User talk:Random Ranaun

Another Question
hi, i just found a way to beat the "cant order omniplant seeds on the mailbox" glitch without any cheat used. i found it accidentally but its work for me. can you help me where should i put it? Wir.wiryawan 17:03, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Hi there!

I was just wondering where you got your user picture from. If you could tell me, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Wogan Hemlock - The Dark Sage 04:09, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Random Ranaun!

I hope this is the right section. Are you still accepting entries for The Sims Fanon Wiki Logo contest? I was thinking of submitting another, despite the amount of votes I got. I was rushing it and didn't take a lot of time on it. I noticed it was said that late entries may be counted.

Thanks for your help in the future,

Serena♥Sim 19:27, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you but I'm having a bit of trouble since my newer submissions are deciding to cause a little.. havoc. :) Would you mind helping me, please? Again, I am very sorry to have to ask you but the "None of the above" catagory seems to clash with my entries. By that I mean that the text in there likes to sit beside my entries.

Many apologies for troubling you (I don't want to end up messing up the page),

Serena♥Sim 18:40, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Fanon again

 * It seems like people like the idea of categories we could implement them, do you want any help :)? Thank you. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 17:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Fanon: Peterson Family
Thank you for fixing my page i was trying to get the names verticle but it just wouldn't!

Maxymax123 14:32, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

RE: IRC Channel Problem
No idea. Everyone else has been able to enter the channel fine. Have you tried logging in with NickServ? If you think Chatzilla is a problem, try entering via here. 19:47, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Email
Hello there! I thought I should contact the entire admin team about this, since this is a little bit off-wiki but still, from what I and some contacted admins can see, an idea that could be beneficial for The Sims Wiki.

I am currently in the planning - almost creating - process of making an email account for The Sims Wiki. This account, while not needed extremely, could bring a large amount of positive things for the wiki.

Firstly, this is a smaller The Sims Wiki version of Special:Contact. Through this, we can send surveys to users about new features or ideas we implement. Do the users agree with a makeover of the Community Portal? Do the users want this policy to be added? What ideas do users have for the future?

Secondly, we can use this for more private, though still completely controlled, user reporting. If I see someone being rude to me and don't want to "look stupid" by reporting it to an admin, which some users do think, what do I do? I send an email through, and let an admin read it and check what's been going on. Note: This isn't a "I emailed first!" scenario, every user involved, included the sender, will be investigated.

Thirdly, and this is completely optional for users, they can "subscribe" to the newsletter. This will be where they allow us to send a monthly, if not bi-weekly, email, containing links to active votes and discussions, the Newsletter, open positions, new features, etc.

Now, I still have a lot of ideas on how to use this productively, but another reason I'm contacting all admins is to sort out something. I know that I may not be completely trusted by all of the admins to handle this alone so I am going to ask all admins who wish to join the project to say so on my talk page, and I will send the password to you once the email account is activated. Currently, I prefer as little users managing this account as possible, due to problems that may arise if all admins had access to the same account. I would appreciate only bureaucrats requesting the password if they like, but I still encourage admins to request it if they wish.

Please note that this account will not use my, or any other user's real account password, as that would be pretty dumb to hand out on a silver plate.

I hope you all read this and think about ideas and or reasons to oppose it.

Have a nice day further.

-- Zombie talk • blog 20:18, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

I went there, and you weren't there. - XoTulleMorXo  ( talk and  contributions ) 03:02, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Fanon Wiki
Hey RR,

