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 Has this thread come to a conclusion? [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 01:45, July 7, 2014 (UTC)
 :Auror, can you draw a conclusion from the discussion? If so, you're totally within your rights to specify what has been decided. There's nothing written anywhere (so far as I know) which says a non-admin can't determine consensus/lack of consensus on The Sims Wiki. I personally would conclude this thread, except that I am particularly involved in the discussion so any resolution I draw could be biased. - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 09:29, July 7, 2014 (UTC)
+Involved editor trying to come to a conclusion:
+#[[TSW:AN]] will be used for:
+##Requesting that an administrator investigate a situation/request that administrative action be taken
+##Reporting vandalism and cases of spam, though for severe or urgent cases consider reporting at [[TSW:IRC|IRC]], or to the [[w:c:vstf:Project:IRC|VSTF]].
+##Request [[Help:Page protection|page protection]], either due to vandalism or to halt an edit war.
+##Reporting a misbehaving user, or requesting arbitration. '''Only report on TSW:AN if there is foul user conduct, such as name calling, insults, or death threats'''. Simple editing disputes that are being handled with civility will be closed - see [[wikipedia:WP:DR|WP:DR]] for tips. The administrators' noticeboard is only for cases where users are attacking each other instead of trying to work the problem out.
+##Requesting speedy deletion of pages, though editors are encouraged to use {{t|speedydelete}} instead. If a user has mass-created a lot of pages, contact the [[w:c:vstf:Project:IRC|VSTF]] on their IRC channel and type <code>!vstf vandalism on http://sims.wikia.com/ </code> instead. Pages with controversial deletion tags ({{t|Delete}}) should be discussed at [[Category talk:Candidates for deletion]] instead. Development discussion goes at [[The Sims Wiki talk:Development Portal]], community discussions go at [[TSW:CD]]... etc. In short, if it doesn't require an administrator, it doesn't belong on TSW:AN.
+#The APTP (admin portal talk page) is used by administrators to discuss matters only an administrator has access to. This includes blocking users, deleting pages from a permanently blocked user, adjusting block settings, protecting pages, etc. This page will be locked so only sysops can edit it, though users are always free to lurk (this isn't something we can control). This page is only for cases where the community doesn't need to be involved - the majority of discussions should be open to the community to discuss. This page is for sensitive situations that only trusted users should handle.
+##APTP is also used for handling [[TSW:ER|edit restrictions]], though users may suggest ERs - see below.
+##Users who think a discussion on APTP could be open to the community to discuss may request it on [[TSW:AN]].
+#Users reporting on [[TSW:AN]] may ''suggest'' possible sanctions against users, but these are only suggestions - administrators should use their judgement and they can ignore these suggestions if they find them to be insufficient or inappropriate.
+#Everyone should know that both pages are not places for sunshine and rainbows. Wikipedia's [[wikipedia:WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]], especially its [[wikipedia:WP:ANI|incidents' noticeboard]], very rarely end in everyone being happy. It almost always ends with a user being blocked or banned, and almost always ends with tears. As such, these two pages should be a last resort when discussing sanctions against users.
+#Both TSW:AN and APTP are not for editing disputes. If there is a disagreement but there is no edit warring, nor is anybody being uncivil or if there are no insults being hurled across the room, the discussion should be closed (if it wound up on TSW:AN) and the user(s) directed to [[wikipedia:WP:DR|WP:DR]]. TSW:AN is for cases that have gone beyond the edits and have turned to personal attacks, legal threats, and "Commenting on the editor and not the edits themselves".
+#The majority of cases, '''especially non-controversial tasks''', should be handled at [[TSW:CD]]. Development discussion should ''not'' go on the administrators' noticeboard, even non-arbitration cases like editing a MediaWiki page. [[TSW:CD]] should be used instead.
+#While users may ask questions at [[TSW:AN]], it's better if they went to the [[Forum:Help desk|Help desk]] instead.
+#APTP should be limited to administrator responsibilities and things only an administrator can do. It's not a "Teachers Lounge where the teachers sip coffee and devise new ways to torture their students", nor is it a "Moderator's only club room. We have pool tables and TVs and couches in here." Most other things, like MediaWiki changes and non-speedy page deletions, should be open to the community to discuss.
+So far it's making sense. I hope this conclusion will wrap up the discussion and hopefully get things rolling. Oh, and I still stand firm in redirecting [[The Sims Wiki:Report]] to the administrators' noticeboard, since I think that page is too quiet to warrant its own page, really. --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 13:28, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

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