User talk:C.Syde65/Archive 3

Re: Talk:Unborn Baby Gorden
Done. -- Icemandeaf (talk) 00:41, October 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * I noticed that afterwards as well. I had to find a way to get to it so that I could remove it. It is done now. -- Icemandeaf (talk) 00:50, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding those Sims
How exactly can you determine that those Sims have corrupted faces? Since they have no character data, I can't really see how one could make that out. Feel free to tell me why and how. :) OoppDecks (talk) 08:52, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Warning for Christiandominicballesteros25
I wanted to let you know that I removed the warning you gave to. While that user's edits were not constructive, they do not appear to be clearly in bad faith, so we should give them the benefit of the doubt. I would recommend issuing level one warnings if they continue to create pages like that or make unconstructive edits, as it seems they are merely inexperienced instead of deliberately harmful. --  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 07:24, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

A note about linking
This is not a critical matter at all, and it hardly even means anything, but I'd just like to point out that there's absolutely no necessity to link every single word you know that has its own page, like in here. To me, it's not only slightly annoying, but also very pointless and irrelevant. Believe me; almost all users who read your messages have already known that Sim, interest, or teenager articles exist in this wiki, and I'm pretty certain no one ever clicked the link anyway (who wants to read about Stuff Packs when we're talking about neighborhood corruption?). Also, why do you keep insisting on using the redirect links, e.g. Sims instead of Sims, skills instead of skills, or power instead of power (aspiration) (it's not even the right link) ? Have you never seen me correcting these little things? Sure it's also a minor thing, but can't you just follow up?

Too many links can confuse someone, especially to those who are not familiar with the wiki. Only give a link to something that's absolutely relevant to the topic, like a link to a different thread in the forum (see, I don't need to link to forum because you know what it is and where to find it), or to a relevant thing (like when I linked "here" to the revision I wanted to point out). Maybe you meant well and wanted to complement everything for easier navigation, but in my opinion it's a sloppy job.

tl;dr: don't overuse links to other pages, especially in pages like Talk and Forum namespaces.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  13:27, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

A notice
I'm sorry to have to do this, but you leave me no other choice. I feel like a formal warning is the only thing that is going to make you understand.

This edit is totally unacceptable. It could be construed as a personal attack against that user, and is a clear demonstration of a lack of good faith, which is precisely what you have been warned about countless times already. You claim to have "mastered" assumption of good faith (as if it's even possible to master something like that), but this and other examples clearly prove to myself and other administrators that you do not understand.

In addition, you have been warned before not to engage in speculation about sockpuppets, especially since you are not an administrator and are not in the position, official or otherwise, to do anything about them even if you discover them. To that end, and in response to the edit cited above, I have removed all references to ILoveSims5 and her suspected sock puppets and behavior from your sandbox page. If you add the information back, or engage in any further actions that demonstrate a lack of good faith, you risk being blocked from the wiki, having your rollback privileges revoked, or other actions as determined by the administrative team.

On behalf of myself and the other administrators, I will say this. We want you to be successful. We want you to learn from your mistakes and to grow as an editor. And if you do those things, you might be ready to become an administrator. But your actions now and in the past have demonstrated that you are unable to keep an open mind about things which you may not fully understand. You engage in behavior that is intended to emulate the perceived behavior of the administrators, yet you do not have a strong concept of why the administrators take the actions we do. You claim to understand the principle of Assume Good Faith, but your actions clearly show that your understanding of that concept is not adequate.

The best piece of advice I can give you is that you should never ever assume that you understand how or why something is the way it is. You should always keep an open mind and consider the possibility that you may be mistaken or that you are not understanding a particular issue or incident. It is the mark of the truly ignorant to assume that he knows everything. Or, to put it another way, "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."

Please open your mind to the possibility that you do not understand. Please allow yourself to learn. You cannot improve if you cannot learn.

--  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 06:47, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * I have tried reasoning with you in gentler tones before and it has invariably failed. If you had simply followed instructions before, I would not have needed to warn you in stricter tones. Like the other administrators, I have only so much patience for repeated errors and a failure to learn. -  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 02:21, October 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * Well you haven't done so this time. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 02:27, October 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * Even I don't like doing this like this, but the thing is we've warned you several times already. On Wikipedia, warnings typically escalate as they are issued. We start off with a very friendly notification template, usually just to poke you and remind you that you did something incorrect. As the warnings go up the scale, they begin to use stricter language and makes it very clear that the behavior must stop, or else consequences will arise. The "Final warning" or "Only warning" templates are very short, straight to the point, and a very stern, no-nonsense tone. Warnings as strict as those are only given after the earlier, less harsh ones are given, where the user was given the opportunity to stop or clarify the situation, or in very extreme cases where earlier warnings are not helpful.


 * Imagine you are a tenant living inside an apartment building. One morning, the landlord posts a notice to every resident reminding them to pay their rent. If you don't pay your rent, the landlord may post a second notice, this time more directed towards you, asking you politely but firmly to pay the rent. If you still don't pay your rent, the landlord may talk to you in person, and he will be very firm and un-moving on the fact that you must pay the rent. And if you still don't pay, he may give you a last warning, and makes it very clear what the consequences are if you don't pay up. And if you still don't pay, they may evict you or do something else as a consequence to you not paying up. In this situation, it's pretty evident that "You should've paid when the landlord asked nicely".