Just letting you know I put a message on several talkpages of users at fanon wiki, telling them to show opinion on the merge. I still think we need to find another way to do this merge, though, because they are giving no opinion or anything. Anyway, I'll be on the IRC the time I'm always on tomorrow, and if for some reason I don't show you can give me a message if you have any ideas to how we are going to do this thing. I'll tell you if anyone adds their opinion on fanon wiki. -- WoganHemlock (talk) · (blog) 07:51, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hello
Since we haven't talked... how are you ^^? School is almost beginning and I only want to snap my classmate, Miguel Barbosa... --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 21:31, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't worry I'm helping you out. *Miguel Barbosa being killed by me*. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 21:34, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Should I go to IRC? Thank you. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 21:39, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * OK! But do I have the admin IRC rights now, I'm not sure... computing isn't really my expertise :P. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 21:43, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * But do I have to log in in a special way to use my ops? Thank you! --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 21:45, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, but everytime I log in? Thank you! --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 21:50, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Without the "><" right? :p --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 21:54, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm there now, but noone seems to want me there :p. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 21:57, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Beaker family tree.
Hello, how are you ^^?! I think Beaker family's tree could be changed, since Nervous Subject was adopted, I think a note regarding that in the family tree image could be helpful. Thank you! --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 11:56, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Question about family tree pictures
I have posted a question in the Hogan's Deep Fried Diner portion of the Forumns and the question is what program is best to use to create a family tree picture found here on The Sims Wiki and someone said that you do the family tree pictures here on TSW and I would like to know what you use to do the best quality of work? I have home premium of Windows Vista and soon to get Mac Book Air or Mac Book Pro for birthday this year if all things goes well and I can do it on the new Apple products since I am a MacHead. What psoftware do you use and could you teach some one to do it for other sites? Thanks., Sundogs Current wikis' talk page • Wikias' Talk Page • Wikis Managing16:21, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Editor of the Month
You've been chosen as the Editor of the Month! On behalf of The Sims Wiki, thank you for all you do to improve our database and our wiki community! --  LostInRiverview talk · blog 03:34, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Congratulations RR, you really deserve it, keep up your amazing work :D! --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 10:20, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Congrats! :D 10:33, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Family trees
how do you make the family trees? Emeraldisverycool 05:55, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Family Trees have gone too far.....
Excuse me, but I have noticed that you have been posting alot of family trees. Usually this would be a good thing but you are posting family trees and the only thing you have changed about them is putting the family name in the middle, no offence but I really don't see the point in it. CrazyCrazy555 18:23, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

For example:

There are four good examples above. CrazyCrazy555 18:28, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Sarah Peasant
Oh thank you for nominating Sarah Peasant's article. I'm really glad that people like it ^^! --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 21:16, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Simbio-start
Simbio-start misses a category for the sex of fanon sims, and I have tried to add it but it doesn't seem to work, could you do it for me? Thank you! --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 17:47, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * It does work now! Thanks :D! --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 18:00, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Pastor
Why was the Pastor career page i created deleted?

Nomination
Please accept, or deny, your nomination here. And good luck, if you accept :). -- Zombie talk • blog 19:35, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for Bureaucrat
Attention Random Ranaun. BobNewbie has nominated you for a Bureaucrat position. Please go to this section on the Bureaucrat nomination page to accept or decline your nomination. Thanks -  LostInRiverview talk · blog 19:44, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Glitch
It appears that something isn't working for this fanon page since it does have player stories and fanon categories haven't been added yet, and there's actually one mainspace category in the page, what could we do? Thank you. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 14:52, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hi! Harry The Sim 17:11, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, i have an idea if your going to make another Sims battle: Sims 2 Vampires Vs Sims 3 Vampires! Jones143! 03:55, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for voting for me to be a featured author :D, I'm glad of it. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 18:44, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, i want to ask you something as opinion, is Elvira Slayer the God or Queen Vampire? Jones143! 02:13, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

WHICH KIND OF QUEEN?? An Queen who cant be beat by anyone, or the queen that can be beat by someone, i never seen her. Jones143! 02:22, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

List of Memories
Hey, I think your list of memories is really cool. You designed it like list of moodlets. But it's incomplete, however. Do you intend to finish it? I'd like to lend a helping hand if you want to. Anyway, are you going to make it into List of Memories page? Nikel23 16:22, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Read It!
Read Fanon:Being Vampire King And It's Effect see what you think. Jones143! 03:10, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Sim templates
I like the new templates, but I think there are somethings we need to fix, for example, fanon categories were excluded from the template, they should be re-added, also these new templates desformatt the text of an article, such as Dorie Hart, some sentences appear above the template, there is also a strange glitch in the page's end, which is something saying "Obtained from >link of the article<". Also I do not think we should have a thing saying "biography" in all sim templates, it's too much and the caption could be simply below the image, and about also I do not think simbio-starts should have colors. Thank you! --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 16:44, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, I am very sad at this cahnges now, I think they are quite allusive to the game, but there are many aspects missing, we had already so many categories including the economic status and many other things that went missing with this change, also when we add to the template the age of a Sim, they appear in the category "Sims missing their age", I am very disappointed :(, this was a very good idea, but the work done is extremely bad. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 19:11, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Hello, can i do anything special i can do around here?

