The Sims Wiki talk:Administrators

KazeNoYouko is not in the Local list users list, but he is still here. Why is that? - JEA13  [ iTalk  ] 11:29, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I see him if you only tick off bureaucrats. Duskey ( talk ) 23:34, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Inactivity
Why is Kaze not inactive? and in the case of Bleeh I don't think her admin powers should be taken away, since it is a special case. Duskey ( talk ) 21:46, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * And he is not the only one; Random Ranaun has been quite inactive as well, and don't get me started on Bob Newbie is kl. The latter should have his admin priviledges removed instantly. - JEA13  [ iTalk  ] 21:49, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Inactive admins
Should we have a policy for revoking an inactive admin's rights? --a_morris (talk) 00:59, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

no
No,because what if an inactive admin comes back,then the admin whould be shocked.Also,on another wiki there was debate over this policy.--Monster2821 06:35, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Inactive admins could be warned before the policy/revocation goes into effect. Can you give a link to the debate? --a_morris (talk) 14:24, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes
I think an Admin's rights should be revoked after a long absence - I'm not sure exactly how long that would be, but I would say something in excess of 6 months from the last time they made any real contribution to the wiki (so editing a talk page or userpage won't count) - I'm only saying 6 months as a base suggestion. I would also say that if an Admin returns after their rights are revoked, they should be able to receive them back with little or no problem, unless they were absent a really really long time.

On a related note, is there a policy for revoking the rights of a "rogue" admin (let us hope this never happens)? -- Patrick (LostInRiverview) (talk)(blog) 16:04, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * 'rogue' admins can be reported to other admins and they'll take action based on what it's about. Don't think there's a policy, let's handle it when it happens.


 * The downside of having an inactive admin who are still listed, is that users with questions or concerns might try to contact them (despite the 'inactive' tag on the admin page). I would say that if the users hasn't actively participated in any admin activites in 6 months, their right will be revoked. Should they ask for it to be reinstated it should be done so immidiately. This suggestion has a small catch though: How do we define 'active admin participation'?


 * Also, if an admin knows he's gonna either stop playing or knows he isn't gonna feel like contributing, then of course he should step down. 6 months of total inactivity with no contributions should revoke admin rights, with the possibility of instant reinstatement if they return. Duskey ( talk )( blog ) 20:23, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think we should put this to a vote soon since it is an old discussion. I also think that admin rights should be temporarily revoked after 3 months of inactivity. 3 months is a long time and the admin is bound to have alot of reading to do to catch up with changes done while he or she was gone. When the admin returns he/she can get their admin status back by contact a bureaucrat and announcing that they're back for active admin duty. So for The Sims Wiki we could define 'inactive admin' as "no contributions for 3 months". I would personally still allow special cases where the status isn't revoked, but this might be tricky if this is implemented as a policy. If an admins is gone for 2 months, then comes on and does a minor spelling edit, (s)he should still have admin status revoked a month later. Admin revocation (is that a word?) should be up for discussion by bureaucrat and sys-ops alike. Duskey ( talk ) 14:07, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Comments
Would it be an idea for a notice on the admin's user page to new people don't go to them for questions? Something like 'This admin is currently inactive, please direct any questions you may have to an active admin'. Apart from the customized countdown, a page like Bleeh's encourages people to use her talk page. The situation is the same with admins who haven't contributed for awhile. Duskey ( talk ) 16:23, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Proposed inactive admin policy

 * 1) An admin is inactive when they do not make a non-minor (examples of minor edits: fixing spelling, participating in discussions unrelated to The Sims or, editing their userpage) or administrative-related (administrative tasks, not necessarily tasks only admins can do) contribution within three (3) months.
 * 2) Admins should be given a reminder up to a week before their rights are to be revoked. (Current inactive admins will also receive a warning when the policy goes into effect.)
 * 3) A former admin can immediately regain their status by contacting a bureaucrat and declaring their intention to return to active duty if the absence is less than six (6) months. If they are inactive for longer than six months they will have to reapply.
 * 4) If an admin knows they will be inactive they should step down. Special cases to extend or revoke an administratorship may be brought to the attention of current administrators. If an administrator is banned permanently from, their rights are automatically revoked.

Non-minor vs. major: they shouldn't have to write an essay. Since I'll be doing the revoking at first, it would be my preference to do a check once a month or once a week. Are the time periods of 3 & 6 months acceptable? --a_morris (talk) 21:50, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Still thinking about this, but I have a question of clarification: is the six month period mentioned in point 3 a time of 6 months total or is it 6 months in addition to the three months prior to the admin losing their status? -- Patrick (LostInRiverview) (talk)(blog)(random page) 21:58, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was thinking total, hence the use of the word "absence". It depends on how much they have missed in the time they were gone and how quickly they will be able to catch up. --a_morris (talk) 22:05, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I like it. It's a nice write-up. Duskey ( talk ) 22:22, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I like it. As for implementation, if for example an admin has been absent 6 months when this goes into effect, will there be any grace period before their status is revoked, or will it happen immediately? I would propose that admins that have been inactive more than three months prior to enactment be allowed to reapply within that three month window, just as a courtesy. -- Patrick (LostInRiverview) (talk)(blog)(random page) 22:33, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * agreed. --a_morris (talk) 22:59, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd like to suggest a 'previous administrators' list. Just so other admins know and to keep a memento. Duskey ( talk ) 18:12, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Position/Project
Since I don't see any mention of what these actually cover, I'll offer my interpretation of them.