 * Here, we have already warned you very nicely, IMO, about your behavior. The cold, stone-cold truth is, you haven't learned even though you think you may have. You have carried on with the unacceptable behavior, and it is time to escalate. If we continued to talk in 100% Mr. Goody Two Shoes tones without mentioning any possible consequences, you will never learn, because there is no consequence to your actions. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  02:28, October 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * What's that? Feels like I've been given an extremely hard whack with a stick! :P The information has gone from my sandbox and that was my final straw. I've got no straws left and no more interest or patience to continue what you've been requesting me not to do. Time will pass and I won't have repeated what I've been doing. This might sound crazy, but for what may seem like the first time, I'm actually being serious. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 02:35, October 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * This isn't simply about sock puppet hunting. This is about your many previous issues:
 * The problem is that these issues paint a pattern that shows that you are not heeding the warnings you've been given and you are not learning from your mistakes. You can try to claim that you're improving but you need to demonstrate it in your actions. I have no problem with people making mistakes or breaking a rule accidentally - I do it, other administrators do it, other users do it; there's nothing wrong with making a mistake. However, there is something wrong with making the same mistake more than once, with failing to learn from your mistakes. And nothing you say is going to prove that you have learned. There is no list you can make or message you can send that will prove that you have learned. It can only be demonstrated through your actions, and with time. --  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 04:54, October 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * The thing is that normally if I repeat a mistake, the reason for doing so is usually different.


 * The first mistake you mentioned - was because "rollback should only ever be used to revert vandalism and never good faith edits" at the time I didn't realize that the same rules applied in the sandbox.
 * The second mistake you mentioned - was because I wasn't paying very close attention to the fact that my contribution to the talk page wasn't on topic.
 * The third mistake you mentioned - was because I was being careless and didn't realize that the message was relevant to the talk page.
 * The fourth mistake you mentioned - was because I noticed a message that K6ka left on Eminem Fan 007's talk page before he became an admin and before Eminem Fan 007 was blocked. At the time I didn't realize that a non admin wasn't permitted to leave advice on the talk-page of an indefinitely blocked sock-puppet. At the time, it occurred to me that it was the advice that mattered, not the user giving the advice. I'd already given some similar advice to this anon earlier that month and no one had any objection.
 * The fifth mistake you mentioned - was because 1 I didn't see the point of that edit, and I wanted to silently revert it without it appearing in the recent wiki activity screen, because I was hoping that people were less likely to notice that I'd done so. 2 I wanted to revert a mistake that I'd made without it appearing on the recent wiki activity, because I didn't want to admit that it was I that had made the mistake, not the other way around. 3 I reverted a good faith edit by another experienced user, because the edit removed valuable and valid information from the wiki, whilst adding valuable and valid information.
 * The sixth mistake you mentioned - was because I didn't understand that it wasn't possible to lock the talk page to rollbackers and up only - I thought that the only users that shouldn't participate where the non rollbackers and unregistered users.
 * The seventh mistake you mentioned - was because at that time I was much less observant and wasn't paying much attention. I was in a very unobservant mood that day.
 * The eighth mistake you mentioned - was because I didn't understand that taking pre-cautions risked anti-good faith.
 * The cause for all those mistakes were not all the same. And I've left all those mistakes in the past - the only one I should be concerned about is the one I made two days ago. Most of those mistakes you mentioned were made over a month ago, and I don't think it's necessary to worry about month old mistakes. I would have expected a month to be enough for most people to leave those mistakes behind.
 * I'm happy to take your advice, but it's only been two days since I made the most recent mistake. And I have reminded myself countless times not to repeat any of those mistakes (I hadn't acknowledged the last one until two days ago). I know that shouldn't keep a list saying that I'm improving, but earlier this month I started new tactics and I hopefully I will have changed my patterns in a couple of months time. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 05:48, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

The first mistake you mentioned - was because "rollback should only ever be used to revert vandalism and never good faith edits" at the time I didn't realize that the same rules applied in the sandbox. This is where I must say that some "common sense" should've been used here. Why are you randomly performing rollback on not just an innocent edit, but on a bureaucrat and sysop? Seems pretty foolishly daring, if you ask me. I'm not even sure why the heck you needed to do a rollback there - it was a waste of time, waste of Wikia's server space, and it caused a whole lot of trouble for nothing. On Wikipedia the only time I've ever used rollback in the sandbox (other than to quickly clean up after myself so the next person could play with it) was to revert someone adding links to porn sites. Content like that is one of the few things that are not acceptable in the sandbox and a rollback may be performed.

The second mistake you mentioned - was because I wasn't paying very close attention to the fact that my contribution to the talk page wasn't on topic. The Talkheader template at the top is your good friend and reminder. It reminds you to sign your posts, reminds you to be civil with other users, and reminds you that talk pages aren't for casual chit-chat. We have the forums for that. Want an online coffee shop on The Sims Wiki? The forums are there, sorry they don't serve coffee.

