User talk:Icemandeaf/Archive 1

RE: Promotion Requirement
Hi. Sorry if it took a little while for me to reply. From your image, I see that the information on the table wasn't the same as the image. This is quite strange. I'm going to double-check in my game and SimPE to see what's in my game. Thanks for the feedback! I'll see which version is true!  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  06:55, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've just checked and you were right! I've changed the skill requirements on the table now. Again, thanks!  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  07:13, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Class information for TS2: University
I agree that it'd be good to include this, but haven't been able to figure a good way to do it, either. It'd almost have to be a table for each major, but keeping the size reasonable might be an issue. It's worth sandboxing it, though. Dharden (talk) 05:32, February 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the shorthand. It was after midnight here, and I was tired. Anyway, that just means going to the sandbox and working on the layout. Dharden (talk) 14:19, February 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think what you did on Talk:Majors looks good, though I think it would be better to leave the images for the hours out rather than use them so inconsistently. Dharden (talk) 04:41, February 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Argh. Tried it without the hour-images, and the hours display weirdly and look bad. Dharden (talk) 04:50, February 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * If you can make 'em, that'd be great. Me, I'm Graphically Impaired. Dharden (talk) 04:52, February 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * All right then. Dharden (talk) 05:00, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

RE: User changing several pages
Sorry about the absurdly late response - I had to go out for a while. I've left a warning on the user's talk page informing them of their edits. K6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 23:38, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Mention of me as owner of a Fanon on a talk page
That's true. When I duplicated the warning message, I forgot to change the username. I'll just change it now if it hasn't been changed already.  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 01:35, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for rollback
I wanted to let you know that I've nominated you for rollback on The Sims Wiki. Please go to the Requests for Rollback page and state whether or not you wish to accept the nomination. If you have any questions or concerns about this, please let me know. Thanks! --  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 00:51, April 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * Rollbacks, also known as "Rollbackers", are users that are able to use the rollback tool on wikis. On The Sims Wiki it is a prerequisite for adminship. --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 01:07, April 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * Basically, the rollback button lets you undo consecutive revisions of the last user. This tool is quite handy. When you see someone who obviously vandalizes the wiki, you can just click this button and it will revert the article back to the version before the last user edited it. Remember to limit the use of this rollback button for an obvious vandalism. If there's a good-faith edit but you somehow need to undo it, use the classic undo button. :)  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  06:51, April 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * By the way, I've approved the request. Congrats!  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  06:59, April 29, 2014 (UTC)

Rollbacks
Congratulations on your successful nomination for rollback! Thought I might give you a short introduction on the rollback tool.

Rollback is a feature of the MediaWiki software that runs many websites, namely Wikipedia and Wikia. It allows all consecutive edits made by one user to be undone in one click.

What rollback does. Rollback only works on the latest edit (current revision) in an article. If you click on rollback, it acts immediately. Instructing the server to perform rollback will revert all consecutive edits made by one user to the last revision not made by that user. For instance, if User A made 6 edits in a row to The Sims 2, and no one else edited after them, using rollback will revert all 6 of those edits to the last edit not made by User A.

When to use it. Because rollback does not allow for a custom edit summary, it should only be used for obvious vandalism. It should not be used to revert good faith edits or edits that have good intentions. If a good faith edit needs to be reverted, use the undo function or manually revert the edit and provide an explanation in the edit summary.

You can use rollback to:
 * Revert obvious vandalism
 * Revert your own edits (AKA self-reverting)
 * Revert edits in your own userspace (e.g. your userpage or your user talk page)
 * Revert a large amount of edits that are deemed unhelpful, such as a malfunctioning bot, as long as an explanation is posted somewhere, perhaps at the talk page of the bot.

What if I accidentally click it? It happens, because rollback works instantly. If you do accidentally rollback an edit you didn't intend to revert, just manually revert the edit and explain it was a mistake.

What else do I do after reverting vandalism? It's not strictly required, but it would be appropriate to warn the vandal on their user talk page. You can either use a hand-written warning or, now that you are a rollbacker, you can use the pre-made warning templates.

Have any questions? You can ask me at my talk page.

