Category talk:Candidates for deletion

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Alice and Kev
This is considerably a player fanon, created before we had the moderation about fanons. This page was discussed before, but ended with no result anyway. I don't think we should keep it...  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  09:35, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * This is a unique circumstance, to be sure. Fanon articles, however, are really only intended to be created by the person who plays the fanon. If the creator of this series had created the fanon articles, it would be a completely different story. Since they did not, I believe this falls under 'pages about player-created content', which is specifically prohibited in TSW:NP. I say delete. --  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 19:28, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe that it is a bit different from a player fanon, as the author didn't write it here. Instead, it was written on another site and is known well enough to have its own article here. As well, it is not a fanon article - it is an article which talks about the story. In the policies for notability, would this fall under bullet 2 of prohibited content, or is it simply not addressed? Edit: I have began to read the story, and it almost doesn't seem like a fanon. It recounts events in the game, and the author doesn't treat the Sims as if they're people but simply game objects (if that makes sense). As the story is following the 'Homeless Challenge,' perhaps an article could be created on this and this story could be referenced? Or even a larger article on challenges or something, though that is a different conversation that's not meant for here. -- Bleeh (talk) (blog) 12:59, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Please, please don't delete this page. Poverty and Homelessness are subjects that should not be ignored in in the world of The Sims 3. The idea, by roburky to created Alice and Kev was one of unique genius. A story such as this, especially now, during the current state of world affairs should not be put on the back burner, or ignored. We actually need to do MORE stories like this one. So many talented Simmers have spent countless hours creating stories, movies and more, with incredibly sad themes, such as Sims suffering and dying of Cancer and other ailments, Sims who are neglected, desperately lonely, and abused. Are these subjects any less important than that of abject Poverty and Homelessness? I think not! And, I've read many, many Legacies, that follow a single Sim with extremely limited funds, as he or she finds employment, and begins to better their situation. I've seen them fall in love, marry, and begin to raise future generations, which also become part of that early legacy. Why is Alice & Kev's tale so different? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.95.214 (talk • contribs) 06:56, May 1, 2013 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~


 * 67.171.95.214, I took the liberty of editing out your lengthy description of the Alice and Kev story. (Anyone who wants to read it can access the history.) The issue here is not the nature or subject matter of the story, but whether an article about it meets our notability policy for inclusion in the mainspace. Quoting the policy, "This wiki is first and foremost about The Sims games themselves." While we have a Fanon: namespace, the mainspace is primarily intended to be a reference about the games and the series. It is not intended to be about what people do with the games, however meritorious that might be. So, the question, at least in my mind, is why Alice & Kev's tale is so different that an article about it should be allowed to remain in the mainspace when the policy disallows articles about downloadable Sims or families. Dharden (talk) 11:50, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * While I don't think we should keep a page on the Alice and Kev story specifically, I'd be open to looking at possible ways to incorporate that and other stories or themes into a notability policy-approved page. Certainly exceptions can be made to the Notability Policy if the community decides to do it. However, I still support deleting the page in its current form. --  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 11:54, May 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * We could simply ask the creator's permission to copy all the text and make it into a full fanon over here.Hurshbr (talk) 02:05, May 17, 2013 (UTC)Hurshbr
 * Fanon doesn't really work like that. By our own rules, the owner would have to waive direct ownership of the page to allow anyone else to edit it. The owner would also have to register a Wikia account in order to have fanon here to begin with. And, to top it off, if the owner did register and did allow it to be copied over, they would still have to update it regularly to keep it from being considered 'abandoned'.


 * tl;dr this isn't fanon and we can't treat it like fanon. -  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 02:30, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * I say we should delete it. The article is player-created content which is in the prohibited category of TSW:NP. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 03:40, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Apparently, the story has ended in the blog, while the one here is just the review, but seemingly unfinished. Despite the fact that it attracted averagely 100 comments or more, that doesn't necessarily mean it's widely known and notable around the fans of Sims. It's basically one of many player stories written in a blog.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  14:00, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * I read the story a few years ago and recently re-read it so that I could have a proper opinion for this discussion. If you read the 'story,' it is not a fanon. Alice and Kev does not seem like your typical story if you read it, as it is a recount of game events by the author. No exaggerations, no invented quotations, etc.; it simply retells what the characters did in the game. As such, this article would be better suited as being treated as an example of the game challenge used rather than a fanon, etc.


 * As well, for the questioning of its popularity - this story is definitely one of the most well-known, if not the most well-known, story using The Sims 3. However, it's hard to prove this for several reasons. One of them is that this story was written a few years ago and its popularity has obviously diminished. Though, a simple Google search of "Sims 3 story" has Alice and Kev as the top result - even above a page on TS3's official site. Because of this, I believe it is notable enough to be mentioned somewhere on the wiki. Perhaps not have its own page, but I do support keeping this page.


 * tl;dr what LiR said, but perhaps with a different definition. As well as the addition of this statement: Alice and Kev is notable. -- Bleeh (talk) (blog) 01:05, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Seeing as Forum:Determination of notability for Player Challenge had no opposition whatsoever, Player challenge will stick around. To avoid duplication, I'll redirect Alice and Kev to the Poverty Challenge section of the page. 12:24, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

User blog:LizardMaster178/SimWeekly - Issue 1
This blog seems almost like an exact clone of our weekly news blogs and does appear to be more news-oriented than opinionated. Normally I'd opt to just deleting it straight up but I'd like others to give their opinions first. 20:10, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * I say keep. There's no rule saying a user can't write news blogs, and he didn't add it to any of our blog categories, so there is no harm done. --  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 20:38, May 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * I say you should give him a warning for spamming on chat last night, he get posting the link and begging us to look. Dosen't it say the rules no spamming.  Blue12porcupine   talk  06:41, May 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Please don't use a deletion discussion to report a user. Keep the discussion here on whether or not to delete the page. Thanks. --  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 06:51, May 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete it, don't want to confuse users with unofficial news blogs and we already do a weekly news thing anyway.
 * I think we should warn or notify them about this issue since it can really confuse readers with our weekly news, especially with that wiki border since it's commonly used as community / Sims news. I know there's no restriction on this, but this will make people confused and if this continues, we might end up to proposing such usage of border to be restricted.


