Talk:Lifetime wish

Talk:Lifetime wish

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Sim Eater?

I've been looking for the Sim Eater Lifetime Wish, but there's nothing! It could have been scrapped and just stayed in the game files. What do you think? |_Andronikos Leventis ^Talk 12:20, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, I haven't found it anywhere, too. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 12:23, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

What? I thought a newly released expansion packs wouldn't make any scrapped things like this... Nikel23 12:43, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

I also haven't found the one with the gold record. By the way, Nikel123, it happens in EVERY expansion pack. Especially from WA. I hate it when creators scrap things. In WA, for example, your sims would be able to go to the top of the Eifel Tower. In my opinion, it is both a waste of time and a pity for the players. |_Andronikos Leventis ^Talk 13:02, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Obviously, it is a vampire-only LW. The only way to obtain it may be by having a child born as a vampire and it might be available to him/her later in life. --BobNewbie ^{talk • blog} 13:22, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

I've just checked this. It does not happen. I also made an adult vampire and made him change his LW. Still, there were only the regular options. |_Andronikos Leventis ^Talk 15:08, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Since theres no harm in doing it, lets leave it up for a short while longer and see if anybody finds it. Otherwise, its gotta go. --BobNewbie ^{talk • blog} 15:18, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

If by "gotta go" means "erase it" or "do not include it in LW list", I'd say no. Why not just put it in removed LW in case it really isn't in the game?Nikel23 15:35, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Good idea. Obviously, nobody cares. |_Andronikos Leventis ^Talk 15:56, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

i Don't Get It

LolitaG - Girls Generation TALK - 12:57, November 23, 2011 (UTC) I don't get it. What are they meaning of monsters? If no one can answer, I'll look for it on youtube.

Supernatural LTW

From Supernatural article, it lists at least 12 LTWs, but I only have 9 icons I got from sims.mixei.ru. It'll be appreciated if anyone is willing to add them to the list. Nikel _{Talk – Vote!}08:19, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for the images. Found out in game that there are 9 LTWs. Will sort this matter out soon.

TWikia _Talkie

11:30, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

Removed LTWs

Interesting... It seems that Extraordinary Entrepreneur LTW is achieved by earning a certain number of Simoleons by becoming self-employed. The placeholder name in the game file is <name>*Make over $n simoleons in your own business</name>, which is self explanatory. So there was actually LTW for each career after all, excluding Education. Nikel _{Talk – Vote!} 16:33, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Even funnier, there's an LTW named <Name>*Have more than $n customers as a maid</Name>, which I have no idea how to fulfill in the game. It's more incomplete than other LTWs though, so they might've scrapped it even earlier. It doesn't even have icon itself. It's from Ambitions. Nikel _{Talk – Vote!} 16:41, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Zombie Master

There are two key traits listed for zombie master: witch and evil. Apparently there're more because I picked zombie master with only absent minded, unflirty, inappropriate, & loner (human in supernatural dlc). I hope that others who've picked zombie master will list their traits, so that um, we can update this. Cholyn (talk) 18:26, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

The problem is, we can't tell which trait affects which lifetime wish to appear. There doesn't seem to be a hard-coded list to determine the traits and lifetime wishes. It's even more redundant due to the fact that we can now pick any lifetime wish regardless of traits. You're not even forced to be a witch to complete Zombie Master LTW, since you can fulfill it by using elixirs. Nikel _{Talk – Vote!} 05:25, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

I've found it. The only key trait for Zombie Master is the Witch hidden trait. Probably your Sim had the hidden trait back then. Nikel _{Talk – Vote!} 04:15, July 22, 2014 (UTC)

Key traits

There has been a lot of back-and-forth editing regarding the list of key traits on the list of lifetime wishes. The behavior is ultimately pointless, as the one side keeps overriding the other and stating that their data is correct. So, I would like to see if either side of the issue can give some proof as to the validity of their data. If that proof can't be provided, I think the information should be removed from the page altogether. Nikel23 has stated that the information comes from the game code, whereas Sims2fan1998 has not explained where his/her information originated. I think it would be in everyone's best interest to provide this information rather than continue to edit the page to no constructive end.