Hey! can i 500 edits for rollback rights?

Bureaucrat nomination
Your Bureaucrat nomination has concluded, and community consensus was given. You have been promoted to Bureaucrat. Congratulations! --  LostInRiverview talk · blog 15:14, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations! :D
By the time you've read this, I'd of probably told you on IRC anyway! :P Anyways, congrats on becoming a bureaucrat! :D 15:14, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * OMG! Congratulations RR! --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 20:51, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Congrats! I never had a doubt you wouldn't get in! --W H  (Talk) 04:08, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sim templates glitch
When Sim templates appear on namespaces such as "User" they shouldn't have categories, but there's a problem and they show up categories, on example is User:Kiwi tea, is there any way to fix this? Thank you! --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 16:13, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also I think simbio shouldn't be connected (see Flat Broke), the simbios should be located above of the text (only for the cases where there's more than 1 simbio) as it would be more helpful since we would check the templates more easily without being distracted by the text, for example in Flat Broke page simbio3 isn't very well colocated as many people end reading and do not see it since it's located too much on the bottom. What do you think? --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 15:50, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

A repeat offender is vandalizing/blanking articles.
A User that was banned before is vadalizing pages and blanking them. http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:92.235.213.114 That is the user. Can't you guys Perma Ban that user? The Black Scorpion 12:55, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Missing Image
Hey RR, I noticed while I was modifying my profile to use galleries instead of static images that the Sims2_logo.jpg file is missing. Over 100 pages use this file! And yes, I know I'm a workaholic - SoaringDragon 06:04, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Simbio and Pets
Hello :)! Sim templates appear to have the pets section, but Simbios do not as the section doesn't appear in the real article, see Fanon:Marcia Dortheimer who has pet but doesn't show up in the template, could you add it to teh template? Thank you :)! --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 12:32, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Social class in sim and simbio templates
I saw you have not included the social class categories in the Sim templates, as looking by this page Category:Bohemians, do you want to keep it like that? Thank you. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 17:17, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also puting "None" in children section on templates should not include a parents category :p (see Fanon:Irina Bulls). --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 11:10, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Family Tree
Could you please add File:Seamus_O'Bryan.jpg and File:Deidra_O'Bryan.jpg to the King/Greenfield family tree for me? They are Lynn King's parents. Thank you much! --NY22Giants22 06:54, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Welcome back!
Oh yes, that would be lovely. Show me how. Bayoubash 15:20, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Mysterious Mr. Gnome has a flaw
I asked everyone here and on TheSims3.com forums and the forums on the Sims 3 site gave differennt statement than The Sims Wiki article on Mysterious Mr. Gnome. The question was is it a glitch or actual gameplay of having the variations of Mysterious Mr. Gnome being bought? I accidentally know this from actual gameplay in all neighborhoods in The Sims 3 and thought it was strange. Needlesstosay that I asked both parties forums and found it is actual gameplay and it is possible to have Mysterious Mr. Gnome variants be at the consignment store in buy mode. In basic terms, the Mysterious Mr Gnome article is inaccurate when saying it is NOT buyable. BUT, I found out from personal play of the game it is rare enough to find one, but, to purchased four different gnomes at the consignment store is indeed buyable to say at the least. May I be allowed to change the no to yes on all gnomes? Source topic listed here Is this acceptable ofme to do or do you want prove? MrsCrumplebottom 22:27, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Userpage
I love the sticker :P. -- BobNewbie  ∞(Talk)∞  10:55, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

That sticky note change its words all the time! :O Nikel23 08:21, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

The Sims 2 Icon
Hey RR, like you asked on IRC yesterday, I managed to get the desktop icon for The Sims 2, which you can find here. I have added it to the TS2 page but it seems to be a slightly lower resolution than all of the others (I blame GIMP for that :P). Just thought I'd let you know in case you wanted a higher resolution version or whatever. 13:15, June 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * How did both of you get the images and icons? Nikel23 16:00, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Family Tree
Thank you so much! It looks great! But could you also add and ? They're Gary King's parents. I am so sorry that I keep bugging you to add people. I keep forgetting them! I feel like a pest. So don't rush to get this done. Thank you so much for all the stuff you've helped me out with!

