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Hello, I'm mhavril39 and I've been editing on this wiki, and one thing that has really come to bother me is that there is really no "stard" way to set up a sim's bio page. There are all kinds of deviations, so I thought that I'd list them and have people recommend what they think is the best way to put the information on Sim's pages, until a consensus is reached. Here are the things that deviate generally:
#'''Biography'''-
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#'''Biography'''-
## Go in order 3, 1, 2, using a biography section with the games as subsections. I think they should go in chronological order since it is their biography.
## Don't add
#'''Family'''-
## Useless, as if it isn't there, I'm sure that the reader will presume that that sim's relative was never mentioned.
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#'''Spelling'''- I think American English should be preferred for every article, just for the means of consistency.
#'''Point of View'''- Because this is meant to look like a professional encyclopedia, I believe that first and second person are completely inappropriate with the exception of quotes.
===ErzengelLichtes===
I don't look at the simbio pages so I don't recognize most of those problems. There should certainly be some consistency however.
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##Yes, indicate what life stage the sim is currently in.
#'''Family'''
##I think it should state unknown and none.the most recent game I guess.
##Yes, it should state whether or not the Sims is deceased.
##Um,
#'''Life State'''
##It should state if the Sims is human.
##If the Sim is a ghost, with a gravestone it should be labeled ghost.
#'''Favorites''' It shoud state: Music- F, Food- F, Color- F
#'''Spelling''' It really doesn't matter, I can use both American and Britsh spellings.
#'''Point of View''' It should definatly be in third person.
Thanks for asking me what I think!--[[User:Bella Goth|Bella Goth]] 18:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)Bella Goth
=== Random Ranaun ===
Here's my input:
#'''Biography'''-
## I think it The Sims should be first, The Sims 2 should be second, and The Sims 3 should be third.
## I think it should state the what the Sim's life stage was during that time.
#'''Family'''-
## If the Sim does not have parents, it should say Unknown, not None. If the Sim is Deceased, and their entire family is Unknown, for siblings, it should say Unknown, but if they are alive, it should say None. If the Sim has a child that has said Sim listed as the only parent, then the spouse parameter should say Unknown. If the Sim is too young to have a spouse or child, those parameter's should not be included. If the Sim ''is'' old enough to have a spouse or child, those parameter's should say None.
## I think it should say (''Deceased'') if the Sim is deceased by the time of The Sims 2. If the relative is introduced in The Sims 3, it should say (''Possibly Deceased'').
## The Sims 2 is the most chronilogically recent game, so if the Sim if deceased in The Sims 2, it should say (''Deceased''). If they are deceased in any other Sims game, it should also say (''Deceased'').
#'''Life State'''-
## I always put <strike>Human</strike> Sim. (Unless the Sim's Life State is something else.)
## If the Sim comes out at night as a ghost, it should say Ghost in the parameter. If they're grave doesn't exist, it should say <strike>Human</strike> Sim.
#'''Favorites'''- <strike>I think it should be listed as Music: - Food: - Color:</strike> I think that we should use the [[Template:Favorites|Favorites template]].
#'''Spelling'''- I think American English should be preferred for every article, just for the means of consistency.
#'''Point of View'''- I think the Point of View should ''always'' be written in the third person.
=== A morris ===
I think that "deceased" should be dropped from relatives infoboxes, except in the case of a Sim remarrying. If it is going to be used it should be lower case in parentheses, possibly also italicized. The {{T|Spouse}} template can also be used. [[Human]] has been merged with [[Sim]] and should no longer be used.
I would also like to see things removed from the infobox. It makes some pages too long and some articles are blank because everything about the Sim is in the infobox. A template could still be used to create a standard style. --[[User:A_morris|a_morris]] <small>([[User_talk:A_morris|talk]])</small> 20:57, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
== Based off the Results (so far) ==
#'''Biography'''-
## TIE- 3 people want 3, 1, 2 (timeline chronological) and 3 people want 1, 2, 3 (release chronological
## No
#'''Family'''-
## TIE- 3 people want unknown only, 3 people want unknown and none.
## Deceased is to be used
## Use if deceased in most chronologically recent game
#'''Life State'''-
## Always use Human for “regular” sims.
## Ghost only if their grave was visible at some point. If their grave is never seen, put human.
#'''Favorites'''- Categories before (Music-X, Food-X, Color-X)
#'''Spelling'''- Any spelling, but consistency throughout article
#'''Point of View'''- No first person, No second person, Yes third person.
==Debate for Tied Fields==
I really think that none is unnecessary, as if nothing is ever mentioned, it is clear that there aren't any. Unknown is still important because there are some sims which "popped out of nowhere," so missing parents would still be listed as unknown. As for the order of the text in their biography, it honestly makes more sense to tell their stories beginning→middle→end, not middle→end→beginning. [[User:Mhavril39|M. H. Avril]] 23:50, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:If another Sims game were to come out, it could perhaps reveal more about the family. For example, in the [[Sims 3]], Simis' parents are added. So that is why I think we should included if they have siblings. As for the organization, I just think it would be more proper to list it in the order of the games release. [[user:Bella Goth|Bella Goth]]
::I don't really get what you mean about the siblings. He never had siblings and probably never will, so why use the none? It seems like a big waste of time. And I think that the simbio box on the side should go 1, 2, 3, but shouldn't the actual written story go in order? [[User:Mhavril39|M. H. Avril]] 01:41, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with M. H. Avril that the biography/story of their life should go 3, 1, 2as it is chronological order of the sims life. --[[User:Bob Newbie is kl|Bob Newbie is kl]] 15:31, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
== Appearance ==
In other wikis, I seem to find eye color, hair color and appearance in their Bios. In this Wiki, appearances are not described in their bio templates. Now I need what everybody thinks, should we add the appearance description on Sim Bios or not? --[[User:Bayoubash|Bayoubash]] 05:24, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
*Yes, that would be extremely helpful to people trying to recreate the sims, like me.--[[User:Bella Goth|Bella Goth]] 22:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)Bella Goth
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