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With Wikia's "Email this User" feature a thing of the past, we need a new method of allowing blocked users to communicate with other editors and to request an unblock. Being the evil and ungrateful thief that I am, I decided to steal (ahem, ''borrow'') Wikipedia's system of requesting unblocks. Here's how it works:
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:If you'd like, I can play with the template design to make them look better. We don't really need an image on the template IMO. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 02:24, April 19, 2014 (UTC)
::The current template design is good enough, IMO. It could still be improved maybe. IMO, using the grim reaper plea image to the template makes it a little... tacky. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 14:22, April 19, 2014 (UTC)
:::If I have time I might go and take some pictures that hopefully aren't nearly as shabby as the one in the template right now. --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 14:34, April 19, 2014 (UTC)
 
I've created [[The Sims Wiki:Blocking]] which includes a section on unblocking. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 01:51, April 26, 2014 (UTC)
 
:After a while of patiently working with Paint.NET, it seems that either 1. I have absolutely no clue what I'm doing, 2. I'm terrible at what I'm doing, or 3. Paint.NET's Magic Wand tool is borked. Since an image is not high in my list of priorities right now, I hid the code and now the template's ready for sale. --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 21:51, April 29, 2014 (UTC)
 
==Allowing the blocking administrator to deny requests==
After seeing this system in practice, I think it would be best to allow blocking administrators to respond to unblock requests. Having a rule in place prohibiting the blocking admin from denying the request in a way doesn't [[TSW:AGF|AGF]] on the part of the administrator, since it essentially assumes that the admin who issued the block will be biased against the user, even if they present a sufficient appeal. If there's some hesitation towards allowing admins to completely deny these blocks, maybe we can change it to allow the blocking admin to be allowed to deny unblock requests from users they've blocked, with the stipulation that other administrators are free to override that decision if they see fit (provided they give a reason for doing so). I think in many cases, the blocking admin is the most familiar with the circumstances surrounding the user's block so they're in the best position to consider the request and, if approving it, to issue additional warnings or restrictions on the unblocked user. In short, I don't think that the current system of voluntary consultation with the blocking administrator really goes far enough. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 22:52, May 10, 2014 (UTC)
 
:I thought this was already dealt with. While this system was still in development, it was suggested that the blocking sysop would be permitted to deny a request. I responded appropriately [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:K6ka/Sandbox5?diff=581699&oldid=580456 with this edit]. --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 23:02, May 10, 2014 (UTC)
::What does that edit have to do with this? -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 23:08, May 10, 2014 (UTC)
:::I removed the part that said "The blocking administrator cannot decline the request". Just thought this was already settled. --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 01:24, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
::::Ah, that was my mistake. I didn't see the text being removed, only the text being added. Sorry for the confusion. --- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 02:04, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
 
Perhaps the blocking administrator could have some say as to why the user should remain blocked. As long as they don't try and use their opinion to dominate the opinions of other admins. '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 02:08, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
 
:They do. Obviously the blocking administrator had a reason to block the other user, so it's important that other users know about it before an unblock is considered. Non-admins may also have a say as well, though they cannot directly accept or decline the request, naturally. --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 02:12, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
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The system is up and running. If there is a need to discuss this system further, it should be addressed in a new forum thread. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 01:10, May 21, 2014 (UTC)