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So the idea here is that we split up the chairs page according to game, in order to add more information about each object without jumping the limit MediaWiki has. Thoughts? --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] | [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 13:14, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
:It could be fine. Oh, and I see some inspiration [[List of Moodlets (The Sims 3)|here]] to add up as well. Although, TS3 has more chairs with all the Expansion Packs and Stuff Packs. So, I'll put one object per Packs. And I suggest not all the chairs but the [[Toilet]]
::<sup>(edit conflict)</sup>The page throws a "Node-count limit exceeded" error if there are too many templates on the page. Information about the error: [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Template_limits|here]] and [http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:516788 here].
:::Personally, I'd oppose the idea. I see no significance to list every single chair that exists in the game that has no distinction from each other, and basically any other object classes, like fridges, toilets, showers, hot tubs, and so on. They're basically one thing but has many variations. I think listing too many objects makes the article look like a catalog and cluttered. I feel like the article is losing its point.
:::However, I'm not sure which objects may have their variations listed. I feel like objects like guitars, or TVs, or computers, are fine. Probably because the variations aren't too many? Then again, I feel like my judgement is very subjective. I wonder if there's any other solutions while it remains objective. Maybe we could just add the thumbnail to the gallery, without having to describe the details? [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 17:52, June 23, 2014 (UTC)
::::Would it be like [[Grocery#Varieties|this]]? If so then I like to support that. [[User:ThePeculiarMe|'''<span style="color:#151B54">~~.ThePeculiarMe</span>''']] <span style="color:#0000A0">|</span> [[User talk:ThePeculiarMe|'''<span style="color:#800000">(talk to me)</span>''']] <span style="color:#0000A0">|</span> [[Special:Contributions/ThePeculiarMe|'''<span style="color:#0000FF">(my mistakes)</span>''']] 08:50, June 24, 2014 (UTC)
::::Yes, ''probably''. I still don't know if there are any better ideas though. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]]
:::::I've been thinking this all over the head. So, the chairs are too many if you compared to the other object category plus the subcategories of the chairs. So, I've been thinking that we will representing 1-2 chairs in each EPs and SPs. Then, in the page layout, I think of this idea:
==The Sims==
===Dining Chairs==
Examples of dining chairs in The Sims:
*gallery of the dining chairs*
===Sofas===
Examples of sofas in The Sims:
*gallery of the sofas*
==The Sims 2==
===Dining Chairs==
Examples of dining chairs in The Sims:
*gallery of the dining chairs*
===Sofas===
Examples of sofas in The Sims:
*gallery of the sofas*
:::::Not sure if this will cover it, but what do you think? Also, this means we will have to remove the '''comfort''' in some point. [[User:ThePeculiarMe|'''<span style="color:#151B54">~~.ThePeculiarMe</span>''']] <span style="color:#0000A0">|</span> [[User talk:ThePeculiarMe|'''<span style="color:#800000">(talk to me)</span>''']] <span style="color:#0000A0">|</span> [[Special:Contributions/ThePeculiarMe|'''<span style="color:#0000FF">(my mistakes)</span>''']] 13:37, July 1, 2014 (UTC)
::::::I think it looks neat! For now, I think the most important details that this object should ever have are the names, the EPs, the prices, and possibly the descriptions. Using gallery, it isn't possible to include these details, but I'd take the odds. Using a table is still space consuming, so it might not be an optimal solution either. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 13:55, July 6, 2014 (UTC)
{{od|:::::::}}
I know there are objections, but I pretty much just split [[Fireplace]] up into subpages, since I again broke the technical limit. --'''[[:User:K6ka|k6ka]]''' ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] | [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contribs]]) 02:50, July 26, 2014 (UTC)
:I don't mind splitting it into subpages. In fact, I kinda like it for objects with too many variations. But I still don't think we should keep using {{T|Object}} for every single thing... It seems overused and redundant. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 17:48, July 27, 2014 (UTC)
== Placing items into tables ==
I know that there was a discussion about what to do with this page earlier, but it seems that there was no consensus or even action taken, so I decided to edit it into tables much like [[Television]] was done. I am not sure if this is the best way to go, or even if the change should be kept. At least this way, there isn't an excessive error node like there is on [[Refrigerator]]. What does everyone this about this edit? -- [[User:Icemandeaf|Icemandeaf]] ([[User talk:Icemandeaf|talk]]) 05:03, March 22, 2016 (UTC)
As I have suggested in discord server numerious, either we split the list into articles per game (there is a benefit to it, although situational) or just remove the list altogether (so there are no unfinished leftovers).
Also, this article should be renamed into "Seating" for the sake of broad distinction. I might just do that right now.
[[User:DrakonoSkerdikas|DrakonoSkerdikas]] ([[User talk:DrakonoSkerdikas|talk]]) 16:34, November 9, 2018 (UTC)
Forgot to add: If (or is considered) the pages were split, then we could just structure the article like how [[Surface]] page is formatted. The Split pages could use a description how many each furniture there is available ("The Sims X has a total of # sofas: y from #insert_expansion_pack, z from #insert_another_expansion_pack"). Split pages don't necessary need to have a template, and as far as this pages goes - it would be ugly&inefficient to use the template. I would propose a table that has the columns of four: image, expansion pack logo, description, size, motive rating, and the price. We could even divide the topics into more: Chair/(GAME), ARMCHAIRS(GAME), Loveseat/(Game), Stool/GAME, Lounge/(Game) etc. Just to keep things clean and short.[[User:DrakonoSkerdikas|DrakonoSkerdikas]] ([[User talk:DrakonoSkerdikas|talk]]) 17:05, November 9, 2018 (UTC)
==First Step Withot Waiting==
Yo guys, without waiting, should I remove the chair furniture tables from Seating and relocate them to individual new respective pages (which I will create right away): "Chair/The Sims 1", "Chair/The Sims 2" and "Chair/The Sims 3"?
I believe anyone will agree with this and are actually already suggesting this based on the left responses here. To be frank, the listing is empty and contributors will, If interest, be filling the tables in which would take so much space for the article If we don't split the content and relocate tables into new articles, respective and dedicated from each game for the list of the furniture.
[[User:DrakonoSkerdikas|DrakonoSkerdikas]] ([[User talk:DrakonoSkerdikas|talk]]) 12:06, November 19, 2018 (UTC)
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