The third mistake you mentioned - was because I was being careless and didn't realize that the message was relevant to the talk page. I just skimmed over the text briefly and it looks relevant. The user was saying that they were going to do something in-game and try to fill in the rest of the page. It's not off-topic. I did tell you on your failed RFA that it's important to be careful of what you do on-wiki. And yet the careless rollback and many of the actions LiR highlighted above occurred after the RFA, after the advice was given to you, which is why we have the impression that you're not listening, especially considering that you've been saying for a long time that you have been improving, yet these things still happen. That's partly why we're... disappointed, right now.

The fourth mistake you mentioned - was because I noticed a message that K6ka left on Eminem Fan 007's talk page before he became an admin and before Eminem Fan 007 was blocked. At the time I didn't realize that a non admin wasn't permitted to leave advice on the talk-page of an indefinitely blocked sock-puppet. At the time, it occurred to me that it was the advice that mattered, not the user giving the advice. I'd already given some similar advice to this anon earlier that month and no one had any objection. The difference is that ILS5 had already been consulted two months prior. They still didn't listen and continued to create sockpuppet accounts, so it became time to revert, block, ignore. No amount of advice is going to get that user to stop, so why waste time doing it anyway?

The fifth mistake you mentioned - was because 1 I didn't see the point of that edit, and I wanted to silently revert it without it appearing in the recent wiki activity screen, because I was hoping that people were less likely to notice that I'd done so. This is what I call severe misuse of the tool, and probably a very poor record to have if you want to apply at RFA again. While rollback doesn't appear in Special:WikiActivity, it does appear in Special:RecentChanges, so trying to be sneaky here gives me a very bad impression on you. It demonstrates, through your actions, that you are not trusted with the tools. Secondly, if you don't see the point of an edit, why did you revert? When in doubt, do not revert. Edit confuses you? Don't revert it.

2 I wanted to revert a mistake that I'd made without it appearing on the recent wiki activity, because I didn't want to admit that it was I that had made the mistake, not the other way around. Um, just so we're clear, 1. That doesn't work, people who use recent changes can clearly see what you have did, and 2. You rollback yourself to quickly correct a mistake you have made, not to try and hide it from the world. People tend to lose trust in you if you try and cover up a mistake, since they get the impression you're trying to be "sneaky". Accept mistakes as a learning point, like such, but then you must learn from them. It's best if you didn't go around saying that you've learned from your mistakes and just remain silent, and let someone else decide. Because that's what I feel is the issue here - you think you've learned but your actions say the opposite.

3 I reverted a good faith edit by another experienced user, because the edit removed valuable and valid information from the wiki, whilst adding valuable and valid information. Um, what? "removed valuable and valid information to add valuable and valid information"? It was even made by an experienced user and in good faith. You know full well that rollback should only be used to revert bad faith edits or to mass-revert malicious edits providing a reason has been provided somewhere if needed. Even Wikia states that "[Rollback should only be used] for reverting vandalism. It should not be used to revert an edit that you merely disagree with."

The sixth mistake you mentioned - was because I didn't understand that it wasn't possible to lock the talk page to rollbackers and up only - I thought that the only users that shouldn't participate where the non rollbackers and unregistered users. I don't want this to hurt anybody, but it simply baffles me that someone would be requesting administrator tools without first reading up on them! Help:Administrator quickly goes through the admin tools, and Help:Page protection goes in depth on page protection. Before requesting sysop tools, users should first read over these pages and familiarize themselves with the tools. Not a very good impression if you try to get admin tools without first reading up on them, as it gives people the impression that you only want adminship to show off power, without even knowing what the tools do.

The seventh mistake you mentioned - was because at that time I was much less observant and wasn't paying much attention. I was in a very unobservant mood that day. Probably not the mood any editor should be when they edit the wiki. If you're going to publicly accuse someone of doing anything, you must be 100% sure. Not 70% sure, not 80% sure, 100% sure. A false accusation may look bad for yourself, but also for the wiki too. Did you know that Wikipedia has an editor stress meter for use on their userpages? It can help measure an editor's stress - if it's high, the meter will display just that and the editor should probably go on a WikiBreak. We don't have a meter like that, but we can do without one just by looking at your actions.

The eighth mistake you mentioned - was because I didn't understand that taking pre-cautions risked anti-good faith. Then, may I please direct to a Wikipedia user by the name MusikAnimal. He's an administrator now, but 4 years ago, someone's "precautions" almost drove him off the project, as he was falsely accused of sockpuppetry. Fortunately, he was resilient and put his faith in the project, but had it been another user Wikipedia might be short of one great editor. Precautions may seem important, but on a wiki it can potentially ruin us.

Now I know you're going to say "But I've learned and they're from the past". Please, just stop saying that! It won't help you in the slightest. As I've said before, your actions speak louder than words. You'll be more convincing in your actions than in your words. Please, may I suggest you go take some time off your day and off the wiki, carefully read through what we've given you, reflect slowly on the information, and then maybe read a Wikipedia essay, especially those about civility. These essays have been written by many experienced Wikipedia editors, and while The Sims Wiki is not Wikipedia, quite a bit of the advice there may be helpful here too.

