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I am proposing that we discontinue use of the "Simbio" templates, and instead shift over to using the "Sim" templates exclusively on articles for Sims that appear in more than one game. This is something that has been brought up a couple times in the past, and it has even received what could be characterized as an "unofficial consensus," but it has never been formally addressed so far as I know.
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I totally agree with this, let's do it. [[User:DarkSuicune2000|DarkSuicune2000]] 17:48, December 21, 2015 (UTC)
I also think that this is a great idea. However, in regards to articles in the Fanon namespace, would we ask the authors themselves to remove the Simbio template from their page(s), or would community members do it for them? Would this also be the same for abandoned Fanons and Fanons made by retired users? ~ [[User:Waikikamukow|<font color="6a2286">Waikikamukow</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Waikikamukow|<font color="00b0f4">Anyone wanna chat?</font>]])</small>
:That's a good point to bring up. I personally think Simbio should be kept, just discontinued in the article namespace. This will save us the hassle of dealing with fanons with Simbio, and it seems less bureaucratic than forcing users to give up Simbio. I am very much opposed to any plan that involves "forcing" fanon authors to change something. —[[User:K6ka|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁</span> ([[User talk:K6ka|<span style="color:#0080FF">Talk</span>]] · [[Special:Contributions/K6ka|<span style="color:#0B4C5F">Contributions</span>]]) 02:14, December 27, 2015 (UTC)
::Regarding the fanon namespace, I think it's an issue that will largely work itself out over time. Once the main namespace articles are converted, many fanon authors may willingly choose to convert their own pages away from Simbio, in order to remain consistent with the canon page style. I don't think we'd need to "force" them to make a change right away; if the step were implemented to convert canon Sim pages away from Simbio, we could re-evaluate the fanon side of things after a long period of time to see if it would be possible to make further adjustments without inconveniencing everyone. However, ultimately I don't have any issue with keeping the Simbio templates as "legacy" templates. We could even code them such that they won't function properly if used in the main namespace, once we've converted the canon articles to using just Sim templates. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LiR</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 05:32, December 27, 2015 (UTC)
:::I think that's a good idea, to not force fanon authors to remove Simbio, and to firstly start removing the template from canon articles. ~ [[User:Waikikamukow|<font color="6a2286">Waikikamukow</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Waikikamukow|<font color="00b0f4">Anyone wanna chat?</font>]])</small> 22:49, December 30, 2015 (UTC)
==Continuing discussion==
It seems as though there is a general consensus in favor of discontinuing the use of Simbio templates in the main namespace. So, how should we go about implementing this?
I think we can take a multi-step approach to implementation. We first focus on transitioning key articles off of Simbio and onto Sim templates - this will have to be done manually, most likely. We'll have to ensure that the information that is currently included in Simbio-start is included in the individual Sim templates, but this should be easy to do; I'll get started with a test article to demonstrate this. After we've started the transition, we can post a notice or make some other public announcements (via the Weekly News blog, editor bulletin board, and list of editor notices) to enlist other users in making the transition. Once the process has begun, we can monitor the transition, and slowly move our canon articles off of Simbio templates. Additionally, we will need to do some behind-the-scenes work, changing references to that template, updating documentation, etc to ensure that new Sim pages do not use the template in the future. Later on, once all main namespace pages have been converted to Sim templates, we can edit the Simbio templates to remove their functionality within the main namespace, but that's something we can agree upon at a later time.
How does this sound? -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LiR</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 17:35, January 12, 2016 (UTC)
:'''Thread is dead''' - There is a general consensus for the proposal, so users may continue to pursue the proposal without further community action. This may be addressed in another community discussion thread if necessary. - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LiR</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 15:11, March 11, 2016 (UTC)
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