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==So many Malcolms, So little time!==
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Can you add Admiral Landgraab to Landgraab family tree as Kermit's great grandfather with photo from article?
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Goth family: Victor + Samuel (Gen. 1), Gunther + Frida (Gen. 2), Mortimer (Gen. 3), Alexander + Cassandra (Gen. 4), ''and if Cassandra and Darren happen to marry each other:'' Dirk (Gen. 5).
Landgraab family: Gregory (Gen. 1, actually Gen. 0 as he is not in any family tree), Kermit (Gen. 1), Chester + Malcolm I (Gen. 2), Malcolm II, Nancy (Gen. 3), Malcolm III, TS3 Malcolm, TS1-era Malcolm, Todd (Gen. 4), Malcolm IV, Adrien, Dudley, Mimi (Gen. 5),
If you're counting only biologically related and playable (as alive not ghosts like MFalls Samuel), and no spinoff people, then it's like this:
Gunther (Gen. 1), Mortimer (Gen. 2), Alex + Cassie (Gen. 3)
and
Nancy (Gen. 1), TS3 Malcolm, Todd (Gen. 2), Malcolm IV (Gen. 3)
See? both families have three generations. The extra generation in the Landgraab family comes from Nancy having got parents AND grandparents in TS3. [[Special:Contributions/94.37.98.213|94.37.98.213]] ([[User talk:94.37.98.213|talk]]) 22:46, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
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== Magnus Landgraab? ==
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:If you can provide more information about it, that'd be better, though if you can confirm it, that's just enough. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 08:18, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
:::Looking again, he already has an entire section of the page dedicated to him... Why was confirmation needed? [[User:Luigis1upstand|I'm Luigis1upstand. Hi.]] ([[User talk:Luigis1upstand|talk]]) 16:16, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
::::Oh, I guess you're right! I didn't notice that... In fact, he even had [[Magnus Landgraab|his own page]]! Kinda makes me wonder why it needs confirmation as well, but thanks for your pic nonetheless!
::::Now that you've brought that into attention, I don't think his own page is really needed, considering it's too short and minor. Sure it's a lore, and it's a Landgraab, but it doesn't need its own page because it's already stated in this page. It can also be listed in [[list of minor Sims]] instead. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 16:53, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
::::::Sounds good to me. Glad I could help to improve the wiki! [[User:Luigis1upstand|I'm Luigis1upstand. Hi.]] ([[User talk:Luigis1upstand|talk]]) 23:38, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
==An possible ultimate answer==
To solve this mystery, we had to know one important thing: Some families have some members unrelated to them, the only connection between some characters and their family is their biography (like Bert Alto who do not appear on the Alto family tree from Sunset Valley whereas he is Nick's brother).
They are some Landgraab characters which are just mentionned by some game events like Gregory Landgraab the modest teacher who became a rich landlord (in a chance card from The Sims 2: Seasons), Magnus Landgraab a criminal in The Sims 3, Admiral Landgraab I in The Sims: Vacations and The Sims 3: WA, and François Landgraab (I don't know his name in the English version, Im french) who appear as a Food critic in an random event at the top of the culinary career.
These characters are the keys of the enigma: Firstly, we had to determinate their ages, so Magnus and François Landgraab seems to be the same age as Nancy Landgraab (cause we suppose that they are active adults criminals and food critic), Gregory Landgraab who lived at the turn of the late century as its stated in the adventure career chance card, then Admiral Landgraab history is set around 50 years ago before the time of The Sims 3 event in the Sims 3 WA description, so he might have the age of Chester Landgraab when he was an adult.
Now we just have to make the connections between these characters and the Landgraab family thanks to the times clues we've found, let's begin with the Gregory Landgraab:
He might be the father or brother of Kermit Landgraab (but mostly the father cause it is state that he was an modest teacher who became mysteriously rich, so we can guess that he is the start of the landgraab wealth).
Then, we have Admiral Landgraab I son of kermit and brother of Chester. We have another clue to confirm this in The Sims WA, its the "I" write at the end of his name, so he might be Admiral Malcolm Landgraab I, father of Malcolm Landgraab II in The Sims 2: OFB.