I'm going to leave you with one final note:

What's that? Feels like I've been given an extremely hard whack with a stick! :P The information has gone from my sandbox and that was my final straw. I've got no straws left and no more interest or patience to continue what you've been requesting me not to do. Time will pass and I won't have repeated what I've been doing. This might sound crazy, but for what may seem like the first time, I'm actually being serious. If you're out of straws and ready to blow your top, a wiki is the worst place you can be on. Edit while you are at your best, not while angry, scared, or intoxicated.. If you are stressed out and not at your best, don't go on the wiki. Heck, probably best if you stayed away from your social media accounts too. A user that blows their top, loses patience, or is inattentive is better off in yoga class or in a sauna, rather than venting their anger out on a website where everything is permanently stored. Once you've cleared your mind of anger and stress, then you can sit down, focus on the text, and read our advice very carefully. You won't be able to do that with anger or stress, lest you cause disruption and public embarrassment, and providing your keyboard hasn't already absorbed it all helplessly until it looks like Mike Tyson gave it a smash.

I know this is a lot to take in, but while you might think you're on your last straw, we are on our last too. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  12:30, October 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * Before I stop saying anything else I just want to say this - I know that I often overestimate my experience, but some people actually do underestimate it, I can't say this about anyone in particular - and possibly not anyone here - but people have been known to underestimate my experience in the past, and when I'm like this, I can't tell the difference between truth and real underestimating. It's not so hard to understand, while not under stress, but this is about actually proving that I understand.


 * Okay, I will seriously consider what you and the others have said. Once my stress meter has gone down. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 22:04, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Could you please come to the chat? I'm from SimsPedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Owen1998 (talk) 09:44 25 October 2014 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

RE: Your information on your Sandbox
Alright, I will remove this information from my sandbox. It honestly never occurred to me that this practice is generally not acceptable. If you used me as a reference then I apologize for getting you into the trouble, even though I never meant for anyone to follow me. My intention was not only to patrol any potential sockpuppets, but also to record which sockpuppet belonged to which original user, so you clearly weren't supposed to follow me in the first place because you shouldn't be involved in this sockpuppetry problems.

I dislike your tone when informing me this. Your compliance is understandable but your tone to me sounds more like an accusation of me being an incompetent administrator. Sure, I'm an admin, but I'm also a human who can make mistakes too. Becoming an admin doesn't automatically make everything you do right. I understand LiR's reasoning behind this; I just never thought that way. Even without you telling me, I'd probably remove it as soon as I notice that. It seems even after you were being told by LiR, you still cannot understand the concept of being an administrator.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  10:09, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid you misunderstood my warning to you, and in the process, essentially accused Nikel of violating good faith. He didn't, you did. Your violation was when you added information about an unconfirmed, unsuspected "sock" to your list of socks. Your sockpuppet investigation list as a whole was not a violation of AGF. But, you have been told time and time again to not get involved in sockpuppet investigations, and ILS5 ones in particular. As a result, I felt it necessary and proper to remove that information from your sandbox. You will no doubt realize that I never asked nor did I expect Nikel to also remove his list. This is because Nikel is an administrator and you are not. Nikel keeps a list of sockpuppets and their behavior in order to aid in further investigations. But since you are not an administrator, you are not allowed to participate in these investigations. Since you are not allowed to participate, you are not allowed to keep a list of suspected socks. Nikel is. It's that simple. --  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 16:58, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

IRC
Jump onto the IRC channel when you get the chance. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 18:13, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

When you've got a second...
I'd really like to speak to you on IRC. If you don't get the chance to go on today, then that is okay. Just let me know when you're available to chat ~ thanks! Beds (talk - blog ) 21:00, October 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's alright - I understand. When you do get access, let me know so we can arrange something. Beds (talk - <font color="#512d17">blog ) 21:38, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Reverting edits
Would you mind explaining to me why you did this? I can't see anything wrong, and, more to the point, it looks as if valid information was being added.
 * Fair enough. I don't really see how that can be mistaken as bad faith myself but whatever, and even if you did have an issue it would have been more appropriate to edit it or ask for a second opinion. Please be more careful next time.


 * I have been watching the anon edit for the past day or so and I know for sure they aren't editing in bad faith. Also, with this edit the anon removed the "programming can be a real pain in the ***", and even I don't need my enhanced diff viewer tool to know that they're removing it, not adding it. Secondly, they had edited the table underneath and that was not in bad faith.


 * Once again, I feel you're reaching for the rollback link a little too quickly. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  12:08, November 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'd done the same thing with another anon here. Except that that time it was pretty obvious that they were acting in bad faith, whereas with this anon, I guess I was a little too quick to distrust them. And in doing so I didn't notice the added table underneath. Okay that's one mistake that I've made in - fifteen days? I remember when I used to make mistakes every second or third day.