So, is there any proof one way or the other that the information on the page is/isn't valid? - LostInRiverview ^{talk ~ blog} 08:06, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Using S3PE, open GameplayData.package and look for DreamsAndPromisesNodes.XML. Let's say we want to use "Possession is Nine Tenths of the Law" LTW. The name of the wish in the XML isn't very descriptive and may not match with the in-game descriptions, so you'll have to make a good guess. The <PrimaryIcon> w_lifetime_posession_910_ofthelaw</PrimaryIcon> is a good indication that it's the right wish we're looking for. Now, copy the <Id>, because it's what we need.

Now, go find CAS Major Dream Feeder EP2.DMTR in the GameplayData.package again. There's one for each EP except Seasons and Generations since these EPs don't include any LTWs. This resource keeps the dream trees of a wish (what wish will appear after one is fulfilled, what's required for the wish to appear, what number is set for the variables of certain wishes, etc.). Inside the dream tree, search for the wish ID we're looking for with CTRL+F. In this case, we're looking for 153251938, which is the ID of the Possession is Nine Tenths of the Law LTW.

There, you can see some tags. <FulfillmentScore> is how many lifetime happiness reward points Sims will earn for fulfilling the LTW times 10. Inside <Traits>, <SelectedTrait> are the key traits that make the LTW appear in the CAS as a suggestion. <RequiredTrait>true</RequiredTrait> means that the trait is required in order for the LTW to appear; if you don't have the trait, the LTW will not appear. <ExcludedTrait>true</ExcludedTrait> means that having this trait will cause the LTW not to appear as well. If both of the tags are set to false, it basically means that having more of these traits will make the LTW more likely to appear in the LTW selection on CAS. The <RequiredTrait>true</RequiredTrait> and <ExcludedTrait>true</ExcludedTrait> are basically pointless now that you can select any LTWs regardless of traits since Late Night.

There's also <InputNumber>50000</InputNumber> below, which you can change for the stolen goods worth required to fulfill the LTW. Pretty handy if you want to change the requirement of unachiaveable "Home Design Hotshot" LTW.

And according to the dream tree, "Possession is Nine Tenths of the Law" LTW key traits are Kleptomaniac, Evil, Daredevil, Frugal, Mooch, Mean Spirited, and Rebellious.

Nikel _{Talk – Vote!} 08:38, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

I need a red circle. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 03:10, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

There, I edited it. Those are rectangles though. I hope it's okay. Nikel _{Talk – Vote!} 10:59, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Gold Digger Teen

So I was messing around and I decided to deliberately make a teenage Sim flunk school to see what would happen and anyway, it seems as a fair bit of time passed, the teen's empty Lifetime Wish box changed on it's own to Gold Digger. Is this noteworthy here?--101.191.78.67 (talk) 12:42, March 24, 2016 (UTC)

Under normal circumstances, it's not possible for a teen Sim to promise an LTW on their own unless the player does it by him/herself. Nikel _{Talk – Vote!} 05:59, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

ETA: Did you happen to switch household from the teen? Nikel _{Talk – Vote!} 06:06, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I actually did change households, but only very quickly to check on some other family I was playing. Story Progression (EA's not a mod like Twallans), was turned on too.--101.191.78.67 (talk) 23:47, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

I should also add that he had traits that would probably encourage that LTW. E.g. Couch Potato.--101.191.78.67 (talk) 00:04, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

IIRC, switching households can cause a lot of changes to that household even if it's just briefly. I don't know if it applies if you have to unpause the game or not, but that's what I've heard very often from the forums. Story progression makes it worse, but I think it can happen on its own even without SP being enabled. About the traits, that would be expected though. Nikel _{Talk – Vote!} 04:44, March 27, 2016 (UTC)