Forum:Ongoing issues on the IRC channel: Difference between revisions

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:::::::We don't need to create another IRC network. [[User:MrBenC]] already operates one called [https://chatlounge.net/ Chatlounge]. If we do need to initiate Plan B, we have the technical aspects done... --I am [[User:K6ka|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] [[User talk:K6ka|<span style="color:#0080FF"><sup>Talk to me!</sup></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/K6ka|<span style="color:#0B4C5F"><sub>See what I have done</sub></span>]] 20:56, December 1, 2014 (UTC)
 
As an admin of another channel hit by this spammer (I assume this is about TaylorSwift1989/Rob_Ford/whatever their name is - they're all the same person either way), a former admin here and an individual who has been pinged countless times by this very user, I feel I may as well say something.
 
The issue is across multiple channels. Freenode staff are aware of this user, but there's only so much they can do. This spammer uses proxies, VPNs and cloud-based bouncers to evade their bans. They do indeed have common targets (here, ##wikia, #uncyclopedia just to name a few) and I've heard they've been to one of Wikipedia's channels too - basically they're all over the place. In fact, I'd say some other channels actually have it worse than #wikia-sims does believe it or not but I digress.
 
Anyway with regards to solutions for #wikia-sims in particular...I don't know if there really is anything practical that can be done without bringing another issue into play. I'll just echo what's already said about banning and just hoping they get bored. It might sound ridiculous but it seems like the only safe approach. I don't really support nuclear options (such as +r or +q $~a) as a long-term solution as the collateral damage is just another thing to worry about. I know there's an overflow channel with regards to +r but still.
 
Moving to a different network will more than likely cause more headaches than it's worth both practically and technically. Ultimately it would just be reinventing the wheel. What's to say whatever network the channel moved to won't ever be hit by similar issues? Would this thread end up coming to fruition again in that case? Plus there's the whole deal with registrations, user rights, accessibility, community rifts and so on. Ultimately I don't think it's a good idea unless it's an absolute last resort (and even then it's a stretch).
 
As for a bot...I know that freenode has a bot named AntiSpamMeta that's in some channels and can boot spammers from the network completely upon detection. I don't know how or if freenode would consider putting it in #wikia-sims but it sounds like the best solution should a bot be desired. Note that this would only catch spammers and not everyday trolls but then again, the latter is honestly a side effect of having an IRC channel in the first place (well so is the former but you get the point).
 
Another option is to give the +Aiov flags to *!*@freenode/staff/* on the channel. It wouldn't deliver immediate fireworks but it's another safety net as it would allow freenode's staff to essentially function as ops in the channel.
 
That's all I've got. Hope you read the wall of text, because I'm not putting cliffs down here. [[User:Lost Labyrinth|<span style="color:#343434">'''Lost'''</span>]] [[User talk:Lost Labyrinth|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''Labyrinth'''</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lost Labyrinth|<span style="color:#507786">stuff</span>]] • [[User blog:Lost Labyrinth|<span style="color:#9E0508">reading</span>]] 21:10, December 1, 2014 (UTC)