 * Note to self - try and get through more than fifteen days without making a mistake like that. And work harder to not let my care down. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 09:51, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Which Sim are you game
I did see your guesses! Kaiko Mikkusu (talk) 13:16, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Trouble
Yeah, I've just noticed that. I might delete the page and we'll let them know again that fan-created Sims stay in the fanon namespace! ~ Waikikamukow  ( Anyone wanna chat? )  03:39, December 9, 2014 (UTC)

Removing red links on talk pages
There is no need to remove red links from talk pages. That's simply unnecessary, and only pings the target user (and annoys them as well). Red links should be removed from articles, but for discussion pages it really doesn't matter. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  11:38, December 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay! :) --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 23:36, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

Starting a fanon
Hey, C.Syde,

It's been a few months since I last talked to you. Anyways, I want to start a fanon like you did. It's probably going to be tough, but it's worth a shot. I'm just going to do Strangetown and La Fiesta Tech for my fanon because it is like the easiest town for me to do it with. What I wanted to ask you was can you give me any advice or any tips for me to help me out with my fanon? Thanks. Coastercam7788 (talk) 11:04, December 17, 2014 (UTC)

Userboxes for other users
I think it's best if you refrain from adding userboxes to another user's user page, since that seems too bureaucratic. It's up to the user to decide whether they want that userbox on their userpage or not. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  02:57, December 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * The user in question had that user-box on his user-page, but ThePeculiarMe removed it since he wasn't a rollback at the time. Now that OoppDecks is a rollback, it seems permissible to re-add the user-box to the his user-page, since he was the one who originally put it there.


 * I would not have added the user-box to his user-page if he had not done so first. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 03:04, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Me on YouTube
You recently uploaded lots of your old gameplay videos that correspond to your fanon. Will you be creating any new higher-quality ones for 2014/2015? Not necessarily machinima, but also gameplay videos in high resolution? Aldo Hyde  09:19, December 21, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for leaving a comment on my fanon Gabriella Capp and I was going to right a thank you message yesterday but I was sick in bed with the fever and happy christmas eve! —Preceding unsigned comment added by EPICMINECRAFTER101 (talk • contribs) 18:20, December 24, 2014 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

Merry Christmas!

 * Wow thanks! K6kaBOT. And merry Christmas to your master! :) --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 00:34, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

Your warning to DarkSuicune2000
As far as I can see, DarkSuicune2000's edit on your fanon meant no harm at all. Since The Sims series as well as this wiki has generally used the term "WooHoo" as an euphemism than explicit "sex," I can understand if he thought he wanted to correct the word to match the wiki's style. Of course, you as the author have the right to keep it that way, but the warning you left on his talk page is unnecessary and subtly discourages a person to do a minor "fix" on someone else's fanon—which I think isn't wrong. Even the warning message states that "minor changes are acceptable," so even if you think that edit shouldn't be made, that doesn't warrant a warning at all. A friendly reminder would suffice.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  06:46, January 4, 2015 (UTC)


 * I know that his edit was in good faith, but at the same time I felt that he should have asked first. Typo fixing without asking is understandable but yeah, I'll give a friendly reminder next time, should it happen again. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 06:49, January 4, 2015 (UTC)


 * I've sometimes been scolded for using template messages on Wikipedia, and one thing I did learn is that a templated message exists for convenience. If the change is controversial, or of the user is a regular, a hand-written notice is preferred over a template one. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  12:46, January 4, 2015 (UTC)


 * That's alright. I'm just learning this myself. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 18:25, January 4, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Fanon:Darren Dreamer
Done. And yeah, Wikia's publishing screen seems to be messed up today. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  19:25, January 4, 2015 (UTC)

Bella Goth vs Stella Roth
Wonder if you've come across this short story (by Strange Tomato) on this Bella vs Stella topic:

http://strange-tomato.livejournal.com/248095.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by AldoHyde (talk • contribs) 09:39, January 5, 2015‎ (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

Many Sims screenshot storytellers tend to stay close to the canon, so using ST Bella is consistent with this practice. I don't feel the need to emphasize every canonical fact to the same extent. For example: (1) STM Vidcund seems to have completely gotten over Circe; (2) Pascal & Nervous/Nick do not have the high relationship score like in the canon; (3) I used PV Bella instead of ST Bella; (4) I changed the birth order of Bianca and Kent's generation.

Wonder if you've tried writing short sims screenshot stories like the Bella vs Stella anecdote. Aldo Hyde  11:57, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

- I was referring more to "storytelling screenshots", which are taken as a result of a pre-planned storyline, instead of "gameplay screenshots", which are of organic gameplay. Similarly, machinima is made up of "storytelling video clips" instead of "gameplay video clips" (more like "Let's Play"). Simmers are more likely to own "gameplay screenshots" than "storytelling screenshots", and can choose whether they wish to share their gameplay screenshots.

I was wondering if you are interested in writing stories about your characters, both premade and CAS, and presenting them in "storytelling mode", as opposed to "gameplay mode". Characters are more likely to transcend gameplay limitations and come alive in "storytelling mode". But only do this if you find it fun.

The "Bella vs Stella" story is clearly made from pre-planned "storytelling screenshots". More simmers do these than machinima, because it is much easier. Aldo Hyde  12:08, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

The Sims Wiki:Battles/Battle 108
AGF isn't really an argument from what I see. In this case, this is a security issue -- if the IP is simply pretending to be the user in question, we can't take the chance and let them go. Since the information on which IP address made this edit and such is confidential, we can't actually prove that this IP is the user in question. The safest bet would be to just leave it alone and ignore it, especially considering it is very pointless at this point. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  03:12, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

Part time job
Hi. Sorry about that. I'm new to this thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.172.120 (talk • contribs) 20:10, January 26, 2015 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

Hi. i feel bad for what i did. I thought Teens are only available to do that job that I could put that there. So i say sorry.

