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'''Mixed'''. Well, TBH, I'm torn apart by this. I do see the potential this bot has for ratting out the annoying troll that finds delight in making people unhappy, however some people are concerned about their previous chat conversations being logged and put on display for all to see. A number of people are destined to leave Wikia chat if the bot, and I certainly wouldn't want this to destroy chat even more. In the past few weeks chat has been very quiet, and it just doesn't seem right to make it even more desolated and deserted, like a lively building whose tenants suddenly just upped and left, leaving behind empty, spooky hallways. Now let's just be clear - I am supportive of having a '''bot''' in chat, just like in IRC. Maybe a chat bot that can play games upon request, or convert external links into trimmed URLS, like the ones in IRC - I played around with them last night. But a bot that logs conversations concerns me, in that it might make chat even lonelier than it is now. I've heard that the bots in IRC do log conversations (do they?), which is probably why Wikia's on-site chat is separated from IRC chat, with different users frequenting them at different times. It would be depressing for many users if the normal chat regulars that once brought life to the chat left because of a bot. If the chat conversations were logged into a different server that only sysops and chat moderators could access, I would be in full support. I personally do not mind my chat conversations being logged, and while I do have some concerns with it being displayed publicly, it's not enough to drive me away (at least, for now. It might just teach me to be more careful of what I say). But there is no point of me being in chat if I only have myself (and a bot that doesn't talk) to talk to. --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] | [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 14:43, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
From a general observation it seems the sticking point here is the fact that the logs will be available for public view. It is ''somewhat'' possible to keep things more private, as the logs can be saved to my server itself, but that would mean I would either have to:
#Have the logs placed in the web directory and just give the URL to whoever I see fit which regardless of whether the URL was public or not, Google could pick up the logs and cache the search data and thus eliminate any form of privacy.
#Hand out access to my server to individuals to view the logs, which I'm not comfortable in doing especially if one doesn't know what they're doing. It's amazing what one can break if they execute the wrong command.
#Provide the logs manually upon request which just adds another layer of tediousness and kind of makes this proposal almost pointless.
So while it's remotely possible to keep things private, it's also impractical and unsustainable. Personally, do you think that the benefits of having a chatbot would be worth a small price? I know I'm probably not doing much to change anybody's minds here but I thought I'd throw that out there anyway.
Also as an aside, we can indeed look into adding leisure commands and other helpful stuff to the bot. It's not a big deal but we can cross that bridge later, I've still got some testing to do with this anyway. {{LabSig}} 00:28, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
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