Lilith Pleasant/theories

While the reason is never given, it is quite obvious that Lilith Pleasant's parents overwhelmingly favored Angela. Why is unknown. Place your theories here.

Theories

 * I think that Lilith was a rebellious child when she was younger so Mary-Sue and Daniel saw that she was so independent and so they didn't pay so much attention to her because they knew Lilith wouldn't like it. Bakerychaz 12:48, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Mary-Sue and Daniel only wanted one child but since lilith was the younger one (family memories) they didn't treat her good.
 * Heres an idea. Maybe Mary-Sue loved both the twins but she was too busy with work to teach Lillith her toddler skills or socialise with her. That explains their low relationship.
 * The theory above is good, more I think only that Lilith is the rebel type of child just like Dustin Broke.
 * I think that the Pleasants were expecting only 1 child, and that was Angela. i think that the doctor gave them the wrong info.i think that they had another name just in case and that name was Lilith.thats the only way to me that it would make scence. from, bvbfan1
 * I'm convinced that Angela and Lilith were Daniel's "clones" just as Brandi's unborn son is her "clone". Otherwise they would have black hair and brown eyes.
 * I agree with lots of people here that Daniel && Mary-Sue only wanted one child. Maybe this forced Lilith to be abnoxious etc., because she didn't feel loved.
 * i think that they were expecting only 1 child, which was Angela. they probably had Lillth over surprise. they probably just thought up a name, which was the name of lillth. from, bvbfan1
 * Probably Lillith was too rebellious so everyone turned against her she was proberly born mean and nasty but I think she's jealous about Angela being an Overachiver.
 * Hello!I agree with the first theory.But it still isn't right of her parents! BTW,how can Lilith can walk,talk and use the toliet if she never was taught her toddler skills?Peace out!196.25.255.250 18:27, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought that perhaps it was the parents' careers. Teaching toddler skills takes time and both Daniel and Mary-Sue are in quite high-powered, difficult jobs. Also, the twins are identical. They may have thought that they were teaching toddler skills as best they could with both of their twins, and didn't realise that they only completed any of them with one of their girls. In terms of childhood and teenage, it seems like maybe Angela bought into the idea that appearances really do matter a lots, whereas Lilith didn't. Over time, that's morphed into Lilith actively rejecting her family's stated values, while Angela tries so hard to be perfect that she's heading for a nervous breakdown - Timbo
 * I think Lillith is not loved by her parents because maybe Daniel and Mary-Sue (parents) only wanted 1 child. It says in their memory that they had Angela first so they were happy but when they got Lillith they gave all the attention to Angela. In their memory niether one of them potty trained or taught to talk Lillith. Therefore she felt left out and started doing bad things.
 * I don't think it's because they only wanted one child. I think it's because they are just not that great of parents. Angela has a positive relationship with her parents but its 20/20 for both. Its not like they are even friends. Lilith has a negative relationship. I think Mary-Sue was just too focused on her works to be boggled down with kids, and Daniel is a romance sim, he didn't want to become married and have kids. He is more worried about his career as a athlete and his romances. So I don't think they gave either one of them a lot of attention. Also twins have different personality. One twin style is preppy and the other one is goth and there is nothing wrong with that. Lilith is just different.
 * I think that The Pleasants were only expecting one child (Angela) But were suprised that they had twins. But Daniel and Mary-Sue parents only had time for one child each. Mary-Sue took Angela and Daniel took Lilith. Mary-Sue taught Angela to Walk and Talk but Daniel mistook Angela for Lilith and assumed Mary-Sue had taught Lilith to walk and talk so he taught Angela who he though was Lilith to use the toilet. Lilith was forgotten by Daniel and was never taught her Toddler Skills. Lilith assumed that her Parents didn't love her and became who she is at the start of the game.
 * I think that The Pleasants were only expecting one child (Angela) But were suprised that they had twins. But Daniel and Mary-Sue parents only had time for one child each. Mary-Sue took Angela and Daniel took Lilith. Mary-Sue taught Angela to Walk and Talk but Daniel mistook Angela for Lilith and assumed Mary-Sue had taught Lilith to walk and talk so he taught Angela who he though was Lilith to use the toilet. Lilith was forgotten by Daniel and was never taught her Toddler Skills. Lilith assumed that her Parents didn't love her and became who she is at the start of the game.
