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{{Resolved/mini|res| {{T|Metabox}} has been adopted as the new standard message template. {{t|Parthenon}} will be phased out.}}
In the [[Forum:Preparing for The Sims 4|TS4 prep discussion]], I mentioned the possibility of retiring {{t|Parthenon}}. I wanted everyone to know that I've carried on with that suggestion, and have built a new standard message template
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:*Adding an image now omits the "File:" as well as the square brackets. It's like above, but I find it fine as is.
:- [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 17:26, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
::The idea of the types for metabox is to give a definition to each color... so blue is a 'general information' template, green is an 'official/administrative' template, etc. The customizable background/border parameters are there just to ensure that it ''could'' be customized ''if it needed to be'' but most of the time it should just use one of the predefined types. That's really the main reason I chose to implement types in the first place, as I stated above.
::As for the other points, those changes are largely a minor issue. The biggest obstacle will be adaptation, not because one way of doing it is necessarily more correct than another, but simply because it is different. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 18:56, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
:::Update: At present, Metabox is in the midst of being rolled out to the various message templates on the wiki. You can see which templates are based on Metabox by viewing [[:Category:Templates using Metabox]]. As for Nikel's suggestions... it may still be worth considering changing the syntax of the template. The longer we wait, the more work-intensive it would be to make a change, as it would likely involve using a bot to tweak the coding on each individual template or page that uses Metabox. However, a change would still be possible. Ultimately, I chose to implement the code as written because I felt it would be easier in the long run, but I may have failed to appreciate the familiarity with the style used by other templates (including Parthenon). At this point, I would support changing the syntax if others supported that position as well. Otherwise, I feel we should leave it as-is, if for no other reason than to avoid unnecessary headaches. What do you all think? -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 22:40, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
::::I'd still say to change the syntax. Although it seems minor, the difference is apparent. For one thing, it simplifies template replacement by simply changing "Parthenon" to "Metabox", since the syntax is identical. Otherwise, we'll have to remove the hash sign and square brackets (then again, it's not really a big work). Besides, we could input the border color with "gold", "blue", or predefined colors instead of the forced hex values.
::::By the way LiR, what was the metabox substitution in [http://sims.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template%3AAdmin_template&diff=535821&oldid=532692 Admin Template] for? Just curious. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 12:50, September 27, 2013 (UTC)
:::::Regarding the substitution on {{t|Admin template}}... The Metabox template is set to automatically categorize any page that it is used on if that page is a template page. These are all grouped into [[:Category:Templates using Metabox]]. However, one unfortunate issue with this (that I have yet to find a solution for) is that ''if the template is used on other templates'', as is true with Admin Template, it will also automatically categorize the other templates into the Templates using Metabox category, even if those templates themselves don't use Metabox. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 19:18, September 27, 2013 (UTC)
==Conclusion==
I'm closing this thread down - it has been a month since a reply. I'm open to the idea of making the changes as outlined in the discussion above, but it may be at that point where it would need to be discussed by the community; I don't think I'm in the position to unilaterally change it. So, for the time being, I'm leaving it as-is, if for no other reason than to avoid confusion. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 01:36, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
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