Category talk:Candidates for deletion

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Veloci-Rooster
This is another deletion nomination that needs some explaining... the nomination says that the article doesn't warrant its own page, which I'm inclined to agree with. But should the information on the page instead be merged into another article, and if so, which article? --  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 07:14, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

The list of NPCs possibly? But I support the deletion. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:20, June 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * I support deletion. The Veloci-Rooster is possibly one of the last things people will be searching for anyway. Shouldn't let it clutter up the wiki. If anything, it could be merged into a list of NPCs, as C.Syde has said. &#8213; The  Tim   Man  (Infinite Histories • Galactic Crucibles • The Sims Wiki • Hallows Maleficent • Why I'm here in the first place ) 11:08, March 22, 2015 (UTC)


 * I disagree with deletion. This article covers an animal NPC with a minor story role--similar to Mata in Castaway Stories. I feel that the information is sufficient enough that it covers it warrants its own page. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 05:16, April 4, 2015 (UTC)

Category:LGBT Sims
Is it worthy to add this category with only one or two or more Sims? I know it can be add in some time but some of the Sims that stated in this section has said they are possible in LGBT category and this is unpredictable unless the developers said this who actually is or not. (Only the Davis-Welles couple had a same-sex relationship of other Sims and the Shear couples.)  .ThePeculiarMe  |  (talk to me)  |  (my mistakes)  00:21, July 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * IIRC, there is already a category for homosexual Sims. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 00:39, July 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure there's more than one LGBT Sim. Audrey Shear, Mark Davis-Welles, Michael Dandy, Rita Davis-Welles and Virginia Supine would all properly fall into this category for sure (I don't know why they're not listed). I'm ultimately on the fence about whether this should be deleted, since it could be implied that there are several other Sims in the series that could be LGBT but who we can't confirm. -  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 00:45, July 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Fishy, Nikel reverted IP's edit. I don't know why. :|  .ThePeculiarMe  |  (talk to me)  |  (my mistakes)  01:01, July 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * While there currently are only four Sims that definitely fall into this category, the release of The Sims 4 isn't that far off. Since EA has finally "breached the wall" of including Sims who are definitely in same-sex relationships, it seems possible that there could be some in that game, so I think we can leave it for the time being. Dharden (talk) 02:35, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

I'd be fine with keeping the category, however the structure should be totally changed. Gay Sims, Lesbians, Bisexual Sims -> LGBT Sims -> Sims. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 04:19, July 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * I never thought about that. We should keep this since TS4 will may have more LGBT Sims. And yes, since there are no transgender Sims, if there are any it will said by a Sim's bio or an extension of a spa or hospital interaction in the next game/s.  .ThePeculiarMe  |  (talk to me)  |  (my mistakes)  04:29, July 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm beginning to think that we should keep the category, at least for now, but change the name so that it refers to relationships. After all, preset relationships are something we can see in all games, whether or not we can see preset preference scores. Dharden (talk) 01:25, July 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'd probably go with Dharden's suggestion myself. One question though - would possibly gay or bisexual Sims like Circe Beaker, Titania Summerdream, Ariel Capp, Kent Capp, Nervous Subject and Jason Cleveland fall under this category. Or is this category only for Sims who are gay / bisexual in their pre-set back-stories? --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:11, July 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * I think we should limit it to those cases where there's a pre-made relationship or it's explicitly part of the back-story. Those preset preference levels in The Sims 2 are only stable as long as those Sims don't engage in any romantic interactions, and which way they ultimately go is up to the player. Those preset preferences aren't so high that a moderately determined player can't eventually change them. Dharden (talk) 13:13, July 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * Can we can the category into Sims who are engage in a same-sex relationship or something shorter than this? And getting the subcategories as Auror suggested or all the Sims will be in one category.  .ThePeculiarMe  |  (talk to me)  |  (my mistakes)  13:21, July 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, apologies. At that time, I thought the anon only did that to Audrey. I didn't see the rest of his contributions. I'm just afraid if The Sims 2 editors would exploit this category and claim everyone who has slight preference to the same gender to be gay/lesbian/bi, even though it might just be an oversight and not intended that way. It's actually happening with elders and Sims who have different genetic hair color with their physical hair color, and they're claimed to have dyed their hair. I really don't believe that's the case at all. I agree that we should limit the usage like Dharden explained though.


 * I'm not sure if we should keep the category or not though...  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  05:45, July 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * Per Dharden and Nikel. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 06:10, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