 * I agree with most theories that Mary-Sue and Daniel only wanted one child (which might have been too much for Daniel already, because of his Romance personality). But I want to add that in The Sims, you don't know anything about upcoming babies. Also note that when the twins were born, this was only a few years after The Sims - they're in their teens. There was very little known about babies. So when Angela was born (perhaps just before 7 PM) the parents were happy about it, and called her their angel - Angela. But then, unexpectedly, another one came - Lillith - which they didn't want at all. One was enough. They called her Lillith because she was born just after 7 PM, when it just got dark. So both parents always had a slight dislike for Lillith. Time skip to toddlerhood. Angela, the favorite, got her todder skills first, but this took up all of her toddlerhood, because Mary-Sue was very busy with work and Daniel with his romances. So, by the time it was Lillith's turn, it was their birthday already. So, Lillith grows up badly and Angela grows up fine. Time skip to childhood. By now, Mary-Sue and Daniel didn't want Lillith to feel neglected, so they bought her lots of expensive things. Lillith liked dark, so she got a dark room. But now it's the other way around: for Angela's room they were short on money. But they bought her a computer to make up for it. Now Angela had a computer while Lillith did not. She felt neglected, and grew up badly, while Angela grew up fine. All this time, Lillith felt bad, and went for darker colors and got worse grades at school. Angela thought all was fine and bright and got better grades. The good grades made Mary-Sue and Daniel love Angela even more, while Lillith got a dislike for her parents - for always letting Angela go first - and started to hate Angela. This, in turn made the others dislike Lillith. There's only one sidenote to the whole story: while Lillith became the 'bad girl', she attracted Dirk Dreamer. Being more able to stand on her own, they already were dating by Sims 2. Meanwhile, Angela was a little less able to do that, and only lately (perhaps one day before Sims 2) she started dating Dustin Broke. Angela might be attracted to him because of his humble origins: she might not have wanted to be spoiled. This explains her positive but not good relationship with her parents: they're spoiling her to make up for not being home often (again, Mary-Sue and her work and Daniel and his Romance), which she thinks is unfair. Mary-Sue has been worrying about this lately and has begun to notice Daniel, so she's doing badly at work. All of this combined, is the starting point for The Sims 2
 * I think that the Pleasants were only expecting one child and were very surprised and didn't really know how to cope when they had twins. They instantly bonded with Angela because she's a bit of a goody two shoes, but they didn't know how to relate to Lilith because she was always a bit rebellious from the start. This lead them to accidently neglect Lilith (but they didn't actually abuse her) Lilith was jealous of her sister, who always got good grades, nice stuff etc. She also felt unloved by her family and acted rebellious to get attention. Unfortunatel, this did nothing to improve her relationship with Mary-Sue and daniel. Angela felt sorry for her twin and thought that her parents were treating her unfairly (which explains why she has a positive but not great relationship with her mother).
 * I think Lilith is autistic. That's why she couldn't learn her toddler skills and her grades are bad. Her parents are unaware of it and just don't understand why she acts the way she does, that's why they have such a low relationship score. She reminds me of Lisbeth Salander in a way. Daniel could totally be Zalachenko. ;)
 * I think that the twins names are incredibly important in this. Angela means heavenly (Angel), Lilith is the name of a demon. This would back up the idea that the Pleasants only wanted one child (Angela, because she's the eldest) so they gave her basic food and clothes but didn't help her as she was unwanted.
 * To be honest, I think Lilith was always loved by her parents. My story is she was really shy as a toddler and hard to approach, where Angela was not. As a child, she was confused, but didn't flunk in school because of the Social worker would take her away from her parents. As a teenager, she took the confusion from her child and thought she was hated, therefore turning into a rebel. I decided to change her into a nice person, so that's my theory.AsherEire 16:56, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Personally I think that it was everyone's fault. When Lilith was born, her parents only wanted one kid. So when they were teaching the kids how to walk/talk, they thought it was a better idea to teach Angela first because she was a first born. When Lilith found out about this she got mad and started keeping to herself. She didn't care about school, and would always get yelled at by her parents because of her grades.
 * The Pleasant Twins are identical, so when they were born Daniel and Mary-Sue mixed them up because they were dressed alike and nobody could tell them apart. Angela learned her toddler skills and she also learned Lilith's skills because her parents were mixed up. So Daniel and Mary-Sue tought Angela her skills and Daniel and Mary-Sue thought that they tought Lilith her skills but it was Angela instead. So that is why Lilith is so gothic and mean ect. Angela is a goody-goody because she was "deciplined" twice while Lilith was not. Since Angela learned extra skills, she is good and never misbehaves. But poor Lilith never learned anything so she thinks it is okay to do what she wants. Angela and Lilith are opposites because Mary-Sue forced them to dress alike until they were teenagers, wich confused Daniel who mixed them up all the time!!! 64.229.133.49 (talk) 21:26, April 6, 2012 (UTC)Wakefield Twins