173.76.172.120 (talk) 20:27, January 26, 2015 (UTC)Agingsilver4848

Installing packages on Sims 3
do you know how to install packages on sims 3 i dowload some packages on peggyzone and i can't get them in. i follow the instuction what am i doing wrongDarlaDimple468 00:32, January 27, 2015 (UTC)Babydoll468

RE: Sock-puppetry
Thanks for the info! I couldn't keep up with the recent stuff so I was a bit clueless about these sockpuppetry incidents.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  05:52, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

Nomination for administrator
You have been nominated for administrative rights on The Sims Wiki. Please visit the RfA page and respond to the nomination, either by accepting or declining it. Thank you --  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 16:35, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

Valentine's Day and Birthdays
Hello, C.Syde.

I haven't talked to you in a little while, but I want to say Happy Valentine's Day, and also happy birthday to the Sims game series, and the Sims Wiki. Speaking of birthdays, my birthday will be in four days, and I'm real happy about it. Goodbye for now!

Sincerely, CoasterCam Coastercam7788 (talk) 23:18, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

I'm back!
Hey, sorry for going AWOL for a couple of months. I'm back part-time, and I will most likely work exclusively on articles regarding the original Sims. I'm still a rollback, though? OoppDecks (talk) 08:50, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Retirement Protocol
Hello C.Syde.

I am sad to see that you have announced your retirement from the wiki. However, there is a bit of business that we need to conduct.

In accordance with the newly-adopted Retirement Policy, all user rights you hold on The Sims Wiki are immediately and permanently revoked. Additionally, you will be placed on an indefinite block from editing The Sims Wiki, as per the "Forced Retirement Assistance Protocol" of the Retirement Policy. This block may not be appealed.

Please be aware that these actions may be reversed, on the condition that you provide to me the following: link

If you cannot provide those materials, then your retirement through the "Involuntary and Aggressive Dramatic Removal Doctrine" will take place shortly.

Sincerely,

--Commander LostInRiverview

Supreme Overlord, The Sims Wiki

(Worship me here) · (Read my edicts here)

Posted: 07:06, April 1, 2015 (UTC)


 * If it wasn't for my common sense, I would actually have been tricked into thinking that you actually thought my retirement was genuine. And I would have been tricked into believing the new policy prank you posted, except that I would probably already have seen the new policy, or noticed the new policy being enforced, if it were real. And the link you provided me with seems to have no connection whatsoever to what goes on, on this wiki. :) --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 01:06, April 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm still waiting for that $100 billion. --  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 01:25, April 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, good luck with that. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 04:28, April 2, 2015 (UTC)

Fraternity and sorority for Academie Le Tour
Hi there, C.Syde,

I want to make a fraternity and sorority for Academie Le Tour, since it's the only college in The Sims 2: University that doesn't have a fraternity or sorority. Can you tell me an easy way on how to do it? Thanks.

CoasterCam

Coastercam7788 (talk) 23:50, April 2, 2015 (UTC)

Just an FYI...
Just so you're aware, the order of named parameters on a template has absolutely no affect on the functioning of that template. In most cases, the parameters listed on a template's documentation page are given in an arbitrary order. There are few if any circumstances under which it would be important or even useful to rearrange template parameters on an article.

I just thought I'd let you know, so you can save some time when you're editing Sim articles. Rearranging parameters on Sim articles is pointless, as it has absolutely no impact on the function of the Sim/Simbio templates. --  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 03:33, April 8, 2015 (UTC)

Fake Prudence Crumplebottom
I put something about a fake Prudence Crumplebottom on here thing and you got rid of it, how rude i spent my time on that! If you get rid of my good efforts again i will report you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bkajnl (talk) 08:54 20 April 2015 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~


 * I removed your information from the Prudence Crumplebottom page, because it doesn't belong there. The information you added was speculative, unofficial, uncanonical, and thus simply irrelevant. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 08:57, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Fanon development project proposal
Hi C.Syde. I know I already showed this to you over chat, but I wanted you to be aware that I've proposed the Fanon Development Project, and I'm looking for input from active Fanon contributors. If this project is to get off the ground, it'll need editors like you helping it out, so I'd be great to get you involved in its creation and development. -  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 12:36, April 23, 2015 (UTC)

About SimsWikiaBulider1234
I would strongly recommend that you don't try and talk to this user or any of his future socks. Engaging with him or trying to show him reason &mdash; even if you're correct &mdash; will not get him to see the error of his ways. To put it bluntly, he is a lost cause, if for no other reason than the admins here will never ever allow him to return after the complete disrespect he's demonstrated towards our rules. Talking to him, even if you think you're doing it for a good reason, will not have a positive outcome. He himself has said that his "acts are a cry for attention," and by responding to him you give him the attention he craves, and encourage him to keep doing what he is doing. This is the same reason that I've warned you against tracking socks or engaging in sock hunting - it only encourages them. When they see admins or users reacting to what they're doing, they see that they have our attention, and instead of giving up and going away, they keep at it.

