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Today I came across a couple of users changing the release ordering of stuff packs for [[The Sims 2]], presumably on the basis that [[The Sims 2: Holiday Party Pack]] isn't branded as a stuff pack despite its content resembling one. Up to now we have treated Holiday Party Pack as the first stuff pack for The Sims 2.
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Huh? Where did this question come from? The Sims 2 Holiday Party Pack is clearly a stuff pack. It was originally known as a "Booster" pack, but seeing how well it did, they decided to make more of them and renamed them "Stuff" packs. And that, my friends, was the very first stuff pack in The Sims series. '''[[:User:K6ka|K6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] | [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 23:52, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
:''Holiday Party Pack'' is treated differently. The method to install the pack is different, and it's not listed in the launcher. The objects and the clothing in the pack are considered ''The Sims 2'' base game, because the game considers these items as just add-ons instead of actual stuff pack. Technically, it's only some items added to ''The Sims 2'' base game installation folder, while actual stuff packs have distinct installation folders. Therefore, I think it should say ''Family Fun Stuff'' as the first official stuff pack, while noting ''Holiday Stuff'' as the first add-on for ''The Sims 2'' (making TS2 have 8 stuff packs and 10 add-ons).
:There are many versions of this holiday stuff:
:#[[The Sims 2: Holiday Party Pack]]
:#[[The Sims 2: Happy Holiday Stuff]]
:#[[The Sims 2 Holiday Edition (2005)]]
:#[[The Sims 2 Holiday Edition (2006)]]
:I've never been able to tell the difference between all those versions. The first two versions are considered as the 1st and 4th add-on pack. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 16:44, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
'''Bump''', for the purposes of determining the outcome of this thread. I just can't tell what (if anything) we've decided here. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 01:32, May 18, 2014 (UTC)
:I think the method of installing it is different simply because it was the first stuff pack. They might have simply changed the way they did things after this pack. However I also think it's best that we keep referring the Holiday Party Pack as the first stuff pack. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 22:58, May 31, 2014 (UTC)
::Well, in EAxis's disorganized mess of packs for what is technically just ''one'' stuff pack (I mean, c'mon!), it appears to be a stuff pack since all it really does is add... stuff. I don't think it needs to be treated differently just because it was the first. I'm pretty sure the developers were uncertain of whether something like this would be successful. When it worked, they pretty much made stuff packs similar to expansion packs, with their own startup screens and game startup icon. They even used game engines, taken from the latest expansion pack when that stuff pack was released (see [http://www.simbology.com/smf/index.php?topic=1228.0 this thread] for details). As far as I know, the first stuff pack was just a bunch of .package files stuffed inside the The Sims 2/TSData/Something something something, don't remember and I'm too lazy to check right now... but basically it wasn't like the later stuff packs or any expansion pack. Uninstalling was only a matter of deleting the correct files. But it was still stuff, I guess. --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] | [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 00:13, June 2, 2014 (UTC)
==One month later==
About a month has passed and no verdict has come to fruition. Should the ''Holiday Party Pack'' be considered the first stuff pack for ''The Sims 2''? [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 04:47, June 26, 2014 (UTC)
:I guess, to make it simple and quick then, let's just decide and say that they do count. ''Holiday Party Pack'' as the 1st SP and ''Happy Holiday Stuff'' as the 4th. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 13:56, June 30, 2014 (UTC)
::Then it is decided. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 16:14, July 4, 2014 (UTC)
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