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{{Closed|resolved|The [[The Sims Wiki:Fanon Peer Review Team|Fanon Peer Review Team]] was created. '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 20:26, April 30, 2015 (UTC)}}
So recently, I archived [[Forum:Fanon quality discussion|a discussion about fanon quality]], as it hadn't been commented on in about two months. It's unfortunate, especially since many valid points were raised, and no solution was ever really agreed to. Add to this [[Forum:Featured Content voting issue|our ongoing discussion of low participation in Fanon Battles and other featured content]], and the demise of Featured Fanon and Featured Fanfic. Taking all this together, it occurred to me that there might be a way to solve — or at least work towards solving — all of these issues.
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Test metabox for rating:
{{Metabox
|type =
|image =
|size = 20px
|headline = FPRT Reviewed
|text = This fanon article has been reviewed by the [[TSW:FPRT|Fanon Peer Review Team]] and it has been
<small>Rating given by ―'''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="green">The</font>]] [[Message Wall:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">Tim</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="lime">Man</font>]]''' <sup>([http://historyfiction.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Infinite Histories] • [http://galactic-crucibles.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Galactic Crucibles] • [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 The Sims Wiki] • [http://hallows-maleficent.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Hallows Maleficent] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Why I'm here in the first place</font>]])'''</sup> 23:29, April 23, 2015 (UTC)</small>
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―'''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="green">The</font>]] [[Message Wall:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">Tim</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="lime">Man</font>]]''' <sup>([http://historyfiction.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Infinite Histories] • [http://galactic-crucibles.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Galactic Crucibles] • [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 The Sims Wiki] • [http://hallows-maleficent.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Hallows Maleficent] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Why I'm here in the first place</font>]])'''</sup> 23:29, April 23, 2015 (UTC)
:Purely for style reasons, I was thinking of using an orange metabox instead of a blue one. Observe:
{{Metabox|type=style|image=Skill_TS4_Writing.png|headline=Request for Peer Review|text=The author of this fanon article is requesting a Peer Review by the Fanon Peer Review Team. If you are a member of the Peer Review Team, please read over this article and consult with other members of the team to issue a rating.}}
Also, on the subject of the categories... Mathetesalexandrou above mentioned that he thinks the ratings ought to be based more on giving pros and cons versus a "grade." I can't really say which approach would be better, but if we do stick to the grading scale, the different grades might need to be adjusted. I'm thinking something like:
*'''Excellent''' - No grammar or structure issues. Highly detailed and fully fleshed-out concept. Interesting and engaging to read.
*'''Good''' - Few to no grammar or structure issues, and any issues are minor. Gives significant detail about most concepts. Is interesting and engaging.
*'''Satisfactory''' - Some grammar or structure issues, though no severe problems. Most concepts are covered in some detail, but some concepts could use further development. Is a good base upon which to develop.
*'''Improvement recommended''' - Several issues with grammar, spelling, structure, layout and appearance, that significantly detract from the quality and enjoyability of the work. Concepts are not well developed. Work is generally not engaging. This rating may be accompanied by {{t|Fanon-cleanup}} tags.
*'''Improvement required''' - Significant problems with grammar, spelling, structure, layout and appearance, to the point where the content itself is difficult or impossible to read or enjoy. Very little detail and concepts are undeveloped. This rating may be accompanied by {{t|fanon-cleanup}} or in severe cases, {{t|Fanon-delete}} tags.
- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 23:48, April 23, 2015 (UTC)
:{{Done|Support}} Don't see any reason to oppose this. I personally do feel that we are in need of finding a way to improve our fanon content. I haven't really got anything else to add to the discussion for the present time. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 06:19, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
::I suggest we use both a grading system and a reasoning. For example: '''Needs improvement:''' Lacking structure and content; not sure what the page is about. --I am [[User:K6ka|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] [[User talk:K6ka|<span style="color:#0080FF"><sup>Talk to me!</sup></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/K6ka|<span style="color:#0B4C5F"><sub>See what I have done</sub></span>]] 13:04, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and created the template. I'll provide a little run-through about how it works:
{{FPRT}}
This is the template in its default format. This is what authors would insert into their pages should they wish to have their pages reviewed. Once we have decided what rating to give to the article, we simply input the following:
<pre>
{{FPRT
|rating = <rating here>
|reason = <reason/rationale here>
|reviewer = ~~~~
}}
</pre>
;Example
An article has been determined to be of satisfactory quality. I would input the following into the {{t|FPRT}} template:
<pre>
{{FPRT
|rating = satisfactory
|reason = Most concepts are covered in detail, although there are a few grammar issues.
