User talk:Анонымоус Лонер

Welcome! :)
Welcome to my official Talk Page, here on The Sims Wiki. :) I hope you please do follow the rules - yes there are rules - here on my Talk Page and I as well wish all of said people visitng my Talk Page to have fun. ;) I'm only a veery minor user, who barely contributes to this Wiki, so there's no use coming here to comment on serious issues, not to mention that I'm not an Administrator. Remember to sign your posts with 4 tildes, so I know who's talking to me!

New, on my Talk Page

 * Just to let y'all peeps know, this is where I post about whatever **** is new on my Talk Page. But that must've been pretty hard to figure out, no? *sarcasm* Анонымоус Лонер (talk) 23:08, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Cleaned up my Talk Page. Added "New, on my Talk Page" content section, cleaned up "Random Talk Thingy Section", and did other things to help out my Talk Page that no one goes on. Анонымоус Лонер (talk) 23:08, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * In addition to the above, I added a "Rants, rambles, topics, etc." content section. Анонымоус Лонер (talk) 23:08, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Rants, rambles, topics, etc.

 * Under this heading is where I post...well rants, rambles, topics in general, et cetera. Feel free to comment under said topics. ;) Анонымоус Лонер (talk) 23:08, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Rules:Edit

 * If anyone, which no one will, comes here on my talk page, please leave Random comments under this heading. *awesome face* Анонымоус Лонер (talk) 23:08, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Any other comments which are meant to be replies to what I, or others, have written should go under said specified heading. Gotz it? Good 4 u if u did. ;) Анонымоус Лонер (talk) 23:08, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you're wanting to post a specific topic and if it's really important/you want it to be very noticeable instead of said comment being a mere comment on the RTST (Rand Talk Section Thingy) go ahead and create a new heading here and post under it. ;) Анонымоус Лонер (talk) 23:08, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Banned from Chat
Due to your unacceptable behavior in Chat, you have been GG  • iTalk  • iEdit  22:51, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Attacking other users is not cool and considering this isn't the first time you've been caught red handed (read: ignoring a request to stop posting a commentary about Star Wars and ignoring a request the other day to stop speaking Russian), this is grounds for a ban. 22:51, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * a) This is an English wiki, therefore we speak English here. You were told by another admin several times to stop it but you ignored that request, hence your first kick from the other day.
 * b) Firstly, that was related to your comment towards Xd, where you implied he was in the first grade due to his clearly understandable grammar and such a comment can be taken to heart and can be seen as offensive - you were given a warning for that. You then used another grammar insult on DanPin, which, stacked with your other offenses, led to your ban.
 * c) See my reasoning for a).
 * d) This isn't about me, this is about your general behaviour in Chat. All of this could have been avoided easily. Maybe when your ban is up, you can prove that you've learned from your mistakes. Also I've discussed this with several other users, one being a chat moderator, and they all agreed with the ban. You're welcome to return once your ban is up (it's just for a day) but please take this into consideration. And if you have a problem with how I applied the ban and used my admin tools then bring it up in a desysop forum or whatever, if the community decides I'm a bad admin then so be it but you're the one in the wrong mate. 23:06, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * I was not present during these events and I have no opinion for or against your temporary ban from chat. However, I do suggest for your own sake that you stop contesting this block. If you disagree with the reasons for the block, I suggest that you start a discussion about it in the Forums. If it's a matter of you being 'punished' for nonexistent policy or for an unfair application of policy, a forum post can straighten that out. Complaining about the block you received won't do that. Complaining about it won't get you un-blocked either, because it shows that you haven't learned your lesson; whether or not the lesson is valid is irrelevant since it's such a short block.
 * To sum it up, I suggest that you sit the block, think about your actions and whether or not they might constitute a rules breakage, and come back when your block expires and follow the rules. Again, if you think a block was applied unfairly, the place to remedy that is in the forums, by addressing issues with our policies.
 * If you have any questions about this, you are more than welcome to contact me. --  LiR speak ~ read 00:08, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll try to address your questions/issues as best I can.
 * A - I tend to watch Special:Recentchanges, as it shows everything that happens on the wiki. When I saw a lot of edits to your and GG's talk pages, as well as a log of your chat ban, I figured I'd look into it. Admins don't see everything, but Recent Changes does show quite a bit of stuff.
 * B - Unfortunately this issue is a bit complex. First off, I don't know who it was that talked to GG about you, but if I did I wouldn't necessarily tell you. They may want to remain anonymous and unless it was clear you wouldn't attack them it would be bad revealing who they were. I don't think you would attack them for that but at the same time, your opinion of the user would be hurt, so all-in-all I would side with keeping it private unless that user chooses to reveal it. That said, since GG does know who that user is, he may feel more or less inclined to reveal it than I would. I do to an extent understand the idea of being able to 'face your accuser' so I think overall this issue is complex.
 * C - I would have to agree with you on that, to an extent. If you were speaking in nothing but a foreign language, I think it would be called for since this is an English wiki and there are likely people who won't understand the language you're speaking. If what you said in a foreign language violated policy - say you were attacking someone, swearing, etc - then I could understand it not being tolerated. I think the real issue is that when you use a foreign language, moderators don't necessarily know what you're saying, so you could very well be breaking the rules and we'd be none the wiser. But I tend to think if you want to use a different language within reason it shouldn't be a problem.
 * D - I've had my disagreements with GG in the past (as any longer-term admin can tell you) but if he says he didn't mean it as an insult, I would take him at his word. If it upset you that badly, though, you could succinctly explain your opinion then politely ask for an apology. It might be that he was simply getting fed up with the situation and reacted, which wouldn't be a response unique to him.
 * Sorry about being so slow to respond, by the way. I had a tab open and had this response halfway typed but forgot to finish it. --  LiR speak ~ read 06:01, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Okay...
This is the last thing I am going to say on this matter, so read carefully. Having read over everything, including the development of this situation that took place when RL was a priority, all I can say is that you are blowing things out of proportion and despite claiming you're sorry, I'm not convinced you've learned your lesson and had you learned your lesson, you would have just accepted why you were banned and you wouldn't have made a scene like you did.

I'll explain clearly: if you're told to stop doing something by an administrator or a moderator then it's in your best interests to do so. The other day you were told to not speak Russian multiple times and you continued to ignore this request.

The same case scenario is employed for the Star Wars commentary too. You were asked to stop, you didn't, so that's another offense.

Finally, you made comments towards two users which, while they may have been intended as a joke, could be taken, and unfortunately were, to heart as an attack. All these things stacked together led to your 1 day ban. If you had realised these points in the first place, all this drama could have been avoided.

Once again, I apologize if anything I may have said had upset you and it definitely was not my intent to upset anybody, including you. I only did what any other administrator would have done and had a different user been in your position, they would have been dealt with in the same manner.

That said, I'm not going to extend your ban as it is unfair and you are more than welcome to rejoin Chat once the ban is up but I would like you to consider what has happened here and be more careful with how you act in Chat. Going on and on like this is detrimental and won't lead us anywhere.

I hope that's cleared a few things up and I hope we can put all of this behind us and move on. 17:33, November 26, 2012 (UTC)