Thanks, and enjoy your new toy! --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 11:02, April 29, 2014 (UTC)

Continued from Genesis Project conversation....
So, you play GTA too? I love the series. I've played it for years. All of the PS3, all of the PS2, Chinatown Wars for DS. But nothing before that. I like games like that. Like Saints Row, and L.A. Noire. (And, you don't have to reply on my talkpage. I'll check back here, for replies. Or look on the wiki feed.) WayfinderOwl (talk) 22:12, May 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * LOL. : ) There is a wiki for it too, GTA Wiki. Google is a wonderful tool, isn't it? I'm looking forward to seeing if there are more accidental GTA-alikes in Genesis project. With the amount of males, it could happen again.


 * Oh, I wanted to ask, do you mind if I make my own TS3 fan back history to one of the orginal 8, and post it on here? I'll credit you, saying it is my fan version of your sim. WayfinderOwl (talk) 22:30, May 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll be sure to mention it, if it happens. : )


 * Coolio. :D If I get really into it, I could provide back histories for all of them. Like a non-canon, but canon if you want it to be, back story. WayfinderOwl (talk) 22:42, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

: )
Thank you! :D I'm still in shock about it. I was so nervous filling out the request. I never thought I'd get it. WayfinderOwl (talk) 04:54, May 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * I knew what one was, and what I'm supposed to do. I thought I'd at least have to wait a few hours, or get declined and told to re-request when I get more wiki experience or something. WayfinderOwl (talk) 05:46, May 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Really? I always expect the worst for everything, though. WayfinderOwl (talk) 05:57, May 18, 2014 (UTC)



RE: Career2 Parameter for Sims Infobox?
I haven't looked at the gory coding of the template, but I think the first career parameter must be filled in first, as I did here. --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 21:49, May 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * hm, I don't think that parameter works on Sim2, wouldn't bet on it. --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 22:02, May 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Neither Sim2 nor Sim3 appear to use the "career2" parameter... or maybe I'm not actually looking at the code for the templates. You can ask LiR or Lab for assistance, since they probably know more about templates and template coding than I do. --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 22:14, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I'm here to intervene your discussion. Sorry it's a bit late, but I feel like answering. There are two ways to get a workaround with it. I haven't tried yet, but I guess it'll work.
 * 1) Since your Sim is actually employed, I suggest you fill in the career parameter with the part time job they're in, and mention the bits about retirement in the article or append Category:Retired Sims at the end of the page. That's the only way to get your Sim to be recognized as "working" and "retired" at the same time.
 * 2) You could use the raw Sim template instead of Sim2 or Sim3. This way, you could use all of the parameters in Sim template intended for specific game versions.

-  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  15:14, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Undoing edit on my fanon page
I'd just like to say thanks for undoing the edit on my fanon page. It was clear that they didn't have my permission to edit my fanon.  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 21:33, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for administrator
Hi, Icemandeaf! I wanted to let you know that I have nominated you for administrative rights on the wiki. Please consider this nomination thoroughly, and be sure to respond on the RfA page, letting us know whether or not you accept the nomination.

Thanks and good luck! --  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 01:31, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Image from Teen
I left a notice on the IP's talk page, though I would advise reverting the IP again as it might trigger an edit war. Try to talk to the IP. If they don't respond... well, we'll deal with that later. --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 18:49, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

Beatrice Monty
Thanks for that! --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 01:05, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Administratorship
Congratulations! You have been promoted to administrator on The Sims Wiki. All the administrators and I will be more than happy to answer any questions you have or give you any advice. I am confident that you'll be able to learn the ropes very quickly. Welcome to the team! --  LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 05:56, June 24, 2014 (UTC)

Incredible! :) --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 05:56, June 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 06:00, June 24, 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations on your nomination and promotion to administrator! We're glad to see you join the administrative team!

Before you jump head-first into the action, I'd like to introduce you to these tools...

As an admin, you can:


 * Delete and undelete pages, and view deleted pages
 * Block and unblock users
 * Protect and unprotect pages
 * Edit edit filters
 * Grant or revoke chat moderator rights (admins automatically get these abilities)
 * And a lot more...

Please keep in mind that, even though you are an administrator, you're not "in charge" of the wiki, you're but a, shall we say... "janitor". You should only use your tools to clean up vandalism or for non-controversial housekeeping tasks. They should not be used to gain advantage over a content dispute. If you are in a content dispute, consult dispute resolution and talk it out with the other editors.

