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== ALL NPcs ==
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::IMO, sub-pages would be sufficient, and it would probably be best to make them sub-pages of [[Townie]]. I see no need for a sub-page for "Types of Townies in The Sims", as what is said in [[Townie#Types of Townies in The Sims]] is enough. [[User:Dharden|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden|talk]]) 20:17, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
::I think it would be nice to add a page on [[Create a Sim|Mannequins]] or at least include information about them on Create a Sim. In Dec 11-Jan 12 I created three Mannequins and until late 2012 I had no idea what they were called. I originally called them [[Alien]]s with pale grey skin and later on Mutants when I found out that all Aliens had to have ancestors with green skin.[[User:C.Syde65|C.Syde65]] ([[User talk:C.Syde65|talk]]) 06:43, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
== Organizing by topic rather than game? ==
I'm not sure about that. It could cause loss of game-specific information, especially given the differences between NPCs in ''The Sims'' and in later games. [[User:Dharden|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden|talk]]) 22:05, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
== Can you kill an NPC? ==
The only thing I can think of is having a Repair Technician come when there's a TV in the water and try to fix it and die of electrocution. And of course anyone dying of fire. [[Special:Contributions/78.150.224.195|78.150.224.195]] ([[User talk:78.150.224.195|talk]]) 19:43, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, this was me, I forgot to log in. [[User:XXxCrazyThingXxX|XXxCrazyThingXxX]] ([[User talk:XXxCrazyThingXxX|talk]]) 19:44, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
:Hmm, I've often heard that repair technician can be electrocuted and die. NPCs needs are static, meaning their needs will not go down even if you trap him. That doesn't mean they are immune to death though. I've just killed a proprietor by summoning a meteor as an alien upon him. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 17:10, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
== Universal NPCs? ==
I've heard that some NPCs, like the Grim Reaper, are "universal" meaning that it is the same person for each neighborhood (i.e: a pizza delivery person is NOT universal). Also, interacting with them out of their in-game purposes can lead to game corruption.
So be warned if you're tempted to talk to them!
from simsgothgirl[[Special:Contributions/90.222.255.141|90.222.255.141]] ([[User talk:90.222.255.141|talk]]) 18:23, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
[[Special:Contributions/90.222.255.141|90.222.255.141]] ([[User talk:90.222.255.141|talk]]) 15:41, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
:Some of these NPCs have been noted in their respective articles to warn the players not to interact with them. So yeah, they're not safe to interact with. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 15:51, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
: yeah this is simsgothgirl. I don't have an account, so i just post stuff from simssgothgirl
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::Sims like the Grim Reaper, Mrs. CrumpleBottom, ideal plantsim, Therapist, etc. have their character files located in the objects.package file in the C:\Program Files location (not where your saved games are stored!). Those files are used by all neighborhoods, which means tampering with them outside their in-game purpose will corrupt that file, requiring you to [http://classic.modthesims.info/wiki.php?title=Game%20Help:Corrupted%20Objects.package replace] the damaged file, or reinstall the game.
::Universal NPCs are not to be confused with two other types of NPCs - "Incomplete NPCs" and "Safe NPCs". Incomplete NPCs have a character file that's in the neighborhood folder (meaning that messing with it will cause neighborhood corruption and not game corruption), but the file is either incomplete, or doesn't have the required playable data, which means that they should be left alone. "Safe NPCs" are Sims that have a complete character file in the Neighborhoods folder, and they have playable character data. It is possible to move them in without cheats or hacks, and if you can do this, you know that the developers probably intended you to move them in.
::For an incomplete list of NPCs that are safe to play as/not safe to play as, see [http://simswiki.info/wiki.php?title=Playing_NPCs_and_Adding_them_to_Households this page]. If there's a Sim that isn't on the list, it's best to leave them alone. [[:User:K6ka|K6ka]] ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] | [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contrib]]) | [http://k6ka.newgrounds.com NG Userpage] | [http://tlaststand.wikia.com/wiki/User:K6ka The Last Stand Wiki] | [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:K6ka The Sims Wiki] | [http://www.youtube.com/user/k6ka1 YouTube] | [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/K6ka Wikipedia] 21:29, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
==Wrong NPC Type==
What I find strange is that when I was playing on another PC (a good one though), which I had installed all the expansion packs and stuff packs I own, there was this NPC Food Stand Chef that the game tried to spawn in a walk by. She had the appearance of a Socialite, which could explain why the game tried to treat her like a townie, but her name was (I can't quite remember exactly how it was, but her name was Ivy Byall, and instead of being Ivy Byall, she was called, something like "Food Stand Chef Ivy Byall").
The game kept forcing errors on her so I had to delete her when the game tried to spawn her. I added her to the "Socialites" bin in consistency with standard Socialities, and removed the "Food Stand Chef" bit from her name. But because the game still recognised her as an unsafe NPC that shouldn't be made to behave like a townie, the game continued to force errors on her. So I added her to the NPCs bin, and the game treats her solely like a Food Stand Chef, but she's still called Ivy Byall, and she still looks like a Socialite, although when she spawns on lots with a food stand, she is dressed in food stand chef clothes.
But my question is why there occasionally is a random bug that can result in generating a townie that has something wrong with them? Like one of the generated townies (on my PC) had their plumbbob stuck in their body (if they were made selectable), when it normally only appears in the wrong place for certain safe NPCs like Repairmen and Headmasters, and certain unsafe NPCs like Repo Men. And once there was this female Sim that the game randomly generated, but she was apparently recognised as a male, because she had a male voice - provided by voice actor David Boat. ― '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 08:07, August 8, 2015 (UTC)
:Maybe you should check SimPE for that female Sim with the voice of David Boat. And did you do anything that could cause corruption in your neighborhood? Maybe you have to use HoodChecker. [[User:Sims2Player|<font color="red">'''Sims'''</font>]] [[File:Plumbob.png|7px|link=User:Sims2Player]] [[User:Sims2Player|<font color="blue">'''Player'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Sims2Player|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Sims2Player|mistakes]]) 06:31, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
::Her gender was ticked off as male, but there's no chance of resurrecting her because I deleted her from the game, because of her ambiguous gender, and because she used the 18th face template. I didn't have SimPE at the time, yet, so I couldn't correct her gender. ― '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 06:35, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
:::I've just found out, the Sim I mentioned that had the plumbbob stuck in his body didn't turn out to be a townie, he was actually a Big Boss. I checked his NPC type, and his hexadecimal code is 0x0003 which is the code of the Big Boss NPCs, although the main purpose of this NPC was removed prior to release. But I checked the character data of another NPC that the game generated for Life Stories with the same hexadecimal code, and he has Big Boss NPC character data in his character file. ― '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 10:24, July 1, 2016 (UTC)
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