--NY22Giants22 05:38, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Era Template
Are you sure this era template isn't Google-Chromeproof or anythingproof? This seems to mess up in my view. Why don't you check it out:



Nikel23 03:25, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Consort Capp
Why below consort capp's thumbnail on the capp family tree image was written "Darren Contrary"? It is supposed to be "Consort capp".

IRC
Hey RR, just thought I should let you know that you're now allowed to return to IRC whenever you wish. Thanks! 18:25, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Era template
The era template is messing up with pages, and now when on pages it shows up "TEmplate without documentation" do you know what's happening, an example page is Kingdom? I don't :(. -- Guilherme Guerreiro ( talk here ) 09:36, July 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've noticed this on every page that uses Era. I've temporarily reverted the template back to the last version on the 2nd of July which didn't cause any category issues but the icon is showing on the top left of the page rather than the top right. If you've found a fix, then your rollback button will come in handy here! :P 16:51, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Random Ranaun,it's SimsWikiFan,sorry it took me so long to respond to you,you know busy,busy!So any way thanks for the message and I look forward to contributing with you too!Have a great summer!P.S.Love the User Pic!

Well talk to you later Bye!SimsWikiFan 23:13, July 5, 2011 (UTC)SimsWikiFan

Bravo Random Ranaun!
Hello Random Ranaun. I'm guessing you don't know me so let me introduce myself. I'm Vss2eip. I wanted to ask you something but first of all congratulations for all of your edits! Now, I wanted to ask you a very common question: Can you become a werewolf (or vampire) in THE SIMS PET STORIES? I'm asking you this because I own it but I never saw them. I would be really thankfull if you could solve this dilema for me. Vss2eip (talk here) 10:09, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Family Tree
Hi. I'm Marvin and I was referred to you by GeorgieGibbons. I wanted to know how to make a Family Tree. Well, more so, it's really a chart showing all the relationships of my Sims in-universe, less a Family Tree. I have made one on my own, but that was done on MS Word. I want to make a real one like the users on here have. Could you help me out?

Also, I don't really know how to even add labels/subjects to these Talk Pages. I just copied and pasted the one above and changed the word. I'm still new to this universe and while very computer savvy, don't know how to actually edit Wikia pages all-the-way. yet. Never done it before and am still learning. So thanks for any help you can pass by.

Template:Urb
Hey RR, I was just wondering why you reverted my edit to the Urb infobox, as that edit removed all of the Urb player stories pages from Special:LonelyPages. Thanks! 11:56, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

IRC
Can you come on the IRC if you get a chance. Thanks. --  LostInRiverview talk · blog 17:04, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Bureaucrat nomination
Thank you for ensuring that I now have 100% control of TSW. I hope everyone enjoys my reign of terror! MWAHAHAHAHAHA! :P jk 22:50, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

This is kind of random
I was reading your user page and I noticed that you didn't have generations in the section with the games you have. If you know how to put your signature in a different font or coulor could you tell me, Thanks.Bellagoth 00:41, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Family Tree Request
Hey RR. If you're not busy, would you be able to make up a family tree for my Hemlock-Lang fanon pages? I've put all the headshots on the articles, sorry but I couldn't manage to find the black background ones, so I had to get white background ones :p Anyways, tell me if you make it (or not :p) on my talk page. Thanks! ~> ฬ ђ  (tคlк ★  ς๏ภtгเ๒ร)  04:11, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Btw, I think that it could be a good idea to make a requests forum like you said. ~> ฬ ђ  (tคlк ★  ς๏ภtгเ๒ร)  08:21, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

List of Memories
Hey RR. Do you mind if your List of Memories be added in the List of Memories page before other users make it more messy? I'm sure they'll be updated right just like List of Moodlets. Can I ask for that permission? :s 08:54, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Missing something
I was conversing with Guilherme about your Awards box and we both agreed it looked way too empty these days. So, you have two choices; the first is to add the following awards...

Stapler - for amazing work in improving the wiki template wise ('You're like Albert Einstein but with templates' xD)

Badge - for amazing, above-par work when the idea of the Fanon namespace was introduced, and even more excellence shining through in the creation of policies, templates, etc, for the namespace.

Camera - for your awesome family trees (which I know you spend a lot of time on perfecting and maintaining and respect you greatly for).