Obviously I can't stop you from doing whatever you want to do, but I would suggest that you simply ignore any attempts by this person to communicate with you. Only when his attempts to get attention fail will he finally give up. &mdash;  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 15:30, April 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'll do my best not to engage with Ilovethesims199 or any of his socks, but it's harder on wikis outside the Sims wiki, because I'm not as well known, and also on wikis where I'm not an administrator. On wikis where I am an administrator, it's pretty straightforward. All I have to do is to revert, block, ignore. But on wikis such as the community central, I can't tell whether his attempts to frame innocent users will be successful or not, and because I'm not in the position to directly stop him from doing what he's trying to do. Also I feel that if I don't say anything, I won't be there to step in and explain that actually he's the one that's causing the issues. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 00:28, April 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * No, you don't need to be an administrator to ignore a user. If they contact you, ignore it. If they threaten you or start making false accusations, contact Staff directly. Staff are not going to act without looking at the facts, and they won't take the word of a chronic troll over a user that has edited Wikia for years. You should never respond to a troll's demands for attention or a troll's threats publicly, as it encourages them to keep doing it. Leave them alone. Trying to talk to them, or reason with them, will do absolutely no good. All it does is feed the trolls, and that's not acceptable. Knowing how to handle trolls is an important part of being a good administrator, and I can say that the way you've been handling them is not good. -  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 17:05, April 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll stop responding to them. I just didn't feel fully reassured until now. And I'd already requested wikia staff to remove those messages from my message wall hours ago. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 20:20, April 27, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry
I'm so sorry about what I caused at Sims Fanon Stories wiki - I had no right to block u but before u deleted your page I promoted u to admin and I don't want to be your enemy: U are a smart person who definitely deserves to be admin, so maybe we can be friends again because that would be great? :) EPICMINECRAFTER101 (talk) 02:04, April 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * My response was not directed at you, since you weren't the user that blocked me in the first place, although I was hoping to attract your attention, which I had done. I think it's best if we just forget this happened and move on.
 * If you wanted to leave me a message, you should have done it at the Sims Fanon Stories wiki, because that's where the incident took place. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 03:47, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

Hi...
Let's go to the C.Syde...and build a sandcastle...and eat ice cream...at the C.Syde! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.120.146.156 (talk • contribs) 21:56, April 28, 2015 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

Fanons
YOU HAVE AWESOME FANONS. But, do you know if The Sims 2 is functional on Windows 8? Because my friend has it and doesn't want it, and if it is, since it can't run on origin, what do I run it on?

Thanks,

Plumbob Addiction (talk) 22:26, May 11, 2015 (UTC)Plumbob Addiction (Maddox)

I need help
Can you please come on to chat to discuss matters surrounding ILT99? EPICSIMSPLAYER (talk) 21:04, May 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright. In future please don't leave messages here that are not related to this site. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 23:03, May 24, 2015 (UTC)

Warning re. activity with trolls
You have been warned in the past not to interact with trolls, even (and especially on) other wikis. Please stop. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  23:12, May 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * I have addressed this concern in a message I have written here. Now I don't want anyone to take this response the wrong way. But I do want them to understand the sensitivity of it. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 05:31, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

The Dominate Game
Hey C.Syde! Would you be interested in playing the Dominate Game that I created? Please read the rules and such before making up your mind. Thanks! &#8213; The  Tim   Man  (Infinite Histories • Galactic Crucibles • The Sims Wiki • AltHistory • <font color="#006400">Contribs ) 04:51, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Happy birthday!
Thank you for the birthday message! ForeverBritish (talk) 06:02, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

Wiki closed?
Hey C.Syde! I have a question about TheSimsFanonStories wiki. Do you know the reason why it's shut down? Because i have a message but i could not open it because the wiki is closed. Hope you know the reason.

Sims2Player (talk) 11:10, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

Moved fanon pages
Hey C.Syde, I moved two of your fanon pages, to Fanon:Bella Goth (Pleasantview) (C.Syde) and Fanon:Bella Goth (Strangetown) (C.Syde). I left the redirects intact for now. Please check to make sure that none of your other articles link to 'Fanon:Bella Goth (Pleasantview)' or 'Fanon:Bella Goth (Strangetown)', then let me know so I can delete the redirects. Thanks -  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 02:26, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Nice man!
Hey C.Syde65! I noticed that your favourite sport is football. That's really nice because it's my favourite sport too. And do you support a football club? Greetings, Sims2Player (talk) 11:35, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Your use of AW
After some mindless browsing I came across The_Sims_Wiki:Proposed_user_policies, which prohibits the use of bot software to edit without a proper bot account and one that isn't approved by the administrative team. This is largely oversimplified and vague, so I have set up a forum discussion regarding the revamping of the wiki's bot policy. Since you were recently using AWB I thought this might have been of interest to you. Regards, --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  14:33, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