 * Featured Article
 * Changes the featured article on the 1st of every month.
 * Keeps an eye on the voting page to ensure only eligible votes are counted.


 * Featured Media
 * Same as 'Featured Article'


 * Featured Contest (NEW!)
 * Same as 'Featured Article'


 * Polls
 * Runs the bi-monthly poll for featured contests.


 * Templates
 * Keeps the Templates category nice and tidy.
 * Is helpful towards users learning how to create templates.
 * Works together with the Message template standardization project.


 * Policies
 * Articles: The Sims Wiki:Policy
 * Discusses new policies or changes to policies with the community, through the talk page.
 * New policies or policy changes must reflect community needs.


 * Founder: It's the founder, 'nuff said. Purely cosmetic.


 * Community Director
 * Articles: The Sims Wiki:Userboxes, The Sims Wiki:Talkboxes, The Sims Wiki:5000 articles
 * Categories: Category:Userboxes, Category:Talkboxes
 * Develop, coordinate and administer projects and activities for the The Sims Wiki community.
 * Plan and direct any special events and make announcements regarding community activities and updates.
 * Community features include talkboxes and userboxes.


 * IRC contact
 * Article: The Sims Wiki:IRC Channel, MediaWiki:Ircgate-channellist
 * Must be at least somewhat proficient in using IRC and must master the following tasks
 * Kick/ban disruptive users.
 * Add voice to other administrators.
 * Handles communication with Wikia and freenode concerning the channel.


 * Public Relations
 * Categories: Category:Websites and Category:Creators
 * Handles communication with other websites, including related wikis.
 * Add new websites and creators from time to time.
 * Works together with the Affiliates admin.


 * Affiliates
 * Articles: The Sims Wiki:Affiliates
 * Categories: Category:Affiliates
 * Handles communication with The Sims Wiki in other languages.
 * Regularly invites new Sims community sites to be affiliates.
 * Works together with the Public Relations admin.


 * Family trees
 * Categories: Family trees, Category:Premade families
 * Creates new family trees for new premades families in new game releases.
 * Creates images of family trees are to be licensed under the CC-BY-SA license.


 * Newsletter
 * Creates a newsletter every now and then (monthly?).
 * Takes submissions about what's been going on around the Wiki from all users.
 * Submissions can include, but are not limited to; new templates, new game releases, new wiki feaures, new wiki pages, new user created competitions etc.


 * Forum moderator: Along with other admin duties, they will be specifically responsible for the forums. They will be expected to view and create threads and posts, and move, delete or edit users posts that violate the policies of The Sims Wiki and its forum.


 * Ombudsman: Investigate complaints and mediate fair solutions between users.

Comments
If we do get a newsletter in the future, I suggest posting it monthly or so on the 15th, so it won't coincide with the featured stuff, but let's cross that bridge when we get it to. Duskey ( talk ) 17:15, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

I suggest merging the three 'Featured' positions into one and call it 'Featured... Stuff' or something. Unless I'm horribly mistaken, the tasks are minimal and can easily be merged together as one position. Duskey ( talk ) 17:15, July 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't mind working on some sort of newsletter, but I think TheDataMonster was or is already tackling something similar, and I don't want to step on their toes here. -- Patrick (LostInRiverview) (talk)(blog)(random page) 01:59, July 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well TDM hasn't been here for a while. I don't think there's any standing rules for when and how positions are treated if an admin is absent. You have my blesings anyway. Duskey ( talk ) 04:31, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

I added ombudsman and forum moderator. Forgot them first time around. Duskey ( talk ) 04:31, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Another task possibly for the Affiliates admin would be to check interlanguage links on articles and request links with wikis in other languages and when needed. --a_morris (talk) 02:52, August 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * How do you check the links if you don't speak the other languages? :s I already added a bunch of language links to some of the wikis. (See User:Duskey/Inter). The interwiki requests are only for language-wikis which hasn't got it enabled yet, right? Some of the ~10 articles ones don't. I'm not sure if it'll pay off to request it and I'm not sure I can since I'm not sysop or a even a contributor at those wikis. Duskey ( talk ) 04:59, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Where is my Signature,on the admin template?
Where is my signature,on the admin template?--Monster2821 (talk) 04:31, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * You can go ahead and add it yourself :) Duskey ( talk ) 05:19, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

I tried adding it and it's glitched.--Monster2821 (talk) 06:07, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just edit Administrators and add three tildes   at the correct place to add your sig without the date and time. Duskey ( talk ) 04:24, July 31, 2010 (UTC)