After, we have Magnus and François Landgraab: The two can be the brothers of Nancy or Malcolm Landgraab II judging by their professional activities or at least, the simple fact they are alive at the same time as them.
And now, the moment you all are waiting for... The place of Malcolm Landgraab from The Sims (console) and The Sims: BO:
In The Sims 2, a chance card from the culinary career describe Mimi and Dudley Landgraab as young rebels adults driving a sport car. We can deduce that they are the same age as Cassandra Goth, so Malcolm Landgraab should have the same age as Mortmier Goth. So Malcolm Landgraab (from the sims bo) should have parents as the age of Nancy and Geoffrey, so the father of Malcolm is Magnus or François Landgraab, and his mother is unknow like the woman with wich he had Mimi and Dudley. Mom its just another woman and HE IS NOT the father of the main player in The Sims (console) and The Sims BO cause at the start of The Sims (Console), he don't know the main player. Mom firstly call him "Mr. Landgraab the landlord".
So, here we are my dear Sims fans friends, we got the exact timeline. Todd Landgraab from Midnight Hollow might be around the same age as Daniel Pleasant cause in The Sims 2, Daniel is close to be an elder and Olive specter is close to death. In Midnight Hollow, Todd Landgraab is a young adult and Olive Specter is an adult. So Todd Landgraab can be the son of Magnus or François (but its implie they have him late in their life).
Then, I think that The Landgraabs from Lunar lakes are the descendants of Adrien or Todd Landgrabb and the Landgraabs from Oasis Landing are the descendants of the ones from Lunar Lake.
The Landegraab from The Sims Medieval are ancestors from unknow number of generations.
I hope my post was helpful, thank you reading and please, excuse me for my possible grammaticals mistakes, I'm french and Im learning English.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:84.101.213.146|84.101.213.146]] ([[User talk:84.101.213.146|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/84.101.213.146|contribs]]) (UTC) - Please sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></small>
Actually the Magnus Landgraab chance card also appears when the great-grandchildren of SV Malcolm Landgraab and (propably Darlene Bunch or Holly Alto) are long-dead & you're in the 10th generation of playable sims in your family. Right? So he can be any generation you want. [[Special:Contributions/78.15.50.94|78.15.50.94]] ([[User talk:78.15.50.94|talk]]) 20:54, May 17, 2014 (UTC)
==Landg<strike>raab</strike>==
Isn't their name spelled like Landgrabb? Last time I looked at the page it was spelled like Landgrabb. [[Special:Contributions/94.1.193.120|94.1.193.120]] ([[User talk:94.1.193.120|talk]]) 20:16, October 8, 2014 (UTC)
:The ''[[The Sims 2: University|University]]'' [[expansion pack]] uses the variant spelling "Landgrabb", but in the ''[[The Sims 2: Open for Business|Open for Business]]'' expansion pack, and ''[[The Sims 3]]'' etc. The name is spelled "Landgraab". So the name is usually spelt Landgraab, not Landgrabb. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 21:23, October 8, 2014 (UTC)
==LANDGRAAB CONFUSION==
Okay... I think EA is like... trying to confuse us with this Landgraab nonsense. In my opinion, The real family tree is the one in Sunset Valley and Moonlight Bay. The families from The Sims Bustin Out, The Sims Console, and The Sims 2 and purely made for fun and I think they should NOT be taken seriously. I mean seriously... 5 (or 6) Malcolms' in a row? And those ugly Mimi and Dudley kids... Just stupid. And [[Johnny Zest]]... I have no freaking clue. [[User:DarkSuicune2000|DarkSuicune2000]] ([[User talk:DarkSuicune2000|talk]]) 07:39, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
:I think the developers of ''Bustin' Out'' thinks the opposite... Mimi and Dudley are the main Landgraabs while the ones in Sunset Valley, Moonlight Bay, or everywhere else is just "for fun." [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 11:34, March 12, 2015 (UTC)
==Sims 4==
Why are called the [[Landgraab Industries]] but not the [[Landgraab Apartments]] and the [[Landgraab Elementary]] [[User:Hokton|Hokton]] ([[User talk:Hokton|talk]]) 18:13, August 21, 2018 (UTC)
== Redundant Family Trees ==
These family trees have all become redundant since they're incorrect. They could be moved to the [[Landgraab_family/theories|Theories]] page but it's already closed, so I'm moving them here.