|reviewer = ~~~~
}}
</pre>
Result:
{{FPRT
|rating = satisfactory
|reason = Most concepts are covered in detail, although there are a few grammar issues.
|reviewer = ―'''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="green">The</font>]] [[Message Wall:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">Tim</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="lime">Man</font>]]''' <sup>([http://historyfiction.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Infinite Histories] • [http://galactic-crucibles.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Galactic Crucibles] • [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 The Sims Wiki] • [http://hallows-maleficent.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Hallows Maleficent] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Why I'm here in the first place</font>]])'''</sup> 14:28, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
}}
The article would also be given a category based on what rating it received. Thoughts? ―'''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="green">The</font>]] [[Message Wall:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">Tim</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="lime">Man</font>]]''' <sup>([http://historyfiction.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Infinite Histories] • [http://galactic-crucibles.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Galactic Crucibles] • [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 The Sims Wiki] • [http://hallows-maleficent.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Hallows Maleficent] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Why I'm here in the first place</font>]])'''</sup> 14:28, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
:{{Not done}} Regarding the template: on the whole, I don't like it. I think the boilerplate text of the "after review" version of the template should be relatively short. The grade descriptions I gave above should be considered as a rubric when setting the rating, but not all elements will apply in all cases. For example, an article may be rated at "satisfactory" simply because it is grammatically incorrect, even if other elements of the article are up to "good" or "excellent" standard. Additionally, I don't know if I favor use of the FPRT acronym; it's something that isn't likely to be well-understood by newcomers.
:It's good work, but I think it should go in a different direction. - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 19:03, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
::{{Neutral}}'''Comment''': Does it really have to be abbreviated? It's not something I sort of fancy. And as LiR already stated, some newcomers could find it confusing. ~ [[User:Beds|<font color="purple">'''Beds'''</font>]] <sup>([[User_talk:Beds|<font color="#66CDAA">'''talk'''</font>]] - [[User_blog:Beds|<font color="#66CDAA">'''blog'''</font>]])</sup> 22:04, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
:::In addition to what Beds has said, I also find the template too long, and thus I find it too big. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 22:29, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
I have revised the template according to the feedback. I have added a 'reason' parameter which will allow the reviewer to specify the reason for the rating. Please see the run-through for revised instructions. ―'''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="green">The</font>]] [[Message Wall:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">Tim</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="lime">Man</font>]]''' <sup>([http://historyfiction.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Infinite Histories] • [http://galactic-crucibles.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Galactic Crucibles] • [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 The Sims Wiki] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Contribs</font>]])'''</sup> 22:45, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
I created a template that I feel would work better. It's called {{t|Peer review}}. Let me demonstrate
{{Peer review}}
This displays the standard "requesting review" message. Once an FPRT member responds, they complete the template with: {{t|Peer review|rating|reason for rating|signature}}
See below:
{{Peer review|Good|Article flows well and has an interesting concept. Has some minor grammatical issues.|'''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 23:39, April 24, 2015 (UTC)}}
:{{Done|Support}} - I agree that this template looks better. ―'''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="green">The</font>]] [[Message Wall:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">Tim</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="lime">Man</font>]]''' <sup>([http://historyfiction.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Infinite Histories] • [http://galactic-crucibles.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Galactic Crucibles] • [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 The Sims Wiki] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Contribs</font>]])'''</sup> 23:44, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
Also, I've created the page for the [[The Sims Wiki:Fanon Peer Review Team|Fanon Peer Review Team]]! - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 23:45, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
==Conclusion==
The FPRT has been created. Any further issues regarding it can be discussed on the [[The Sims Wiki talk:Fanon Peer Review Team|FPRT talk page]], or in a new community discussion thread. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 20:26, April 30, 2015 (UTC)
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