...or you can leave your Awards box to starve and I'll be forced to call the Awardbox Welfare Organization :P. Enjoy! -- BobNewbie  ๑ (Talk)๑  19:29, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, we agreed you deserved them. Congratulations =D! -- Guilherme Guerreiro [[File:Thanks rose.png]] ( talk here ) 19:33, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Renaming account
Hi there ^_^! I wanted to inform you that I'm moving my account, via Special:Contact, Guilherme Guerreiro to RoseGui, I'm letting you know so that you can recognize me in the future. Thank you! -- Guilherme Guerreiro ( talk here )  17:33, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Happy birthday!
I hope you enjoy it and have a good year further :)! -- BobNewbie  ๑ (Talk)๑  09:26, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Happy birthday, RR! ^_^ I hope you enjoy this special day! -- RoseGui [[File:Thanks rose.png]] ( talk here ) 09:27, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Happy birthday! Have a nice day and... what they said. xD DanPin  ( Talk ) 09:52, August 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Happy birthday RR! Hope you get a lot of gifts! Have a nice day! Best wishes,  El cobaya talk here   10:04, August 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Happy Birthday!  ♦♦♦OnlyPlayTheSimsGames♦♦♦   17:03, August 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, and don't worry about the next Battle. I updated it today so you can enjoy your entire day :). -- BobNewbie  ๑ (Talk)๑  17:10, August 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * U HAD A BIRTHDAY? Y U NO TELL ME!? Happy birthday, RandomRanaun! :D Bayoubash 20:24, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Something
RandomRanaun, got that picture that you wanted from me but I couldn't provide it since I was lazy, busy, and got no The Sims 1 on my PC no more? Well I got The Sims 1, Complete Collectioon...*jumps in joy and squeals gaily* but I haven't installed it yet because Windows 7 is being a really really big...female dog...and I'm waiting for a laptop...someone's laptop...one day or another....so I can play The Sims 2 while playing The Sims, therefore adding the possibility of me recreating lots and shiz. Can't wait for that. But...I have to. Bayoubash 20:41, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hey RR. I'm retiring from administrating and the wiki, but I didn't want to leave without saying a good good-bye.

I am so glad that you were made a bureaucrat, because you really deserved it. It's a testament to how much more mature you are now than even just a few months ago (keep in mind, I wouldn't refer to you as immature before), and much more capable of being a wiki leader. Through and through, you've shown a dedication to this wiki that has outlasted almost everyone else, and the fact that you're still here shows just how passionate you are about the games and about this project. The work you've put into redesigning pages or templates just reinforces that observation, and makes me confident that you'll be helping this wiki grow and improve for some time to come.

Good luck! --  LostInRiverview talk · blog 04:57, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

IRC
WHY DID YOU BOOTED ME FROM IRC? Chong-chang-chun 21:19, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

The Era Template
Hi RR! How are you? If you have time, could you update the Era template for The Sims 3 Town Life Stuff and The Sims 3 Pets EP, now that we have the icons? Thanks! ;)  Vss2eip talk here   10:45, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Alto family tree
hi RR, i want to tell you that the alto family is need to be updated with Bert Alto. here is the old picture:



thank you :) --Wir.wiryawan 12:46, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, and Bert Alto is the brother of Nick Alto. ^_^ Thank you. -- RoseGui [[File:Thanks rose.png]] ( talk here ) 13:09, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Lifetime Benefit Image
RR, where did you get this image!? Is it true you extracted it from objects.package?  Nikel  Talk  13:08, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Chemistry Check
I've checked the Turn Ons and Turn Offs of several Sims, and you're right. I changed some of them. I checked the original via SimPE. So far, I checked Trent Traveller's Turn Ons are Fitness & Swimwear, Turn Off is Fatness. Matthew Picaso's Turn Ons are Fitness & Hardworker, Turn Off is Zombiism. Tiffany Zarubin's Turn Ons are Makeup & Black Hair, Turn Off is Formal. Naenae Philippine's Turn Ons are Unemployed & Makeup, Turn Off is Underwear. Jihoon Hsu's Turn Ons are Athletic & Good at Cleaning, Turn Off is Black Hair.

Or you can just see me in the IRC please :)  Nikel  Talk  14:35, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

SimBio
RR, can you fix your Sim2 template for Zodiac sign section? The Gemini image for Mary-Sue Pleasant is too big, compared to Mickey Smith's  Nikel  Talk  13:20, October 24, 2011 (UTC)