Talk:Mysteries in The Sims series

Category.
How are we going to categorize this page? BobNewbie talk • blog 08:36, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, should we create a new category for this? Thanks. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 08:42, December 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think so. Theres only 1 page. I liked creating the page, and if anyone has any ideas, feel free to give them to me. BobNewbie talk •  blog 08:44, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Erik Darling's death
It's impossible for Agnes to have killed Erik Darling, because there is one part in her house that proves that she TRULY loved him. That's the unfinished baby room, complete with a crib and and a teddy bear. That probably meant that both of them wanted a baby.SimAddict 03:38, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Bridgeport Damage
Has anybody noticed that one of the roads leading outside Bridgeport is completely destroyed? and I heard something about roads leading into the sea. What could that mean?

It's probably earthquake, these road could be damaged by that event. DiamondSim 23:30, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Where's the theory page for the Remington Family? IsaLie 18:31, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Remingtons
Uh, aren't the Remington's pretty obviously just a reference to Sarah Winchester? --70.72.176.175 (talk) 00:01, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

Two Skips
I removed this section because it overemphasizes a seemingly random duplicate of a sim and unsuccessfully attempts to explain an obvious continuity error (regarding Brandi's unborn baby) with some incoherent fan theory about two Skip Brokes killing eachother. -- Randomlurker87 (talk) 20:16, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ehm, I think it's best for us to discuss this matter first in this page rather than removing the info by yourself. As you can see, that information has been there for quite some time. Also, you'd have to be careful next time as you just recently triggered a what so called "section blanking". -- 20:24, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Looking from a neutral point at the discussion, Randomlurker I understand as to why you removed Skip's mystery, however, you should have began a discussion, before removing the mystery. As for your reasoning, your reasoning is understandable but there's a whole point to the mystery.
 * If we are going to take this as a proper discussion, then there are some things that have to be discussed. The first thing to be discussed is this; should the Two Skips mystery be removed from the mysteries page? Also, if removed, will we be able to come up with a solid reasoning as to why it must be removed?
 * Go ahead and discuss, it'll be interesting to see what arguments are brought up. Beds (parlare - da leggere ) 20:39, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Skip's duplicate isn't particularly relevant and half of the section is a fan speculation for the circumstances of Skip's "suspicious" death (which, may be more appropriatelly interpreted as a reference to the practice of players intentionally drowning their Sims in TS1 and TS2). If not misleading, that section is not informative at all, thus not worth keeping. -- Randomlurker87 (talk) 20:45, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Skip's "suspicious pool ladder accident" may be considered a mystery, but Skip's "clone"? I don't think so. Many other sims such as Michael Bachelor and Darleen Dreamer also have clones. Appearing in memories means nothing as Nervous' clone appears in Olive Specter's memories too. Having distinctive characteristics (eye color) also means nothing, as the other duplicates all have those kind of differences (and the developers apparently don't care about such minor details). -- Randomlurker87 (talk) 20:59, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * How about if we justify the mystery then? Perhaps, instead of the whole Two Skips Mystery, it could be his suspicious pool ladder accident? Then again, the whole point of the mystery, and the big main point, is how there is two Skips and the reasoning behind it. Beds (parlare - da leggere ) 21:04, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't forget that the storyline itself only mentions ONE Skip Broke. I don't see how "Two Skips" is a valid mystery but Two Michaels, Two Darleens, Two Nervous Subjects, Two Fangalokas or THREE Tutorial Joes aren't. There is no mystery about the many duplicates. They all exist to replace damaged/glitched originals (or in Joe's case, to cover different tutorial sections). Skip's appears in the memories? Nervous Subject's duplicate appears in memories too. The storyline considers all duplicates and originals the same people. Most people wouldn't care or notice the existence of "clones" without the advent of SimPE anyway. Now Skip Broke's pool ladder accident IS a valid canon mystery that's not covered by the article. -- Randomlurker87 (talk) 19:01, November 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Personally, I really agree with Randomlurker's reasoning. The theory that there are two Skips (or duplicate Sims for that matter), and that the duplicate Sims have anything to do with the game's storytelling is very irrelevant and misleading. Yes, there are, in fact, two different Sims of the supposed same person, but that is really under technical reason. Perhaps the purpose was for memories, genetics, or anything game mechanic-wise, but if we are to see it in the storytelling point of view, everyone can really see that these duplicate Sims were meant to point to the same person.


 * Randomlurker's reasons perfectly make sense to me, and therefore I support eliminating the theory.


 * And if there were a theory about these duplicate Sims, I'd think it should be, "Did the developer accidentally hit 'clone' button while creating these Sims?" and so on. Like I said, they are duplicate for game mechanic purposes, but not storytelling purposes.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  23:17, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * So, what are we waiting for? Is there still a good reason to keep the section? The fact that it was there for quite some time is not relevant at all, plus the whole argument behind the mystery is heavily based on assumptions. Like Nikel123 said, i think it's safe to assume they are there for game mechanics only as the stories states nothing that vaguely hints the existence of duplicates.


 * And seriously stuff like "Did the Skips killed eachother" and "Did Agnes Crumplebottom really love Erik Darling?" should be removed imediatelly (or should we fill the article with more weird theories like "Has Dina forced Michael Bachelor to drink the Elixir of Life with low Aspiration to shorten his lifespan?" or "Are the Newson orphans freaks that killed their original parents and adoptive mother?" Nonono better leave all the sillyness to the theories section of every sims' pages) -- Randomlurker87 (talk) 23:22, December 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * It took considerable amount of time until someone took care of it, but I presume the anonymous contributor who made the edit was Randomlurker himself. But I see that instead of removing it completely, the theories were revised better. I like how it is now better.  Nikel  Talk  –  Vote!  07:28, December 9, 2013 (UTC)