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I don't really like how {{T|Era}} has been overused in many general (non-game specific) pages. I think game-related era should only be used when an article is exclusive to one / several games or expansion packs. Some things that are common in the game seem just redundant and awkward when they use this Era. For example, we know that [[gender]] appears in every single game, so the use of Era is not necessary at all. It's not like we can even list every game that has gender, because it's impossible if the presence of gender is absent in a game.
 
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==Discussion==
I agree, the game tags for {{T|Era}} should be used for things that only appear in a relative handful of games or packs. [[User:Dharden|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden|talk]]) 12:46, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Can {{T|Era}} be placed in character articles or just in games and packs? [[User:HanaGoth96|<font color="violet">'''HanaGoth96'''</font>]] ([[User talk:HanaGoth96|<small text>'''Neigh...?'''</small>]]) 13:03, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Currently, Era has no specific regulations of where it can be used. Generally, it's been used widely in articles such as:
**Sims and families
**Neighborhoods
**Games
**Life states
**Skills
**Careers
**Other specific features, such as [[social class]]
:I believe there are more. I just can't memorize and list them all here. The problem is now to figure out what kind of pages that should not use this template, due to redundancy. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 13:28, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
::The only thing that I ever add <nowiki> {{Era}}</nowiki> to are pages for Sims (I've been doing that a lot recently) and families. I think that other than that, the only other things I would think necessarily can have the era template are maybe skills, lifestates, neighborhoods, and careers, which is basically everything that Nikel mentioned before me. {{PGRSig}} 21:34, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
I don't even care about the "Era" templates in the first place. By looking at the templates we use for the Sims to describe their personality and what not was fine and people already wrote on what game objects are found in the descriptions. I think the "Era" templates really don't have a purpose anymore. To me, it just makes a page more of a "display" to show that it really isn't just a page with a small amount of info or pictures.[[User:Starmoonie|<font face="segoe print" color="#E8E000"><b><i>Star</i></b></font>]] ಠ_ಠ[[User talk:Starmoonie|<font face="segoe print" color="black"><b><i>Bee</i></b></font>]] 02:16, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
I think that adding the Era template to a topic that only appears in one game is pointless. Additionally, I think it shouldn't be added to Sim or Family pages, since the infobox/bio templates also display which game(s) the Sims or families appear in. Except for the pages I've just listed, I have no problem with Era being used on other pages. That said, a lot of the remaining potential pages for use of the Era template are already pages that could utilize {{t|Pagecover}}, though not all those pages do and not all should, in my opinion... but I digress. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 16:22, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
:In some respect, I do think sometimes Era is a bit redundant too in Sim / family pages. Maybe redundancy is not my main concern, but the notion "This thing appears in all games. Let's just put all game eras here." [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 10:00, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
::I think it's a useful template, but maybe we should narrrow down the pages it applies to. I think that an era template is perfectly legitimate on say, the 'Potions' article, but not sims and families. 22:56, May 3, 2013 (UTC)[[User:Hurshbr|Hurshbr]] ([[User talk:Hurshbr|talk]])Hurshbr
:::I think Era can apply to some 'Sim' and 'Family' articles - in the case where they appear in numerous games. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 17:12, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
 
Eh, if it's defined by an infobox what game(s) the subject is featured in then that's enough exposure. Adding the template to something that we've only seen once is pointless. {{T|Pagecover}} and {{T|Era}} appear to be working in co-operation on some pages but I'm fine either way of which method we use for whatever I didn't mention. {{LabSig}} 21:46, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
:I think we've addressed that articles using Pagecover no longer needs Era, but Era template itself will sometimes be used in one of Pagecover parameter, when necessary / suitable. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 08:07, May 14, 2013 (UTC)
 
As someone who, like Pidge, adds Era to Sim and family pages, I can honestly say I do it out of habit. In earlier days I did it because I thought it looked rather nice on the page, but now I do it because I'm so used to just adding the brackets. In regards to pages such as life stages and zodiac signs, I see them as a bit messy when there's too many (probably over 4 or 5). ~ [[User:Waikikamukow|<font color="6a2286">Waikikamukow</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Waikikamukow|<font color="00b0f4">Anyone wanna chat?</font>]])</small> 07:39, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
:I see. Sometimes it's become my habit too, adding Era to Sim and family pages. My main concern is, however, pages like [[clothes]], [[stove]], and [[Build mode]]. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 04:32, June 12, 2013 (UTC)
 
'''Closed''' - It's agreed that the Era template should only be used for subjects that only appear in a handful of things. {{LabSig}} 12:38, July 14, 2013 (UTC)