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Throughout the times, we've been consistently inconsistent with the use of capitalization, in article title and content. Moreover, we do not seem to have a strong foundation about capitalization in our [[TSW:MOS|manual of style]]. A minor example is [[Loves to Swim]] trait. In the game, the proper style is "Loves To Swim," but the acceptable title naming convention would be "Loves to Swim." But, why do we always have to capitalize trait names? Another more apparent example is some articles have careers and skills written in lowercase, while some others are capitalized. Neither is incorrect as it seems, because we don't enforce capitalization of these terms because we have no reason to, and on the other hand, we capitalize them because we're used to doing this. Sometimes we write "[[Scuba Diving]]" to refer to the skill, but sometimes we write "scuba diving" or "scuba dive" to refer to the activity. Writing "Scuba Dive" would be wrong because that's not the name of the skill.
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::::::@LiR: I'm not sure if EA limits the use of "sim"/"Sim" to life state context only. As I said, EA tends to capitalize most terms in the game, but not always. Maxis-created life states would be Sim, Plumbot, Simbot, Servo, and PlantSims. I might favor this, but why is it only bound to life state context?
::::::@WH: I realized that "Alexander the Great" counts as a proper name, and therefore, the "Great" has to be capitalized. Maybe this is applicable to TS1 NPCs as well? I'm really not sure about that either. I've been researching a bit about proper name, and there's no explanation about "Alexander the Great" example. Or maybe it's only bound to adjective and not a noun? Because according to my reference, "Bill de Blasio, mayor of New York City" has the "mayor" in lowercase, unless the word is written before the name. English is confusing. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 05:48, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
{{od|::::::}}Bumping. I don't want the discussion to just dry up without any conclusion here. After all, this is about standardization. I see that the topic has drifted to whether we should capitalize "Sim," which expanded to life states, instead of capitalization in whole.
I notice that participants here support that TSW adopts a standard for capitalization, but only argues about specific points (TS1 NPC names, "Sim"). I'd like to hold off these questionable points for now and focus on the rest. I'm afraid some editors are reluctant to participate because they don't know what argument to say even though they agree / disagree. Should we start a voting system rather than consensus?
Should we implement the standards to [[TSW:MOS]]? [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 08:48, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
:[[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Polling is not a substitute for discussion|Polling is not a substitute for discussion]]. And TS1 NPCs are a bit... weird, since the tooltip that appears when you move your cursor over a Sim was only introduced in ''Hot Date'' and later, and excluded the last name of the Sim. This was the case for TS2 as well, although last names were added in a later EP, though I don't remember which one. TS1 NPC names are generally the Sim's name plus something that describes who they are, and TS1 is, AFAIK, the only game that ever did this. For instance, "[[Nancy the Paper Girl]]". It's anyone's guess as to why EAxis decided "Paper" and "Girl" had to be capitalized, though.
:This is just me making an educated guess, but I believe the "Great" in "Alexander the Great" is to put emphasis on the word "Great". "I am Great." Much like the "Trouble with a capital T" came about, or how [[wikipedia:God|God]] is capitalized. So perhaps "Paper Girl" is to put emphasis that Nancy was a newspaper delivery girl and not some random townie? --I am [[User:K6ka|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] [[User talk:K6ka|<span style="color:#0080FF"><sup>Talk to me!</sup></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/K6ka|<span style="color:#0B4C5F"><sub>See what I have done</sub></span>]] 02:36, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
==Reviving==
It appears as though a consensus did form here in favor of some standard. However, what is less clear is whether that standard should be towards "capitalized by default" or "lowercase by default." On top of that, there are specific circumstances under which it would make sense to deviate from the default. So first, I think we should decide whether we want to capitalize by default, or not.
My own viewpoint is that we should use lowercase by default. There would be exceptions to this, but I think the majority of examples should not be capitalized. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LiR</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 02:53, January 15, 2016 (UTC)
==Closure==
As mentioned above, there is agreement that a change is needed, but no firm agreement in which direction the change should occur. Therefore, there is insufficient support to act at this time. Users should continue to follow the current Manual of Style, and interpret these questions in their own way and in following other practices on the wiki. Over time, a more concrete style may evolve naturally, or else this matter can be brought up for discussion again in another thread. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LiR</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 15:16, March 11, 2016 (UTC)
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