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{{Closed|not resolved|It was resolved that the family navboxes should be standardized. However, there was no resolution regarding the format that this standardization would follow. Users are encouraged to [[The Sims Wiki:Be bold|boldly]] act to create a standard format}}
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'''How votes will be counted:''' At the end of voting (one week), each person's first ranked choice will be counted. If an option receives a majority of the votes, that option will be selected. If no option achieves a majority, the option receiving the fewest votes will be eliminated. Those people whose first vote was towards the least-popular option will have their second choice counted instead.
===Votes===
<!--- Remember, your three options are:
Option 1 - Eliminate family navboxes
Option 2 - Keep and standardize family navboxes
Option 3 - Do nothing/keep the status quo
Rank your options in order from most preferred to least preferred. Please add your votes below this line.--->
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* Option 2, Option 1, Option 3. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 17:43, September 8, 2014 (UTC){{clr}}
* Option 2, Option 1, Option 3. {{DanPinSig}} 17:48, September 8, 2014 (UTC) {{clr}}
* Option 2, Option 3, Option 1. --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] | [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 20:14, September 8, 2014 (UTC)
* Option 1, Option 2, Option 3. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 20:45, September 8, 2014 (UTC)
* Option 2, Option 1, Option 3. [[User:Beds|<font color="#6B1D51">'''Beds'''</font>]] <sup>([[User_talk:Beds|<font color="#512d17">'''talk'''</font>]] - [[User_blog:Beds|<font color="#512d17">'''blog'''</font>]])</sup> 20:58, September 8, 2014 (UTC)
* Option 1, Option 2, Option 3. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 04:28, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
* Option 2, Option 1, Option 3. [[User:EpicJoyBoy|<span style="color: #6900BF">'''EpicJoyBoy'''</span>]] [[User talk:EpicJoyBoy|<span style="color: #009CEB"><sup>''(My talk page!)''</sup></span>]] 08:26, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
==Additional discussion==
Due to the vote above, this discussion should now be geared towards standardizing the family navboxes. One idea to do this has already been proposed; using {{t|navbox}} as a base template for the family templates. If anyone has any other ideas for creating a different navbox design, feel free to suggest it now. Or, feel free to add any additional points you may have regarding family navboxes. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 06:50, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
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Personally, I am in favor of using {{t|navbox}} as the base template. As I said above, I don't see the need to create a new template style just for these boxes. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 06:52, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
:I think that basing them all off navbox would be the best but something else that I've been meaning to say: there's a bunch of navboxes for small families (i.e. ones with a married couple and a child, I know because I recall making a bunch of them way back when I joined) - perhaps we should do some sort of overview of all the navbox templates before making changes and get rid of the ones for these small families? {{WHsig|09:25, September 16, 2014 (UTC)}}
::I'm in favor of using Navbox as the base template. There's also another thing I'm concerned. How do we organize the members of the family in the navbox? For nuclear families, usually the parents are on the first row while the children are on the second row. But how about extended families? We may be able to set the row by the generation, but then again, there are still some family trees that are complicated like the [[Curious family]]. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 11:22, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
:::A solution could be sorting the navbox families by game. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 20:29, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
::::Can you give an example of what you mean? -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 19:06, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
:::::The [[Curious family]]: We could theoretically sort all of the family members by the era in which they appear in. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 18:19, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
::::::What I'm not too certain about is how we are going sort families by game/era. It ''might'' work on large families spanning many games, like the [[Goth family]], but it won't work at all on smaller families spanning one or two games. The Curious family only appears in two games; ''The Sims 2'' and ''3'', meaning if we sort the family by game, we'd end up with two rather large sections, which may or may not be a good thing.
::::::IMO, we're better off sorting families by generation, as you can see [[User:EpicJoyBoy/Sandbox#Curious family navbox test|here]]. Sorting families by generation is much closer compared to what we have right now (such as [[:Template:Curious Family|this]] and [[:Template:Beaker Family|this]]) and doesn't look as awkward as sorting families by game. [[User:EpicJoyBoy|<span style="color: #6900BF">'''EpicJoyBoy'''</span>]] [[User talk:EpicJoyBoy|<span style="color: #009CEB"><sup>''(My talk page!)''</sup></span>]] 19:29, November 8, 2014 (UTC)
::::::::I like that idea, EpicJoyBoy. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 14:47, November 24, 2014 (UTC)
{{od|::::::::}}How about families with unclear generation levels, such as the Landgraabs? Or families with unclear relations, such as the Crumplebottom sisters in Moonlight Falls? I don't think it's applicable to several cross-series families. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 07:05, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
:In the case of the [[Landgraab family]], they should really be set by the era they appear in. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 08:45, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
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This is a complex issue. The community supports keeping navboxes and standardizing their appearance, but as of yet there is no one agreed-upon standard. It may be best to move forward towards implementing a standard outside of a formal discussion, acting [[TSW:BOLD|boldly]] to implement the consensus which was set indicating a support for standardization. If necessary, the issue can be revisited in a new forum thread. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 05:02, January 11, 2015 (UTC)
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