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Cancelling Newspaper Delivery?[edit source]

The page tells that in TS3 I can cancel the newspaper delivery by calling services. However, I can't find such an option in the game. I tried using the cellphone, and there's adoption, pizza delivery, cleaner, nanny, police, lackey and fire service, but no option for cancelling the newspaper delivery. Am I missing something? - ZuTheSkunk 23:14, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

I have a question about Check Weekly Events[edit source]

Hi, is there a particular part of the week in Sims 3, that the Check Weekly Events are unavalible between either Wednesday or Thursday, or is this some kind of glitch, cause whenever I am like Wed or Thurs in the game, the Check Weekly Events is not in the paper, and I aks is this a glitch or are the weekly events only availiable when needed in the game? Nikolai Banks (talk) 14:56, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

I've never heard such issue before. Probably because there's just no event in the week starting on those days in particular? Nikel Talk Vote! 16:54, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Mmm so you only get Weekly Events during the first few days of the week and on the weekends? What days do Weekly Events show? I am just curious. Nikolai Banks (talk) 18:54, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Eh, no. That was just a guess. I meant probably there won't be any events for the whole week, which is why there was no interaction to read the weekly event. SimFest is supposed to be held every week, but I'm just not sure. Nikel Talk Vote! 07:51, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

Mention that it's not part of TS4?[edit source]

I've been reverted twice, so rather than revert again I feel we should discuss this.

It is not the normal procedure to mention when features aren't present, but rather to mention when they are (unless the absence is notable). You don't see anything on the page about the Weather, for instance, saying that it's not in TS4. There's nothing on pet clarifying that it's not present in TS4 either.

Doesn't listing out all the games where a feature is present by default also show where the feature isn't present? I think it's more than enough to state the games where newspapers appear; we don't need to explicitly state all the games where newspapers don't appear, it's already implied. -- LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 20:29, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

I don't really see the point in stating which features are not in the game. If a feature isn't in the game, then it should be left out of the article as it would indicate it isn't featured in the current game. Like LiR stated, it is already implied in the article that it isn't featured in the game if there is nothing about it in the article. Beds (talk - blog) 21:02, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
I have to agree for the reasons mentioned above. While I can understand the reason to make it "clear" that TS4 doesn't have newspaper, LiR is right that it would become tedious to do the same for every other feature that TS4 doesn't have -- especially when it is likely that the features will be added in future EP and patches. -- Icemandeaf (talk) 21:10, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
Per all of the above, especially with LiR's statement on "notable absences", as he said on #wikia-sims...
[17:00:56] <LiR> the only time I feel it's warranted is if the fact that it's absent is particularly noteworthy
[17:01:19] <LiR> like with swimming pools. there was a huge backlash regarding the feature being absent, so it makes sense to mention the absence
There's no harm in leaving "This object does not appear in The Sims 4" out, because unless it was a notable removal, nobody cares if the Skydiving Simulator or Aquatic Playhouse was left out. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 21:20, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
I think it comes up to notability, which means whether or not the series is important enough to mention (e.g. console versions aren't mentioned because they're not important enough?) and whether or not the topic is important enough (like k6ka said). But I think it's kind of subjective, and it's more like a matter of preferences. I agree that mentioning every single version of the game (e.g. Stories series, Medieval series, console series) is a pretty tedious work to do. IMO however, the absence of newspaper is notable in TS4, as well as the absence of home phones and cars for example. The absence of specific objects like k6ka said isn't so important, people would normally think. Nikel Talk Vote! 01:47, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
If we're talking specifically about whether its absence in TS4 is notable, then I still don't think it should be mentioned because its absence isn't notable. Ever since TS2 the role of the newspaper has been diminished (which is on par with the decreased prominence of real-life newspapers). In TS3 you could stop delivery on the newspaper, even. Virtually everything that the newspaper was used for can now be done by other objects, so it seems only natural that the item would be removed, as with home phones (if we had an article specifically about home phones, which we don't). Additionally, I have heard of no one in the fan community even care that the paper is removed, unlike pools, toddlers, or cars. Its absence in TS4 really isn't noteworthy. -- LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 01:54, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
It's interesting that we're talking about this now: see here. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 02:59, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
Even if the absence of newspaper doesn't cause an uproar like the absence of pool, I don't think it's completely not notable. We can't really define how notable a notability is (not to be confused with our notability policy), so I still think whether to mention it or not is based on anyone's preferences. Besides, mentioning or not mentioning it isn't against any rules. It's just a matter of consistency, and so far we've never been consistent about this particular topic, so there's not really any definite solution to this. Nikel Talk Vote! 12:25, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Since the newspaper has been there from the beginning, that it is not in The Sims 4 is worth a brief mention, if only to have it down in pixels that its absence is known to be intentional, not the result of a glitch. Dharden (talk) 13:09, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

I have removed the mention of TS4 in the lead section, and have instead added a section about TS4 (and the newspaper's non-appearance). I still feel including this information sets a precedent that I do not agree with. I feel that its absence from The Sims 4 is not noteworthy, even if it has been in previous games. Should we go to the Pleasant family page and mention that they don't appear in TS4 either? How about the Bachelor family? I feel that including this information on some pages but not others is going to cause more confusion, not less. If on some articles we state explicitly which games a feature appears in and which one it doesn't, and on others we don't do this, then that will breed further confusion because people may assume that since we haven't explicitly listed out the games in which something does not appear, that we forgot to mention it's non-appearance. I think the stance that we ought to take is that we only mention games where something doesn't appear if it's a well-publicized absence. In all other cases, including on Newspaper, the list of games where it does appear should clearly imply the games where it doesn't. -- LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 17:14, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
I think it's a little bit exaggerated. I feel like the absence in TS4 should be mentioned, but it doesn't necessarily mean it should be mentioned in its own section, which is why I put it in the opening paragraph of the article in the first place. Also, Sim and family articles aren't the same as feature (object?) articles. It's fairly unnecessary to mention if a Sim or a family doesn't appear in any series. Nikel Talk Vote! 12:38, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
If the information belongs on the article at all, then it doesn't belong in the lead section. The lead section is intended to be a brief summary, so to speak, of the article contents. Ideally, the lead section would not contain any information that wasn't already contained in the main body of the article itself. So including a piece of information in the lead without also including it in the main body is poor form. -- LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 16:44, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
Actually, I think the way it is now is fine. It lets readers know that the functions are still available even though the object is not. Also, if the article as a whole can be considered to trace the development of the newspaper, the TS4 section closes that out. Dharden (talk) 18:12, October 16, 2014 (UTC)