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KazeNoYouko is not in the Local list users list, but he is still here. Why is that? - JEA13 ^[iTalk] 11:29, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I see him if you only tick off bureaucrats. Duskey(talk) 23:34, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Inactivity

Why is Kaze not inactive? and in the case of Bleeh I don't think her admin powers should be taken away, since it is a special case. Duskey(talk) 21:46, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

And he is not the only one; Random Ranaun has been quite inactive as well, and don't get me started on Bob Newbie is kl. The latter should have his admin priviledges removed instantly. - JEA13 ^[iTalk] 21:49, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Inactive admins

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Issue resolved: The community has recently discussed or voted on the creation of an inactive admin policy, and has determined to approve a policy as proposed by A morris, by a vote of 4 to 0. Users should not re-address this issue again, until a certain period of time has passed. The policy can be viewed in its entirety here. 22:26, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Should we have a policy for revoking an inactive admin's rights? --a_morris (talk) 00:59, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

no

No,because what if an inactive admin comes back,then the admin whould be shocked.Also,on another wiki there was debate over this policy.--Monster2821 06:35, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Inactive admins could be warned before the policy/revocation goes into effect. Can you give a link to the debate? --a_morris (talk) 14:24, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes

I think an Admin's rights should be revoked after a long absence - I'm not sure exactly how long that would be, but I would say something in excess of 6 months from the last time they made any real contribution to the wiki (so editing a talk page or userpage won't count) - I'm only saying 6 months as a base suggestion. I would also say that if an Admin returns after their rights are revoked, they should be able to receive them back with little or no problem, unless they were absent a really really long time.

On a related note, is there a policy for revoking the rights of a "rogue" admin (let us hope this never happens)? -- Patrick (LostInRiverview) (talk)(blog) 16:04, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

'rogue' admins can be reported to other admins and they'll take action based on what it's about. Don't think there's a policy, let's handle it when it happens.

The downside of having an inactive admin who are still listed, is that users with questions or concerns might try to contact them (despite the 'inactive' tag on the admin page). I would say that if the users hasn't actively participated in any admin activites in 6 months, their right will be revoked. Should they ask for it to be reinstated it should be done so immidiately. This suggestion has a small catch though: How do we define 'active admin participation'?

Also, if an admin knows he's gonna either stop playing or knows he isn't gonna feel like contributing, then of course he should step down. 6 months of total inactivity with no contributions should revoke admin rights, with the possibility of instant reinstatement if they return. Duskey(talk)(blog) 20:23, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should put this to a vote soon since it is an old discussion. I also think that admin rights should be temporarily revoked after 3 months of inactivity. 3 months is a long time and the admin is bound to have alot of reading to do to catch up with changes done while he or she was gone. When the admin returns he/she can get their admin status back by contact a bureaucrat and announcing that they're back for active admin duty. So for The Sims Wiki we could define 'inactive admin' as "no contributions for 3 months". I would personally still allow special cases where the status isn't revoked, but this might be tricky if this is implemented as a policy. If an admins is gone for 2 months, then comes on and does a minor spelling edit, (s)he should still have admin status revoked a month later. Admin revocation (is that a word?) should be up for discussion by bureaucrat and sys-ops alike. Duskey(talk) 14:07, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Would it be an idea for a notice on the admin's user page to new people don't go to them for questions? Something like 'This admin is currently inactive, please direct any questions you may have to an active admin'. Apart from the customized countdown, a page like Bleeh's encourages people to use her talk page. The situation is the same with admins who haven't contributed for awhile. Duskey(talk) 16:23, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Proposed inactive admin policy

1. An admin is inactive when they do not make a non-minor (examples of minor edits: fixing spelling, participating in discussions unrelated to The Sims or The Sims Wiki, editing their userpage) or administrative-related (administrative tasks, not necessarily tasks only admins can do) contribution within three (3) months.
2. Admins should be given a reminder up to a week before their rights are to be revoked. (Current inactive admins will also receive a warning when the policy goes into effect.)
3. A former admin can immediately regain their status by contacting a bureaucrat and declaring their intention to return to active duty if the absence is less than six (6) months. If they are inactive for longer than six months they will have to reapply.
4. If an admin knows they will be inactive they should step down. Special cases to extend or revoke an administratorship may be brought to the attention of current administrators. If an administrator is banned permanently from The Sims Wiki, their rights are automatically revoked.

