Talk:Lolita Goth

Who is Lolita Goth?
Can someone tell me how Lolita is related to the Goth family? I think she'll be Victor's mother but who knows? Matta jr 18:44, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I have played the Sims 3, legally, and she is not shown anywhere in the family tree. What is really strange is that Frida Goth is not shown either...--Bella Goth 04:34, 5 June 2009 (UTC)Bella Goth

-Frida Goth wasn't added because there was already 8 people. Victor, Simon, Moritmer, Gunther, Cornelia, Anges, Gretle, and Prudece. EA even comfirmed this. Who is Lolita Goth? I don't know. Gunther's first wife is what I believe.--Amigop 18:38, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

I was playing as the Bachelors and I heard the ghost music real faintly and I saw her go into a different house other then the Goth's. It was creepy.  Z mario  20:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Theories on Lolita Goth
I'm pretty sure that she's actually a previously created sim and then killed by EA. I think the theory should be "How did Lolita die?" Since it is more confusing.

I believe that Lolita Goth was Gunther's first wife. This could possibly explain why she has an unknown relation to the others in the family tree, and why her ghost flirts with Gunther behind Cornelia's back. According to her grave at the Goth manor, it says that she's been shocked to death. Maybe when she died, she was still tied to the family tree, but when Gunther met Cornelia, she could've soon been forgotten, her relation to the Goth family soon becoming unknown. We may never truly know, though, for EA knows what they did with Lolita and what was the plot behind her. -Sims Fanatic~

I think I know who she is...
She's possibly a relavtive of Agnes or Cornielia. Or she's Gunther Goth's ex-wife. I don't know xD

SimVampire200 (talk) 11:06, July 12, 2012 (UTC)SimVampire200

I know who Lolita Goth is...
Im her mother I can tell you everything about her...

She borned at riverview...

She met a boy, they became best friends...

She kissed him for first time...

She loves Stu Surprise...

They got enganged...

They woohoo...

They married...

And then she died...

Someone kill her...

I know who...

CORNELIA!

79.129.153.74 (talk) 15:09, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

1: her favorite food is cookies, 2: i think Cornelia did not kill her. Propably Lolita was either a ghostbaby, or maybe she was Victor's first wife that was also Frida's biological mom, but Victor actually loved Gretle. Gunther was Gretle's son and was born 2-3 simdays after Frida. Lolita was hit by lightning when Frida was a late toddler, and Gunther was in the middle of the toddler stage. Victor and Gretle decided to marry when both Gunther and Frida were kids. (Cornelia was a kid at the time, too. So was Iqbal. Most of the people that are currently in the middle of the adult lifestage, were toddlers back then. Beau, Victoria, Dorie, Gobias, Geoffrey, Iliana, Dustin, Claire, Nick, Vita, Nancy, and Molly were babies, Yumi was a teen, and Xander, Jamie, Stiles, Agnes, and Zelda were on the way (AKA Unborn Babies Clavell, Jolina*, McGraw*, Crumplebottom, and Mae*, respectively.) Tamara and Thornton would just have been... "possiblities". Huh.) Flash forward to some 10 years\simdays. Tamara and Thornton are now late toddlers, Xander, Jamie, Stiles, Agnes, and Zelda are early kids\elementary school aged, Yumi is already an Young Adult, Beau, Victoria, Dorie, Gobias, Geoffrey, Iliana, Dustin, Claire, Nick, Vita, Nancy, and Molly were middle childhood\late elementary or middle school aged, Iqbal, Cornelia, and Gunther were late teens ready to go to college, and the rest of the current adults were in their early teens. People currently in the middle of the YA lifestage were just starting being born. Cornelia and Gunther liked each other, Gunther did not want Iqbal to marry Cornelia and was overprotective of her. This is b\c Iqbal is of poor family. Iqbal ended up having an arranged marriage and had 2 kids by her (VJ and Miraj) but the wife's personality did not really match Iqbal, so she left shortly after Miraj's birth. Or maybe she even died in childbirth when Miraj was born. Frida was suppose to marry Malcolm Landgraab II, but she ran away to Midnight Hollow the day before Gunther and Cornelia's marriage as early YA's. BTW, the currently middle-adults were late teens at the time,  Beau, Victoria, Dorie, Gobias, Geoffrey, Iliana, Dustin, Claire, Nick, Vita, Nancy, and Molly were in their mid-teens, Xander, Jamie, Stiles, Agnes, and Zelda were late kids (middle-school aged), and Tamara plus Thornton were in their middle childhood. The middle YA's (That's Jared Frio, Marty Keaton, Justine Keaton, and Morgana Wolff.) were either very early kids or even toddlers. (Expecially Morgana, she would have had to be a toddler back then). And people like Tori Kimura, Hank Goddard, Pauline Wan, and Emma Hatch, would have to be either babies or on the way. Even if some of the younger couples like the Wainwrights, Altos, Bachelors, Bunches, Harts, Langerak, and McIrish-es (unless River is adopted... or maybe EAxis does not really care about the minor families and this is why they do not have full family trees.) were starting to have kids early, Gunther was stricken by Frida's death and did not want to get Cornelia pregnant. Plus Gunther's day was way too busy and he could not find a free hour to impregnate Cornelia and this is why they had kids late. Or maybe Mortimer has older siblings that moved into other towns. Or the Goth Family can only have sons once they're of a certain age. Or maybe Gunther should have been with 16 days to elder and Cornelia with 18 days to elder (it would make a bit more sense) but they screwed up with the ages. Or maybe they tried for baby early but Cornelia does not have an high pregnancy rate like Judy does. Kaylabaraonda (talk) 11:26, May 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Unless surname-dropping or name changes are implied. Zelda and Stiles are musicians so they could be going by stagenames. The other guy in Stiles' household is also going by "Cycl0n3 Sw0rd" which is also suppose to be a hackername\stagename. I do not know why Jamie Jolina would go by a stage name. Maybe it's because her birth name is way too traumatic for the minds of the poor simlets. (Like in the Mighty B, there's a girl scout called Bessie K. Higgenbottom and in one episode the K is revealed to stand for Kajolica that apparently when you say it weird stuffs happens.)