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While working on splitting [[Goth home]] into separate articles, I came across an inconsistency with how the wiki handles articles about occupied lots. Namely, for lots in ''The Sims'' and ''The Sims 2'', we have an article for the lot itself, and another article for the family that lives in the lot. For example, the [[Burb family]] article states that they live at [[63 Gunther Goth Highway]] in ''The Sims: Unleashed'', and the [[Pleasant family]] page shows that they live at [[215 Sim Lane]] in ''The Sims 2''.
 
However, the article on the [[Bachelor family]] in ''The Sims 3'', for example, includes information about their lot, and there is no independent article written about the lot itself. This pattern seems to hold true for most households/families that appear in ''The Sims 3''. The information included about the lots themselves is usually very sparse, often only consisting of the lot's name, the lot address and the in-game description of the lot. Additionally, some pages about TS3 worlds list out only the unoccupied lots, while never listing the occupied ones, while other articles do list even the occupied lots, but provide no link to any page with additional information about those lots.
 
The way I can see it, we basically have two options. Either we can take the TS3 approach and consolidate the lot pages from TS and TS2 into the respective family or household articles, or we can take the TS/TS2 approach and create separate articles for occupied lots. If we choose to take the TS/TS2 approach, we'll also need to do further research into the lots, or else every article for those lots will be a stub.
 
What should we do? -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 23:03, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::I think we should separate family and home lot articles for <i>TS3</i>, for a couple of reasons: (1) I believe it's always best to deal with different aspects of the game in separate articles rather than trying to cover all the ground in one, which always ends up making something look like it's been included as an afterthought, and (2) it makes a more useful, navigable, and comprehensive resource, for example for players who don't play pre-made families but would like to use the wiki to get information on pre-made houses. Obviously it would take some time to add and properly write all the articles, but five years ago hardly any NPCs from the <i>TS2</i> era had their own character article, and now practically all of them do. I trust wiki magic to work on this one as it did in the former case. [[Special:Contributions/137.205.238.128|137.205.238.128]] ([[User talk:137.205.238.128|talk]]) 15:50, December 2, 2014 (UTC)
:::::Just to let people know, the above post was me: my computer crashed just as it was posting, and must have logged me out, hence why it wasn't signed. Sorry about that. [[User:Beatrice Monty|Beatrice Monty]] ([[User talk:Beatrice Monty|talk]]) 14:23, December 3, 2014 (UTC)
::::::Bump -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 18:56, January 1, 2015 (UTC)
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I've decided to support LiR's measure of creating individual articles for inhabited lots (TS2 route). This is already done for console households. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 22:46, January 31, 2015 (UTC)
:Bump. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 15:19, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
 
::I actually prefer to have individual page for each inhabited lot. But I think the problem is that the content would be too sparse for a lot page on its own, but would make large families (like the Landgraabs) unnecessarily even longer. The content of a lot page is usually short and not descriptive enough. I was thinking we could make a list of inhabited lots for each neighborhood (TS1/2) and world (TS3/4), like how we handled TS2 empty lots. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 07:07, April 5, 2015 (UTC)
:::That sounds like it's a good compromise. We're still getting the lot descriptions off the family articles, while at the same time we're not creating dozens of new stub or near-stub articles. What approach would you take to deal with already-existing pages for occupied lots (from TS and TS2)? -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 13:51, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
::::I'm not so sure about that. Normally, I'd merge the separate existing lot pages into the list of lots page. If the page isn't too expansive like [[223 Idlewild Street]], we can move the entire content to the list page; but if the page is quite long and detailed like [[165 Sim Lane]], it might be better to keep its own page, have it on the list page, and use {{T|Main}} to link it to the main page. But honestly, even a long page like 165 Sim Lane is sufficient to be moved to the list page altogether, IMO. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 08:51, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
:::::Sounds good. I do think our focus should be first on getting the TS3 articles created, then on merging together for TS1 and TS2 lots as needed. - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 00:38, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
 
==Conclusion==
Closing thread due to inactivity. If there are any other issues or if there are any additional comments you would like to make, please start a new discussion thread. --I am [[User:K6ka|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] [[User talk:K6ka|<span style="color:#0080FF"><sup>Talk to me!</sup></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/K6ka|<span style="color:#0B4C5F"><sub>See what I have done</sub></span>]] 18:10, July 9, 2015 (UTC)
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