Don't feel like you're obliged to use your tools. You don't have to use your tools if you don't want to. If you're uncomfortable in a situation, you reserve the full right to back out of it, and ask another administrator to handle it for you. Remember, Wikia is a volunteer service! We want you to be comfortable editing here!

There is a help page on administrators over at Community Central. You can go there and read over how to use the tools! And if you want to experiment, you can play around in your own user space. If you have questions regarding the administrator tools, you are always more than welcome to ask us.

We're happy to have you on The Sims Wiki's administrative team! Good luck, and have fun out there! --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 12:49, June 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * Congrats there Icemandeaf! :) Beds (talk - blog ) 13:24, June 24, 2014 (UTC)

RE: A couple of things
Well, I *ahem* stole the code for the block messages. I'm using the latest version of Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox and the messages seem to work okay. In Chrome the borders are rounded; in Firefox they're not. But I don't really think this is a big or even a necessary difference, but thanks for letting me know.

The typical length for blocking is... use your own judgment, really. Normally, for IP addresses, a block between 24 hours and 48 hours is good for first-time offenses (check the block log). If you do an IP lookup and think the IP address may be a shared IP, you can use a shorter block length, to avoid affecting innocent users. Of course, it depends on the type of offense - if the user was issuing death threats or has resumed behavior after their recent block expired, a longer block length is desirable.

It's pretty rare, if ever, that you should block an IP address indefinitely, since they usually change owners. Also, at least in my opinion, you should allow logged in users to edit from IP addresses, since that can reduce the risk of innocent users being blocked.

For accounts, they work similarly to IP addresses, except that we presume that any edits from them come from one user, so indefinite blocks on accounts are more common. --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 16:51, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks :)
Hey, thank you for deleting that "blocked for the rest of your life" thing from my talk page. It was a bit scary actually. -- Breira Talk 17:38, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Welcome Bot for new IP/ new users
Yes, apparently the bot is working for newly registered users (though quite oddly it sometimes edits under the username of the administrator that most recently edited the wiki, which is why sometimes my contributions show that I welcomed a user at 3am EST, when I am asleep, so I am very baffled at this), but it's still not working for unregistered users. I have no idea what Wikia just did here. --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 18:45, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Human vs Sim
I think so, yes. Sim1 and Sim2 were already updated, I'm guessing it was a simple oversight. Just be sure to check a few pages with Sim3 to make sure the template is working right. --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 22:02, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

Peng Kao's Blog
Hey Icemandeaf, there's this blog created by a user named Peng Kao that doesn't appear to have anything to do with Sims. I was wondering if it should be deleted. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:08, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

While there isn't anything offensive about that blog post, I'd say that it's probably spam. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:16, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Blocking sockpuppets
I just thought I'd mention this in case you didn't know. When an admin blocks a sockpuppet account, they disable the user's ability to edit their talk page, since there's no chance that they'll ever be allowed to return using a sockpuppet account. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 02:38, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Featured Editor
Congrats K6ka Icemandeaf! You are the Featured Editor for September 2014! I've added the template to your userpage which you are free to move/remove. Once again, congratulations! --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 10:33, September 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Congratulations, Icemandeaf! Or is it K6ka, again?  .ThePeculiarMe  |  (talk to me)  |  (my mistakes)  10:42, September 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Congrats, "k6ka!" :p  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  10:54, September 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oooh... this looks as awkward as looking up to a birthday banner and seeing "Happy birthday girl boy!" How embarrassing... anyways, congratulations.... Icemandeaf! --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 11:30, September 3, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the honor. Including being named after a great guy. ;-) Icemandeaf (talk) 14:00, September 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Well I'm glad that you didn't think of my "minor" error as something like someone who drinks 40 mugs of coffee in the morning and jitters like a 9.0 earthquake :P --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 04:14, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Using the correct warnings
I noticed you left a standard vandalism warning on Special:Contributions/78.171.49.69's talk page. There are multiple warning types, each of them outlined at Template:Warning/doc. If someone does behavior that matches one of those other warnings, it's always better to use that warning instead of the default one. For instance, editing other people's fanons might be a mistake, but made in good faith. It's better to use the "fanon1" warning in order to specifically address the issue and let the user know, rather than a default "Your edits did not positively contribute to the wiki", which can confuse users (since they were acting in good faith and are probably stunned to see such a message!) and might drive away newcomers. --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 17:55, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Uncompleted request
Could you please complete this uncompleted request I made on this page, thanks! --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 19:56, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, wait, request is no longer relevant. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 19:57, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Unborn Baby Gorden
Considering that we know that this isn't canon material, I'd suggest deleting the talk page, in terms of consistency with other fanon Sims. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 00:34, October 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * Also I only just realised that you left a re-direct behind when moving the page. When you want to move a page to it's correct location, be sure to make sure that the "Leave a re-direct behind" box isn't ticked, unless you wanted to leave a re-direct behind (which in this case I'm sure you didn't). As for the re-direct itself, I guess one will need to delete it. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 00:47, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!
Oh thank you so much for the suggestion it helped and the pictures look better! I have a question how do you make templates, like the ones that say the sim family's names on them from, DarkSuicune2000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by DarkSuicune2000 (talk • contribs) 16:12, November 8, 2014 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

