Forum:Making changes to the admin portal talk page: Difference between revisions

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''The text below is copied over from [[The Sims Wiki talk:Admin Portal]] (the "Admin Portal talk page"/"APTP"). It was an addition to a proposal to create the [[The Sims Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Administrators' noticeboard]] (which has been created), which asks what should happen to the APTP itself. Since the discussion below has evolved beyond the scope of an administrative question, I have chosen to move it here so that the general community can weigh in on it. This is important, considering that one of the proposed actions is to lock the APTP to non-administrative edits. Please weigh in below so we can resolve these questions.'' -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 07:40, June 21, 2014 (UTC)
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##Reporting a misbehaving user, or requesting arbitration. '''Only report on TSW:AN if there is foul user conduct, such as name calling, insults, or death threats'''. Simple editing disputes that are being handled with civility will be closed - see [[wikipedia:WP:DR|WP:DR]] for tips. The administrators' noticeboard is only for cases where users are attacking each other instead of trying to work the problem out.
##Requesting speedy deletion of pages, though editors are encouraged to use {{t|speedydelete}} instead. If a user has mass-created a lot of pages, contact the [[w:c:vstf:Project:IRC|VSTF]] on their IRC channel and type <code>!vstf vandalism on http://sims.wikia.com/ </code> instead. Pages with controversial deletion tags ({{t|Delete}}) should be discussed at [[Category talk:Candidates for deletion]] instead. Development discussion goes at [[The Sims Wiki talk:Development Portal]], community discussions go at [[TSW:CD]]... etc. In short, if it doesn't require an administrator, it doesn't belong on TSW:AN.
##Discussing page undeletion. Examples include an image or fanon that was deleted but the author wants a copy of it back, or pages that have been deleted previously and require discussion on whether they should be restored.
#The APTP (admin portal talk page) is used by administrators to discuss matters only an administrator has access to. This includes blocking users, deleting pages from a permanently blocked user, adjusting block settings, protecting pages, etc. This page will be locked so only sysops can edit it, though users are always free to lurk (this isn't something we can control). This page is only for cases where the community doesn't need to be involved - the majority of discussions should be open to the community to discuss. This page is for sensitive situations that only trusted users should handle.
##APTP is also used for handling [[TSW:ER|edit restrictions]], though users may suggest ERs - see below.
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So far it's making sense. I hope this conclusion will wrap up the discussion and hopefully get things rolling. Oh, and I still stand firm in redirecting [[The Sims Wiki:Report]] to the administrators' noticeboard, since I think that page is too quiet to warrant its own page, really. --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 13:28, July 7, 2014 (UTC)
 
I've just realized, I really don't mind not being able to edit the page, since there really isn't anything that I feel I'll be needing to discuss. And either way, I'll still be able to ask questions about user rights - which was really my only intention of using the admin portal.
 
If there's anything that does concern me - it's the community portal - is it just that I need to adapt to using it more, or the layout may need a bit of touching up?
 
Those arguments I made above were caused by misunderstanding. I saw the administrators point on this and I was able to understand that from the start. But I still thought that it was unfair to leave the big problems to people who had the faith of the community to handle the problems - for reasons below.
 
I always saw issuing warnings to users acting in bad faith and reporting them when they didn't improve their behaviour as an important job. Also regular users (registered/unregistered/rollbacks) have, are and always will be able to ask questions related to user rights and blocking.
 
I never really saw the difference between that and actually discussing the blocks of users, but I do now. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 04:48, July 21, 2014 (UTC)
==Conclusion==
The administrator noticeboard has been created. Based on discussion, the admin portal talk page '''should''' be limited to administrator responsibilities and things only an administrator can do. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 01:13, July 31, 2014 (UTC)
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