RE: A Sim in Four Corners
You're lucky! Because I have met him in the park with a mission. I will make a screenshot of him and send it to you. Sims2Player (talk) 11:32, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * His voice is more similar to Nervous his voice than Vidcund. Sims2Player (talk) 12:33, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Strange(?) Question about Veronaville
Hello C.Syde65. Because you're a Veronaville expert I have a question. Because it's confusing me for a long time. In my player stories I want Hal Capp to marry Beatrice Monty, but who inherits the last name? Because the Capp family is matrilineal and the Monty family is Patrilinieal. So should it be Hal and Beatrice Monty or Beatrice and Hal Capp? Sims2Player (talk) 09:27, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Hello
Hi I would like to now if you got some photos of the celebrities stars that you get when you are famous. Thank you User:Owen1998

User impersonating you
Hey C.syde. I wanted to make sure you are aware that a user came on The Sims Wiki and claimed to be you. The user in question is. On consultation with K6ka, I have blocked the user indefinitely for attempting to impersonate you. I have also sent a contact to Wikia Staff informing them of the situation so they can hopefully pursue a cross-wiki block. I would suggest that you contact Staff yourself as well, and also make sure that editors and admins on other wikis you're active on are aware of the impostor, so you aren't blocked or affected negatively. --  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 00:07, July 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, can I speak to you on chat if you have time? I'll be online for a little while longer tonight -  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 05:16, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

Carrying on conversation from last night
Hello C.Syde65, I have to speak to you about our conversation from last night on Chat, or on IRC. I am currently on both, and will be available until 12am UK time. If you are unavailable to do so, then please reply to my message on my own talk page so we can arrange a better time. Thank you. ~ Beds  (<font color="#66CDAA">talk - <font color="#66CDAA">blog ) 20:20, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Award
Thank you SO much for the award! That made my day and was totally unexpected! I've been trying my best to contribute to the wiki and to help out as much as possible. I also want to be considered a great editor. I did not expect an award! Thank you so much again! XD  --S*pphir3 St*rdust (talk) 16:47, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
If you're able, can you step onto chat when you get this message? I'll be online for a couple more hours and I'd like to discuss something with you. Thanks. -  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 04:07, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Creating fanons
Still trying to get used to Wikia. I seen on your fanon pages that you linked the sims of their family to their pages. How do I link without having on the Fanon displayed in the link?? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Palinketi (talk) 03:05, August 11 2015 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

Fanon pages
On my Jebidah Toadstool and Grant Toadstool pages it shows red links even though i made the page, and it's not spelled wrong either, could you help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DarkSuicune2000 (talk) 11:53, August 17 2015 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

Comment on my fanon
Hello C.Syde65, I changed the tone of my comment, because it isn't very nice to say shut up. But when your hard work gets a stupid reaction like that, you would be a little bit pissed off, right? I'm not very proud of it myself, because I'm a good and friendly user, but that is just one of my fatal flaws. By the way, I apologize if you think I was going to far. Sims   Player  (talk) (mistakes) 13:41, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * I understand. Still I think a response on my part was necessary, even though I agree that it was Dark Suicune's comment that was the main cause of the issue. But I won't blame either of you for this, since it's something that we can just leave behind in the past. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 03:55, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much! An award for you!
Hello C.Syde, I want to thank you for all the great time we had on chat and other Wiki's. You really somehow mentored me and told me which things are good and which things are wrong. I want to thank you so much! Here is an award for you! :D Sims    Player  (talk) (mistakes) 15:35, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

Marion Pearson
This is her close up. Sims   Player  (talk) (mistakes) 11:44, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

Hey
I left you a message in Disney Wiki.--AlexHoskins (talk) 20:49, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Let me know you receive it. (◕‿◕) --AlexHoskins (talk) 21:37, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Kaylinn Langerak
Kaylinn Langerak having been played less and thus being younger in TS2, is as much as a player theory as her being younger because she drank the elixir of life. (Even though I consider the four games as distinct, separate yet similiar "dimensions", due to all the four games being on different engines and the recurring sims looking different. The fourth game is even more obviously alternate since Nighat's first name is actually Katrina, but they're the same sim, same appearance and same family, but diff. universe and personality. Kinda like how the unborn babies always have different names in each new version of an 'hood you make. My next Sunset Valley is gonna have a "Kaylinn Sr. and Jr." plotline based on SevenSkellington's "Fortune & Romance" one.) Kaiko Mikkusu (talk) 07:42, September 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * But still, as she's a NPC and may remain unplayed in TS2, she can be an Adult for like, 10 generations of a legacy family or something. Kaiko Mikkusu (talk) 08:30, September 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it would be too meta, so we stick with in-game methods such as the Elixir of Life or Ambrosia\Life Fruit. Kaiko Mikkusu (talk) 08:35, September 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah a lot of things could have happened from the year TS3 is set. Even stuff which would cause the TS2  Kaylinn Langerak to not be the TS3 one, but another sim who happens to have the same name and may  not even be a relative. But they have the same page since they're clearly based on each other. Even  though I don't really think she has to be the TS2 Kaylinn, same for the Riverwiew Skip Broke. He does'nt  have to be the exact same person as the TS2 Skip. Not every TS3 simmer plays or even keeps the  premades. Kaiko Mikkusu (talk) 16:48, September 3, 2015 (UTC)