Talk:Eclectic and Enigmatic Energizer

Talk:Eclectic and Enigmatic Energizer

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Inventor

The article states that it was possibly invented by Loki Beaker. Yet, there is no evidence to suggest this, or even any theory by any player trying to prove it as such. I removed the statement from the article, but was undone, so I'm bringing it here. I believe the statement should be removed from the article unless someone can provide sufficient evidence that he did in fact invent it (or even present evidence that there's the possibility of it). - LostInRiverview ^{talk ~ blog} 13:04, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Judging by the image in the storyline, Loki Beaker looks disappointed at the machine's failure (whilst Nervous Subject stands in there horrified). Only an inventor would do such a thing to their own creation, which is why it was implied that Loki invented the contraption. K6ka (talk | contribs) 13:16, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Is there a picture of this somewhere on the wiki? -- LostInRiverview ^{talk ~ blog} 13:21, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Is it this one? K6ka (talk | contribs) 13:33, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure what that picture is supposed to illustrate, but it could mean multiple things. Perhaps Loki is using the machine to torture Nervous in some way? Maybe Loki is angry that Nervous is using the machine without his permission? The point is the image doesn't make it clear that the machine was invented by Loki, and there's nothing else within canon that suggests he made it. I still favor removing the reference from the article. -- LostInRiverview ^{talk ~ blog} 18:51, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

I think the notion that this contraption was invented by Loki Beaker is just a mere speculation. There should be concrete evidence, such as explicitly stated in the object description. I'm in favor of removing it, with the same reason as LiR's. Nikel _{Talk – Vote!} 14:22, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Yes there is no concrete evidence, but I read about the speculation and thought that it may be a possibility. Loki is an inventor, both canon and out. While there is no significant evidence that this was one of the machines that Loki made, it would make sense if it turned out that he did create it. C.Syde65 (talk) 06:15, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Article name

I think we should consider renaming this article to 'Eclectic and Enigmatic Energizer'. Wikipedia's naming conventions for articles (which we tend to mimic) state that words like "the," "an," and "a" should only be included if they change the meaning of the words after them, or are capitalized when used in running text. The article itself doesn't use the full name of the object outside the first sentence, so there's no example to look at. However, the term 'Eclectic and Enigmatic Energizer' doesn't lose its meaning if 'The' is removed from it, and you could in theory use the term without the word - example: "There are two Eclectic and Enigmatic Energizers on the lot." That sentence would not sound very good if it instead said "There are two The Eclectic and Enigmatic Energizers on the lot," instead.

Thoughts? -- LostInRiverview ^{talk ~ blog} 16:22, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

I can see why the article title has the word 'the' in it, however, I don't really think it should be there considering the fact that it is not called 'The Eclectic and Enigmatic Energizer'. Therefore, I'm all for the name change. Beds ^{(parlare - da leggere)} 16:35, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

I think renaming it is better. On a second thought, I'm not sure how much this convention would expand. Is this only applied to this article, to all object articles, or to anything that starts with "The"? I think there are several household names that start with "The". Is this going to affect them too? Nikel _{Talk – Vote!} 07:18, January 30, 2014 (UTC)