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Line 1: {{Forumheader\|Community discussions\|archive}} Although we are presently discussing [[Forum:Adopting a site feature policy\|a policy to prevent forced features]], I feel we should also draft a separate request for Wikia Staff to disable use of the VisualEditor on this wiki by all people. Line 19: : '''Support''' - [[User:Icemandeaf\|Icemandeaf]] ([[User talk:Icemandeaf\|talk]]) 05:29, July 6, 2014 (UTC) '''Comment''' I suspect VisualEditor is responsible for unexplained removal of content, such as [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Teen?diff=prev&oldid=606861 this one]. If VisualEditor is this horribly broken, it must be disabled ASAP. I understand how difficult it was for Wikia to develop this editor, but at the same time, Wikitext is not an easy language to understand, and this should seriously be a "Beta" feature, not a "Beta feature but we'll pretend it's picture perfect." --'''[[:User:K6ka\|k6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka\|talk]] \| [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka\|contribs]]) 14:19, July 8, 2014 (UTC) Seeing as we have a unanimous consensus, I've gone ahead and contacted Wikia requesting that the VisualEditor is disabled by default for unregistered users. I'll keep this thread open until I receive a response. {{LabSig}} 23:09, July 10, 2014 (UTC) == Response from Wikia == <blockquote>Hello, Thanks for contacting us about this. As we have tracking that shows the VisualEditor to be a more effective editor for anonymous users (http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Kirkburn/VisualEditor_-_the_past,_present_and_future), we're currently setting the bar fairly high for disabling it. The particular bug pointed out in that thread (http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Teen?diff=prev&oldid=606861) should actually be fixed with this week's significant update (http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Kirkburn/Technical_Update:_July_8,_2014). In general, the VisualEditor is far less prone to dirty diffs than than the previous incarnation, and even less prone to causing changes that can break pages - and naturally we are aiming to get that to zero as we continue heavy development on the tool. If you are having continued issues with dirty diffs (particular since this Wednesday) please do let us know, and we'll be happy to investigate further and look at temporarily disabling the VisualEditor as the default for anons. It's just hard to justify doing so without seeing the kind of issues it's causing you. Thanks again for sending this in - we really do appreciate it. Best regards, George Marbulcanti (Kirkburn) Wikia Community Support</blockquote> '''tl;dr''', they're not turning it off without a very good reason. {{LabSig}} 11:33, July 13, 2014 (UTC) :Well, at least they are trying to iron out the kinks instead of saying "I see no problem here". However, they should at least note that it is under development. If they are going to draft anon editors as beta testers, they should at least acknowledge that they have done it. [[User:Dharden\|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden\|talk]]) 13:45, July 13, 2014 (UTC) ::I can't say I'm particularly surprised by their response. I guess we'll just have to be vigilant and record any problems that arise, in case we should decide to ask for them to disable it in the future. I wish they would at the very least address the disabling of <nowiki>__NOWYSIWYG__</nowiki> tags, since they would be able to alleviate a lot of our problems. - '''[[User:LostInRiverview\|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 18:50, July 13, 2014 (UTC) :::Maybe we should focus on persuading them to re-enable <nowiki>__NOWYSIWYG__</nowiki> . [[User:Dharden\|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden\|talk]]) 19:18, July 13, 2014 (UTC) ==Conclusion== VisualEditor will not be disabled for unregistered contributors. [[User:Auror Andrachome\|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome\|talk]]) 01:12, July 31, 2014 (UTC)