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:::::::::For those who want to keep this change, say KEEP. For those who want to reject this change, say REJECT. [[Special:Contributions/50.4.236.254|50.4.236.254]] ([[User talk:50.4.236.254|talk]]) 23:38, July 3, 2017 (UTC)
::::::::: '''KEEP'''. It is concise and precise. [[Special:Contributions/50.4.236.254|50.4.236.254]] ([[User talk:50.4.236.254|talk]]) 23:38, July 3, 2017 (UTC)
{{od|:::::::::}} I don't really wanna start another fight here, but why are the Capp & Monty family not considered matriarchal/patriarchal? As far as I know they fit the term better than they do as only matrilineal/patrilineal. [[User:DeSims|<b><span style="font-family:calibri"><span style="color:#9d2628">DeSims</span></span></b>]] [[User_talk:DeSims|<span style="font-family:calibri"><span style="color:#804e26"><sup>(talk)</sup></span></span>]] 09:34, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
 
:I have no idea to be honest. That's a very good question. ― <span style="font-family:'Constantia'; font-weight:bold; font-size:108%;">[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]</span> <span style="font-family:'Adobe Garamond Pro'; font-size:108%;">([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]])</span> 09:36, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
 
:: The only evidence we have is that the family tree follows the male line or female line. Just because something follows the male or female line doesn't mean it provides power to one gender. In real life, many societies have some form of matrilinearity or matrifocality, but the practice does not eliminate the male power. In contrast, many patriarchal societies have patrilinearity and patrifocality. There is no female equivalent for patriarchy in the real world. Even today, in Western and Eastern cultures, the family names are passed down from father to son. Whether authority in the family is also passed down from father to son is another question. It is possible that, because the Capps and Montys are wearing modern clothes, the Capps and Montys have gone through a period of feminism, and thus, the head of household is eliminated, while the practice of matrilinearity/patrilinearity is kept for record-keeping and family tradition. There are really just too many assumptions in matriarchy/patriarchy, so I vote for matrilinearity/patrilinearity, because that's all we can assume from the family trees. [[Special:Contributions/50.4.236.254|50.4.236.254]] ([[User talk:50.4.236.254|talk]]) 12:04, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
I don't really wanna start another fight here, but why are the Capp & Monty family not considered matriarchal/patriarchal? As far as I know they fit the term better than they do as only matrilineal/patrilineal. [[User:DeSims|<b><span style="font-family:calibri"><span style="color:#9d2628">DeSims</span></span></b>]] [[User_talk:DeSims|<span style="font-family:calibri"><span style="color:#804e26"><sup>(talk)</sup></span></span>]] 09:34, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
:: I once created a family that just happened to be matrilineal on the English Tudor side of Veronaville. I just made a male adult Sim, a female adult Sim, an elderly female Sim, and a toddler female Sim. The male and female adults were matched together. The female elder became the female adult's mother. I moved the family into a Tudor-style house. I didn't really create the family to be matriarchal, but looking back, I regard them as a matrilineal family. Though, matrilinearity wasn't my intention either. I just created the family as a family. That said, it is possible that Maxis just made the Capp family matrilineal to show that its family traditions, if the player wants to play it that way, are opposed to the Monty family traditions. If the player pays attention to the last name, it is very hard to marry a Capp and a Monty together. If the player just plays the game without any regard to last names, then it doesn't matter if the families are matrilineal/patrilineal, let alone matriarchal/patriarchal. [[Special:Contributions/50.4.236.254|50.4.236.254]] ([[User talk:50.4.236.254|talk]]) 13:55, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
:::Alright, I hear what you're saying and not I am not disagreeing but just wondering; aren't the familybios implying that authority/property/power is passed on to another generation though (e.g. Juliette & Romeo)? Or is this too much of a stretch to assume? [[User:DeSims|<b><span style="font-family:calibri"><span style="color:#9d2628">DeSims</span></span></b>]] [[User_talk:DeSims|<span style="font-family:calibri"><span style="color:#804e26"><sup>(talk)</sup></span></span>]] 16:20, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
:::: I think some interpretation should be allowed, but it should be recognized as an interpretation, not as canon. It is possible to have Romeo and Juliette be the heirs of their families by letting them have a portion of the inheritance or all the inheritance. There should be multiple allowed interpretations. One is that Juliette is the heiress, because of Cordelia is the favorite one. Another interpretation is that Maxis has messed up the birth order, not intending that the players would treat the birth order so seriously. Another interpretation is that Juliette is an heiress, but not THE heiress, meaning that Hermia and Tybalt also get their share of inheritance. There is no House of Capp/Monty/Summerdream. There are only Summerdream/Capp/Monty families with player-created inheritance patterns. [[Special:Contributions/50.4.236.254|50.4.236.254]] ([[User talk:50.4.236.254|talk]]) 18:44, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
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