 * I choose to delete it. If the user wants to write weekly news, he can be part of the weekly news writers.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  14:43, May 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * The reason I suggested the deletion was that if the user does make this a weekly thing, as hinted, then it can easily cause confusion and even undermine our current news blog system. Nikel's solution sounds like the best here. 17:19, May 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * This is kind of unexplored territory, as far as deletion is concerned. I understand that having two concurrent news blogs is not really a good plan, but deleting this blog would be sending a really powerful message to users - only administrators can write news blogs. I for one am not comfortable with making that assertion without community consensus to back it up. After all, if we begin by making that limitation, how far are we willing to carry it?
 * So, I'm suggesting that we contact the user that wrote the blog and see if we can't reach some sort of compromise. I am absolutely not in favor of limiting editor freedom without good cause or without a community discussion. --  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 17:44, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Category:Instrument skills
It appears to be left over from before the various instrument skills were brought together in Instrument skill. That being so, I see no reason to keep it, and support deletion. Dharden (talk) 18:41, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * I am also in support of deletion. It's not really needed and it's best not to let it sit back and collect dust. And as said above, there is no reason to keep it. Beds (parlare ) (da leggere ) 18:43, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah pretty redundant. 19:35, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * And it's gone. Dharden (talk) 20:21, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Money (The Sims FreePlay)
This article is very short, nonspecific, and incomplete. It doesn't explain how money in this game differs from other games, other than how to earn it. Most of all, money is not a currency. I don't suppose that article will attract anyone to improve it any soon, and I doubt it will, before it goes to oblivion. I say we don't need that page. If someone can really improve it, it can be recreated again.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  09:08, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Some of the information could probably be placed in The Sims FreePlay, but I agree that it does not warrant its own article. Dharden (talk) 12:32, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * The recent edit changed "money" into "Simoleons", which made it even more pointless to have its own article.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  09:47, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Suarakatakat Strange
I've read townie article, and it says townies are generated when Sims visit somewhere, and they will be deleted if they don't become part of Sim's relationship. Townies in Magic Town has the surname "Strange," so don't these reasons mean that this Sim is a generated townie? If so, it has to be deleted.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  06:21, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

File:Jill Smith.jpg
JasonThePlum added Delete to the image page, however no reason was specified for it. Whatever the reason, I oppose for deleting this image. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 00:18, July 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * My guess is that it was nominated because it is an unused image. If you can find a place to put the image (Jill Smith might be a good place to start), I'd support keeping it. Otherwise, it's an IFP rule that we delete. --  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 00:23, July 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually the image was featured on the Jill Smith article, however it was removed yesterday by Nikel23. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 02:11, July 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Um, it could've been placed in a gallery section in the article instead. I think I removed it but forgot to place it back. :/


 * Anyway... I didn't really like that image to be used in Simbio-start, as it's too lengthy, so I'd prefer a gallery.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  03:32, July 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Like you totally forgot to place the bios back after removing them. I totally understand. I've added the image to the article's gallery due to its size. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 03:42, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Goth style, thrasher style, and socialite style
I don't like these articles. They're made so exclusive to one stuff pack only. Yet, the article type is not really prominent — architectural / object theme. I mean, there are still other themes that are more common than these three styles, such as Country, Modern, Moroccan, Mission, and so on; and I don't see how this kind of article can be improved. We can only distinguish these "styles" by the design of the objects, so how can we describe the article itself if not from images? And if so, are we going to make a gallery of "object styles"?  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  04:33, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest merging all of them into The Sims 2: Teen Style Stuff, or else just deleting them if they don't have any information worth saving. --  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 06:26, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * The information could easily be added to the Teen Style Stuff page in some way, I think. We already have the information and pictures there, so I think it's a bit wasteful just to delete it. ~ Waikikamukow  ( Anyone wanna chat? ) 06:56, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd agree to merge the information to The Sims 2: Teen Style Stuff as well. That would fit in better than making a new page for each style.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  07:15, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * If we're going to sort out this issue, we may as well try to sort out this page as well. It's really only filled with the styles that came with The Sims 3: Fast Lane Stuff. The page is also rather stub-worthy, holding very little information and a few pictures. ~ Waikikamukow  ( Anyone wanna chat? )  04:23, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd say the best bet is to merge into this page as they are about similar topics.  Des  kita
 * If we merge onto style, that would mean that we'd need to fill the page in with information on all the other styles available... which I see as being quite an issue once you take into account all the games, expansions, and stuff packs that have been released, all of them with one or more styles available. I think the easier thing is to just put any style information on the game/EP/SP pages. -  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 12:55, August 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's nice you can find that page, Waikikamukow. It just has the same issues with TSS styles. I also disagree with a merge onto Style page with the same reason as LiR's.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  16:44, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Revisiting Types of Death
The types of death article has once again been marked for deletion. An older discussion can be found here. The result was to keep the page. I wouldn't start the discussion, but I would just remind that there was once discussion for this. The result might change, though.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  18:02, August 4, 2013 (UTC)