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As this conversation has been going on for a very long time with nothing to show for it. I think the following actions need to take place:
As this conversation has been going on for a very long time with nothing to show for it. I think the following actions need to take place:
#[https://thesimswiki.com thesimswiki.com at Miraheze] should be closed down as an unauthorized copy of The Sims Wikia from FANDOM.
#[https://thesimswiki.com thesimswiki.com at Miraheze] should be closed down as an unauthorized copy of The Sims Wikia from FANDOM.
#All sites [https://ipinfo.io/172.110.6.174 linked here] should be closed down. These all link to the unauthorized Miraheze copy and only serve to threaten the existence of The Sims Wiki. The owner of these sites thought they were smart by scrubbing their details but I can guarantee if I contact the service provider then the person who owns these sites will have no recourse and may even run the risk of becoming a convicted felon. The same goes for the owner of the .com site known as Benjamin Chandler, of who I assume is also the owner of the other three sites.
#All sites [https://ipinfo.io/172.110.6.174 linked here] should be closed down. These all link to the unauthorized Miraheze copy and only serve to threaten the existence of The Sims Wiki. The owner of these sites thought they were smart by scrubbing their details but I can guarantee if I contact the service provider then the person who owns these sites will have no recourse and may even run the risk of becoming a convicted felon. The same goes for the owner of the .com site known as Benjamin Chandler, of who I assume is also the owner of the other three sites.


FANDOM is a nice place and Wikia has done its upmost to accommodate its communities. Conversations such as these are not constructive and are detrimental to The Sims Wiki as a whole. This only stands to create a rift in the community and I think we all owe MisterWoodhouse an apology for the way we treated him.[[User:MarketingSimmer|MarketingSimmer]] ([[User talk:MarketingSimmer|talk]]) 20:14, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
FANDOM is a nice place and Wikia has done its upmost to accommodate its communities. Conversations such as these are not constructive and are detrimental to The Sims Wiki as a whole. This only stands to create a rift in the community and I think we all owe MisterWoodhouse an apology for the way we treated him.[[User:MarketingSimmer|MarketingSimmer]] ([[User talk:MarketingSimmer|talk]]) 20:14, February 9, 2020 (UTC)


:FANDOM is ''not'' a nice place and Wikia has been anything ''but'' accommodating. The migration to the new URL without community consensus, the horrendous site design, Featured Videos fiasco, and intrusive ads are just some of the many valid grievances people have had with the platform. I think, if anything, MisterWoodhouse owes ''us'' an apology for persistently dodging questions and failing to answer them. We have had ''legitimate'' concerns, and yet he addressed absolutely ''none'' of them. What should we apologize for? We were the ones who worked tirelessly in a volunteer capacity to produce content that FANDOM monetized for themselves. Shouldn't they be owing us an apology for being such a jackass to all of us? We are not here to be used; we are volunteers, and we as volunteers have the ability to withdraw our efforts at any time.
:FANDOM is ''not'' a nice place and Wikia has been anything ''but'' accommodating. The migration to the new URL without community consensus, the horrendous site design, Featured Videos fiasco, and intrusive ads are just some of the many valid grievances people have had with the platform. I think, if anything, MisterWoodhouse owes ''us'' an apology for persistently dodging questions and failing to answer them. We have had ''legitimate'' concerns, and yet he addressed absolutely ''none'' of them. What should we apologize for? We were the ones who worked tirelessly in a volunteer capacity to produce content that FANDOM monetized for themselves. Shouldn't they be owing us an apology for being such a jackass to all of us? We are not here to be used; we are volunteers, and we as volunteers have the ability to withdraw our efforts at any time.


:And your impressive threats to have the owner of the site convicted is nothing short of marvelous and empty. Not to mention that you are not even a regular contributor to this site, but have only contributed an [[Forum:Closing down IRC Channel|utterly uninformed forum thread]] and being [[Special:Diff/887219|concerned for our image despite no evidence suggesting that you actually care about the wiki]]. Let's have a look at [[Special:Contribs/MarketingSimmer|your contributions]]. What a dearth of contributions to the wiki! Are you a mole working for FANDOM trying to prevent the wiki's legitimate attempts from migrating? You certainly seem like it, since your only contributions to the wiki have been suspiciously to object to the migration, with no real rationale as to why.
:And your impressive threats to have the owner of the site convicted is nothing short of marvelous and empty. Not to mention that you are not even a regular contributor to this site, but have only contributed an [[Forum:Closing down IRC Channel|utterly uninformed forum thread]] and being [[Special:Diff/887219|concerned for our image despite no evidence suggesting that you actually care about the wiki]]. Let's have a look at [[Special:Contribs/MarketingSimmer|your contributions]]. What a dearth of contributions to the wiki! Are you a mole working for FANDOM trying to prevent the wiki's legitimate attempts from migrating? You certainly seem like it, since your only contributions to the wiki have been suspiciously to object to the migration, with no real rationale as to why.


:Why don't you try contacting the owner of the site rather than threatening legal action? I'm sure you are aware that legal threats actually ''worsen'' the situation rather than help it. We are here as a community working at a volunteer capacity; you can leave your legal red tape locked up in your attorney's office where it belongs, and come here without your hubris. Do us a favor and cut it with your witch-hunt. [[Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:A2C0:578:B5EF:3629:EFF9:CADE|2607:FEA8:A2C0:578:B5EF:3629:EFF9:CADE]] ([[User talk:2607:FEA8:A2C0:578:B5EF:3629:EFF9:CADE|talk]]) 20:57, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
:Why don't you try contacting the owner of the site rather than threatening legal action? I'm sure you are aware that legal threats actually ''worsen'' the situation rather than help it. We are here as a community working at a volunteer capacity; you can leave your legal red tape locked up in your attorney's office where it belongs, and come here without your hubris. Do us a favor and cut it with your witch-hunt. [[Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:A2C0:578:B5EF:3629:EFF9:CADE|2607:FEA8:A2C0:578:B5EF:3629:EFF9:CADE]] ([[User talk:2607:FEA8:A2C0:578:B5EF:3629:EFF9:CADE|talk]]) 20:57, February 9, 2020 (UTC)


:: I don't think anyone owes me an apology. I wasn't able to speak out of turn at the time that the questions were being asked because we were in the midst of figuring out our plans for upgrading the platform to the latest version of MediaWiki. Simply put, a forum post on a single wiki is not the place to disclose a massive project like that. I do apologize, however, for not returning to let y'all know about those plans once [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/Fandom_is_upgrading_to_a_modern_version_of_MediaWiki we announced them] . Since then, we've also announced [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/Community_Contract_for_the_New_Fandom_Platform the committments governing our work on the new platform] , which will be on MediaWiki 1.33 at launch. It will house all the wiki content in good standing and allow us to implement new features more quickly without the burden of our current technical debt, as well as give us access to modern extensions that would've otherwise had to have been reverse engineered onto the current platform. We should have a big blog post about the Unified Community Platform in the next week or so. In the meantime, Community Connect attendees got to talk a lot of about the UCP with us last month and they are encouraged to discuss it with other editors. No NDA. Also, [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/An_Update_on_the_Future_of_Featured_Video Featured Video has been altered] to focus on promoting the wikis and collecting data that will help build a replacement for the program. [[User:MisterWoodhouse|MisterWoodhouse]] ([[User talk:MisterWoodhouse|talk]]) 21:18, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
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