* This one is very low quality, includes some headshots of the wrong Sims, confusing and also wrong relations:
[[File:Possible Landgraab Family Tree.png|500px]]
* This is a possible version of the Landgraab family tree, that has not been officially confirmed. In ''The Sims: Bustin Out'' and ''The Sims 3'', there is a Malcolm Landgraab who is of an age with [[Mortimer Goth]]. The Malcolm Landgraab, who appears in ''The Sims 3'' for Nintendo DS, is around the same age as [[Alexander Goth]]. This suggest that he might be Malcolm V, the son of Malcolm IV. The family tree also includes Admiral Landgraab as a possible brother to Kermit and father to Malcolm Landgraab I as well as Malcolm's secret love [[List of minor Sims#L|Stella Livorno]].
[[File:Landgraab Family Tree Including Malcolm I.png|500px]]
* This is my speculative version of the Landgraab family tree that I originally posted on the talk page for [[Malcolm Landgraab]]:
{{Familytree/start}}
{{Familytree | | | | | | |ADM|ADM=[[Admiral Landgraab]]}}
{{Familytree | | | | | | | |:}}
{{Familytree | | |,|-|-|-|-|W|-|-|-|-|.}}
{{Familytree |KER| |KIT| | | | |GRE|KER=[[Kermit Landgraab]]|KIT=[[Kitty Landgraab]]|GRE=[[List_of_minor_Sims#L|Gregory Landgraab]]}}
{{Familytree | | |`|v|'| | | | | | | |!}}
{{Familytree | | |CHE| |QUE| | |ML1|CHE=[[Chester Landgraab]]|QUE=[[Queenie Landgraab]]|ML1=[[Malcolm Landgraab (Roaring Heights)|Malcolm I. Landgraab]]}}
{{Familytree | | | | |`|v|'| | | | | |!}}
{{Familytree |GEO| |NAN| | | | |ML2| |MAR| |BLA| |VIR|GEO=[[Geoffrey Landgraab]]|NAN=[[Nancy Landgraab]]|ML2=[[Malcolm Landgraab II|Malcolm II. Landgraab]]|MAR=[[Marion Landgraab]]|BLA=[[Blair Buckingham]]|VIR=[[Virginia Buckingham]]}}
{{Familytree | | |`|v|'| | | | | | | | |`|v|'| | | | | |`|v|'}}
{{Familytree | | |MAL| |HAN| | | | |ML3| | | | | |MAR|MAL=[[Malcolm Landgraab]]|HAN=[[Hannelore Landgraab]]|ML3=[[Malcolm Landgraab III|Malcolm III. Landgraab]]|MAR=[[Margaret Landgraab|Margaret Landgraab]]}}
{{Familytree | | | | |`|v|'| | | | | | | | |`|-|-|v|-|-|'}}
{{Familytree | | |,|-|-|^|-|-|.| | | | | | | | | |!}}
{{Familytree |ADR| |DUD| |MIM| | | | | | |ML4|ADR=[[Adrien Landgraab]]|DUD=[[Dudley Landgraab]]|MIM=[[Mimi Landgraab]]|ML4=[[Malcolm Landgraab IV|Malcolm IV. Landgraab]]}}
{{Familytree | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |!}}
{{Familytree | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |ML5| |BAM|ML5=[[Malcolm Landgraab (Nintendo DS)|Malcolm V. Landgraab]]|BAM=[[Bambi Landgraab]]}}
{{Familytree | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |`|-|'}}
{{Familytree/end}}
—<span style="font-family:'Georgia'; font-weight:bold;">[[User:Gvaudoin|<font color="black">Gvaudoin</font>]]</span> [[User talk:Gvaudoin|💬]] 12:15, May 27, 2019 (UTC)
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