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Non-minor vs. major: they shouldn't have to write an essay. Since I'll be doing the revoking at first, it would be my preference to do a check once a month or once a week. Are the time periods of 3 & 6 months acceptable? --a_morris (talk) 21:50, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Still thinking about this, but I have a question of clarification: is the six month period mentioned in point 3 a time of 6 months total or is it 6 months in addition to the three months prior to the admin losing their status? -- Patrick (LostInRiverview) (talk)(blog)(random page) 21:58, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking total, hence the use of the word "absence". It depends on how much they have missed in the time they were gone and how quickly they will be able to catch up. --a_morris (talk) 22:05, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I like it. It's a nice write-up. Duskey(talk) 22:22, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I like it. As for implementation, if for example an admin has been absent 6 months when this goes into effect, will there be any grace period before their status is revoked, or will it happen immediately? I would propose that admins that have been inactive more than three months prior to enactment be allowed to reapply within that three month window, just as a courtesy. -- Patrick (LostInRiverview) (talk)(blog)(random page) 22:33, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

agreed. --a_morris (talk) 22:59, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to suggest a 'previous administrators' list. Just so other admins know and to keep a memento. Duskey(talk) 18:12, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Inactive admin policy vote

A vote on the proposed inactive admin policy:

1. An admin is inactive when they do not make a non-minor (examples of minor edits: fixing spelling, participating in discussions unrelated to The Sims or The Sims Wiki, editing their userpage) or administrative-related (administrative tasks, not necessarily tasks only admins can do) contribution within three (3) months.
2. Admins should be given a reminder up to a week before their rights are to be revoked. (Current inactive admins will also receive a warning when the policy goes into effect.)
3. A former admin can immediately regain their status by contacting a bureaucrat and declaring their intention to return to active duty if the absence is less than six (6) months. If they are inactive for longer than six months they will have to reapply.
4. If an admin knows they will be inactive they should step down. Special cases to extend or revoke an administratorship may be brought to the attention of current administrators. If an administrator is banned permanently from The Sims Wiki, their rights are automatically revoked.

Voting is open until 01:25, August 28, 2010 (UTC) - Voting ends in 01:25, August 28, 2010 (UTC) UTC

See also: The Sims Wiki:Policy#Voting Procedures and The Sims Wiki:Policy#Voting Requirements

Agree

1. -- Patrick (LostInRiverview) (talk)(blog)(random page) 08:02, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
2. - JEA13 ^[iTalk] 09:10, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
3. -- Duskey(talk) 11:50, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
4. -- Danny (Monster2821) (talk)(random page) 21:52, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

I like this idea. It gives formal stipulations for removing privileges from inactive admins, so that active users who want to become admins will get a shot. My only hope is that any currently inactive admins receive a warning and at least a little time to return before their rights are stripped. -- Patrick (LostInRiverview) (talk)(blog)(random page) 08:03, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'm a bit unclear on this: Am I right when I say currently inactive admins will get a 1 week heads up, then demoted. Then they can get their status back if they edit again before 6 month after the demotion or is it 6 months since last admin edit? Duskey(talk) 00:07, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, they will get at least a week's notice. They're possible reinstatement is from their last edit. --a_morris (talk) 02:24, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Position/Project

Moved to The Sims Wiki:Administrators/positions. Duskey(talk) 23:03, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Where is my Signature,on the admin template?

Where is my signature,on the admin template?--Monster2821 (talk) 04:31, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

You can go ahead and add it yourself :) Duskey(talk) 05:19, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

I tried adding it and it's glitched.--Monster2821 (talk) 06:07, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Just edit {{Administrators}} and add three tildes ~~~ at the correct place to add your sig without the date and time. Duskey(talk) 04:24, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Messages to inactive admins

I have written to the first group of inactive admins JAL, who has been inactive for over a year, and Matta jr, who will be inactive for 3 months in a few weeks. --a_morris (talk) 19:43, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

And all the others are here? It's too bad we're only 5-6 admins participating in the discussion on Community Portal talk. Oh well. I'm glad we have the policy now at least. Duskey(talk) 23:21, September 4, 2010 (UTC)