Edit warring moved to discussion
I just decided to inform a couple of other administrators about this edit warring. I'm not sure whether it was really necessary, but I felt that maybe their knowledge, and input could be of some use. --  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 21:23, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

Tip on deleting pages
How's it going, buddy? I know you're still otherwise new to the admin tools here, so I thought I'd give you a tip - make sure you remove the "content was: $1" bit in the delete summary when deleting pages with inappropriate content. The "content was:" bit is automatically generated by the MediaWiki software (consisting of the first few characters in wiki markup of the page being deleted) and is automatically added to the deletion summary. Normally we don't need to worry about it - however, if the page contains inappropriate content, such as profanity, personal attacks, or private information, you don't want that to appear in the delete summary, as that is publicly visible in the logs. You can just blank the delete summary and either use the ones in the drop-down menu, or enter one of your own. Thanks, and good luck out there! --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  03:52, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

YOUR RIGHT
-CLOSE MY DISCUSSION YOUR RIGHT THE USER IS GOOD NOT BAD- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.87.237.180 (talk • contribs) 17:31, December 19, 2014 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

Talk:Maxis
I didn't add the second tag... looks like RTE trying to be helpful by being a hero and fixing it, but failing at the same time. (Man, we could use a bot like BracketBot) --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  23:51, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

15 Years of The Sims, 10 Years of The Sims Wiki!
face thanks for help me there Malcolm Landgraab (Roaring Heights). I thought: If he is older than Malcolm, then it can be the father of Malcolm II. —Preceding unsigned comment added by L2Gamer (talk • contribs) 23:56, February 13, 2015 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

Family tree
Hey, Icemandeaf, would it be possible if I could borrow the code of your family trees for my fanon families? I don't really want to keep updating pictures of my family trees as that is getting quite cumbersome. So it would be awesome if you could let me (and teach me if you could) how to use your family tree code. Thanks! &#8213; The  Tim   Man  (Infinite Histories • Galactic Crucibles • The Sims Wiki • Hallows Maleficent • Why I'm here in the first place ) 04:45, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

Spam on the unicorn page
Sorry to bother you, but someone went to the unicorn page and replaced several key words and sentences with "JOHN SNOW" and I don't know how to restore the original text or if that's even possible. I can't remember the text off the top of my head, either. Do you think you could help with this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rem-Rei (talk • contribs) 18:05, March 19, 2015‎ (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

Ashford Fanon Page
I appreciate the edit a lot, and I think it will be very useful for other Simmers who will need it. Thank you for your interest in my fanon page! :D

--Ms. RandomFeline54 (talk) 19:20, April 12, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Fanon Page
He's a Cancer.

--Ms. RandomFeline54 (talk) 23:22, April 12, 2015 (UTC)

Let Anons Contribute!
It's no fair that Anons like me can't contribute to this Wiki. I want you to discuss this with the other admins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.251.178.53 (talk • contribs) 12:38, May 4, 2015‎ (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

The Dominate Game
Hey Icemandeaf! Would you be interested in participating in a new game I've created? Its name is self-explanatory :P, though I do recommend you give the page a read before coming to a decision. Thanks! &#8213; The  Tim   Man  (Infinite Histories • Galactic Crucibles • The Sims Wiki • AltHistory • Contribs ) 10:12, May 24, 2015 (UTC)

Images
Hello Icemandeaf. Can you please delete 4 images i have placed on this wiki. It was for a gallery but it didn't worked. And i don't know how to delete images. Can you please help me out?