@ThePeculiarMe: A category can only be renamed by deleting it and creating a new category. All the articles that were in the old category have to be put in the new one manually or by bot, and all the links to the old one have to be removed the same way. Dharden (talk) 13:40, July 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * We have three (or is it four?) bots that can speedily move categories. It shouldn't be difficult at all. --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 13:46, July 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * -LGBT person here and a total Wikia noob so pardon any mistakes in editing this BUT I just discovered via an Autostraddle article that there were pre-made LGBT sims and it was probably the happiest Sims-related discovery I've made since the day I discovered passionate kissing can lead to having babies (Sims 1). So I made a category for bisexual sims with the idea of eventually making a category for lesbian and gay sims too...and then it was deleted, referring me to this page, which is apparently also a candidate for deletion. WTF? Effing KEEP the category folks, it's documentation and it really means a lot to those of us queer kids who grew up playing this game. Yeah, ideally there should be separate subcategories under LGBT because if sims can be sorted according to categories like "may have dyed their hair" or "love grilled salmon" then there can damn well be categories of who has a baseline pref for the same sex or both sexes (as opposed to undetermined.)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.152.201.148 (talk • contribs) 03:08, September 22, 2014 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~
 * While I understand where you're coming from, the decision to delete or not delete the category should not at all depend on whether it "really means a lot" to people who might find it. Categories exist to organize information, not to inspire people. Additionally, we also have a page which extensively details non-straight Sims in the series. As for individual sub-categories, it's not practical to create them if there aren't Sims in the game that can be sorted into that category. Note for instance that we don't have a category for transgender Sims on the wiki. It's not because we're opposed to having that category, but it's because there are no transgender Sims in the series, and therefore no purpose to the category.
 * So, discussion of whether or not to delete this template should not be biased towards personal feelings, but instead towards whether the category is needed from an organizational standpoint. -  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 03:33, September 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * While there has been talk about deleting this category, it is agreed that there should be something that is somewhat similar especially since The Sims 4 will probably have some, so don't worry about there being no category to identify these Sims. One of the things mentioned in the previous discussion, of which I agree with as well, is that the category should be used with those Sims who have a clear back story of being such or are in a same-sex relationship. Just because Sims have a very slight preference toward the same gender in SimPE does not make them an LGBT Sim because in most cases it is only a point or two, which isn't really anything. - Icemandeaf (talk) 03:24, September 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * While this is still in the discussion, I'll put the positive and very visible LGBT Sims into that category for a while.  .ThePeculiarMe  |  (talk to me)  |  (my mistakes)  05:53, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Pigeon
I don't see the importance of this article at all. Pigeons are just 3 things in the series: a special effect, a minor pet, and means of communication. Except the last one, this article is pretty much insignificant. Why would we have a separate article for a special effect? There are countless of special effects in The Sims 3, e.g. rainbows, hot air balloons, the train in Champs Les Sims, ocean waves, buoys, sailboats, schools of diving area fish, and manta rays. We don't have articles of these things for the same reason. Pigeons are also a minor pet, but there are also many other minor pets, and we certainly don't create separate article of each minor pet.

The only thing worth noting is as a means of communication in The Sims Medieval. Even then, it lacks information in general, and I think it's better mentioned in phone instead.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  06:50, August 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * I think the page is detailed enough and has enough references to it throughout the games to make it worth keeping. I oppose deletion. -  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 06:53, August 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * I personally believe its got enough information and I don't see deletion as being warranted but I'd like to get a bit more input before we go either way.
 * Other than being the equivalent of a phone, is there anything unique about the pigeon in The Sims Medieval? If there is, we could add that to the article instead of deleting it at this time. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  21:10, December 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly sure you can eat pigeons in The Sims Medieval, I believe its the equivalent of the low cooking level meals like Mac and Cheese in the main series.

Strangeville
I have never seen anyone use Strangeville as a nickname for Strangetown. Secondly, Strangeville is a custom neighborhood in The Sims 3 Store, available here. It doesn't appear notable enough to warrant its own article. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  12:25, February 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's because of this. I don't know why all the fuss about a minor thing. Delete it if it bothers you that much. --- ☣   ʀodrigo  x  (talk)(contribs) 12:28, February 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I don't really think it warrants even as a redirect? After all, it only appears as something mentioned at a bio incorrectly. Not many people would normally refer "Strangeville" to Strangetown unless they read the aliens' bio.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  12:38, February 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * I disagree. The Strangeville redirect should be kept and a note should be added about the name variant on Strangetown. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 16:14, February 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think keeping it as a redirect does any harm. --  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 23:33, March 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Where I stand now, I don't think this page warrants a re-direct, let alone it's own page. I don't think the term "Strangeville" is official enough to be kept as a re-direct to Strangetown. I support deletion. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 02:37, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Template:Gamesub
So, I was browsing through the templates section of the wiki, and I came across this little template here. It generally creates a Navigational box for walkthrough's, cheats & patches. I noticed that it was tagged under "Unused", so generally, I was going to delete it. But, decided not to and instead came to the conclusion to bring it up for a deletion discussion. According to the history of the page, it was last used 5 years ago. Should we just delete it, or attempt to bring it back? ~ Beds (talk - blog ) 17:06, March 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Eh, I think it's pretty dated? And it has never been used before. The question would be if we need a navigation box on cheat / patch / walkthrough pages. I don't think we have any plans for a navigation box on these pages, so I think it's okay to delete it.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  10:24, March 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Patch and cheats links are already at the bottom of the game template and are included if the pages exist via an #ifexist function (see The Sims 2: FreeTime and The Sims 3). Therefore there is no use for it, I support deleting it.

Category:Traits from The Sims 4
As we have done with the Business Savvy article, the current consensus is to keep traits from The Sims 4 in Trait (The Sims 4). Does this mean that this category, along with all the pages in it, should be deleted? Please advise. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  18:45, March 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * Support deletion of the category and additional trait pages, along with editing other pages to direct to Trait (The Sims 4), or setting the trait pages as redirects. --  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 00:00, March 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * I support deletion.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  11:56, March 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know how the trait system works in TS4 as I haven't had the opportunity to play the game but if we're keeping all the traits on the one article instead of giving them all pages I see no need for the category.
 * Do we redirect trait pages to their relevant entry at Trait (The Sims 4)? That would be a lot of redirects to create. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  02:23, March 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think that would be better than simply deleting them. Even if we edit the pages linking to the deleted pages, readers may still try to search for pages on those individual traits. Having redirect pages doesn't cause any harm and it's a relatively painless process to make them. --  LostInRiverview talk • blog  •  contribs 03:03, March 18, 2015 (UTC)