THIS IMAGES:
 * [[File:IMG_4423.JPG IMG 4423.JPG]]
 * [[File:IMG_4022.JPG IMG 4022.JPG]]
 * [[File:Snow_fountain.jpg Snow fountain.jpg]]
 * [[File:Koffie_004.jpg Koffie 004.jpg]]

Sims2Player (talk) 13:59, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Fanon Sims with name changes
Page links are best kept as redirects, since there may be many, many links, and it would be tedious to change them all (you can use the PageRenameAuto-update script if you still want to update them, or better yet, ask me to run my bot to fix them). Files can also be redirected, IIRC, but they then show up in maintenance pages and categories, and that may not be desirable. I use FileUsageAuto-update to update file links immediately after moving a page, so you can try that or ask me to move the file pages for you, or you can keep them as redirects and let me know so I can run my bot to fix them. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  11:39, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

Unblock template substitution
Please keep in mind that Unblock, Unblock-accepted, and Unblock-declined should not be substituted, since they weren't designed to be substituted. Thanks, --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  21:39, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

Family trees program
Hi, do you know any program or site to make a family tree to The Sims Fanon? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colette Rousseau (talk • contribs) (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

Thanks Colette Rousseau 05:34, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Hi
Wow, are you really Deaf? That's sad man :(  Sims    Player  (talk) (mistakes) 17:11, June 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's just so sad for people who can't hear. Sims  Plumbob.png  Player  (talk) (mistakes) 17:15, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Advice Needed
Hello! I am new to this wiki and while I have read the policies, I would like to know what I can do to help this wiki out? The articles seem to be in perfect condition, but I really want to help out. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you so much. S*pphir3 St*rdust (talk) 19:47, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

Adoption
Thank you for adopting me. I really appreciate it. While I know how to do basic editing like grammar, spelling and punctuation correction, I have no idea how to use or edit templates or do other complicated coding. That is where I need help. Thank you so much again. S*pphir3 St*rdust (talk) 16:31, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Questions
Hi! I have a question- Is it okay if I copy other the coding from other people's userpages and change the info to make it mine? This is how I learned how to put the templates on my userpage, but wasn't sure if that was considered plagarism. I just added the coding, but found the templates myself and added those instead of the ones the people had on their page. I hope I'm not in trouble for this. I just wanted to ask. Also, on some of the pages, I've noticed the British spelling of things, like neighbourhood instead of neighborhood. I haven't been changing them, but should I? I just want to make sure I'm doing things right. Thank you so much.

S*pphir3 St*rdust (talk) 17:26, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Links
Thank you so much for letting me know about the links. I thought I did it right by just clicking the link button and adding the address in, but obviously I messed that up. Now I know better in the future. I really appreciate it. If I mess up, I want to be told how to correct it. Thank you again. S*pphir3 St*rdust (talk) 18:49, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you so much for the help with the images. I tried to get the spacing right, but just couldn't do it. Now I know to add a gallery. Thank you so much again. XD S*pphir3 St*rdust (talk) 21:52, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

Community Discussions
Since I am so new to this wiki (been here only a week), I was wondering if I can participate in the Community Discussions or do I have to wait for a certain period of time? As always, thank you so much for the help. S*pphir3 St*rdust (talk) 19:03, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help. I'm so happy that I don't have to wait a certain amount of time (due to how long I've been on here) or have a certain edit count to feel like I am a part of the wiki community. I've been on wikis that certain conditions must have been met before getting to be able to go into the discussions. This wiki is MUCH better. Thanks again. I hope you had a wonderful weekend. S*pphir3 St*rdust (talk) 23:40, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

Question About Reverted Edits
Hi! I hate to bother you with ANOTHER question, but I just need to know this. I unknowingly made two mistakes on editing, and those edits were reverted. Am I going to get in trouble for that? I didn't mean to do it; I thought they were good edits until the revert. Then I saw my mistakes. I don't want people to think I'm a bad editor, since I am trying my hardest to become a great editor on here. Thank you so much for your help. I always appreciate it. S*pphir3 St*rdust (talk) 16:46, July 20, 2015 (UTC)