Talk:Unborn baby Monty: Difference between revisions

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Picture was restored upon my request. But I can honestly say that I'm done with it.
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m (Picture was restored upon my request. But I can honestly say that I'm done with it.)
 
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I don't know why but for some reason I want to see that image again. But of course it would then have to be restored. '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 07:14, June 14, 2014 (UTC)
[[File:Fake baby Monty.png|thumb]]
:Here. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 07:48, June 14, 2014 (UTC)
 
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:We can't usually tell the intent of a user's edits, but we should always [[TSW:AGF|assume good faith]] if there's no sign of malicious intent. After all, it's not uncommon for people to post images of "how a Sim would look like after they grow up at certain age". [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 15:04, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
 
I'm sure the person uploading the image was acting in good faith. But I still don't know how the user came to think to put the image there to represent [[Unborn Baby Monty]]. Other than the fact that [[Package editor#SimPE|SimPE]] and the individual Sim's [[Genetics|genetics]] / facial structures weren't as commercially well known at the time it was uploaded. '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 04:17, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
 
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: Well, that is true about [[Unborn Baby Broke]] because that is the nature of single-mother births in TS2. I just reviewed the information that you had about the parent's genes and see what you mean that the baby will have those expressed genes regardless of what randomness the game gives. Hmm... Something to think about. - [[User:Icemandeaf|Icemandeaf]] ([[User talk:Icemandeaf|talk]]) 23:37, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
 
And the image of [[Tycho Curious]]? That's something to think about. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 23:39, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
 
: That one, I'm not convinced with personally. The article even says that it is possible for other looks, such as the skintone being like Pascal's. If it were the image used within the PSP game, then I might be more convinced. But I think that is a different matter because it starts to get into information about the character within cannon. - [[User:Icemandeaf|Icemandeaf]] ([[User talk:Icemandeaf|talk]]) 23:44, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
 
Well in that case I think we should still keep that image I uploaded, because it's possible for other looks in the [[Unborn Baby Monty]]'s case. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 23:51, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
 
<blockquote class="note">The way I see it - it's better having a head-shot that depicts what the baby would potentially have looked like, than simply having no head-shot.</blockquote>
 
:I disagree. Some things cannot be represented visually. It's as if I'm trying to find a red autumn leaf, but I can't find any in my place, so I paint / photoshop it and claim it so. That's wrong because it's not and it's made up. Don't force making up things if it's not particularly genuine. Hence, I disagree if we use the generic blue silhouette baby picture to represent the unborn babies, because what for, to be specific?
 
:I thought the image of Tycho Curious was removed? Or at least, I thought it used to be. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 08:08, July 12, 2014 (UTC)
 
I agree with what Nikel said about the silhouette. We shouldn't use the generic blue silhouette baby picture because we can't see what the baby looks like and thus it isn't specific. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 08:16, July 12, 2014 (UTC)
 
:It was just a thought of giving a image to an unborn baby without implying that the baby will definitely look a certain way, but I see your point now.
 
:As far as Tycho Curious goes, there is an image there. - [[User:Icemandeaf|Icemandeaf]] ([[User talk:Icemandeaf|talk]]) 15:36, July 12, 2014 (UTC)
 
And I take it, we can keep the image that I uploaded. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 22:21, July 13, 2014 (UTC)
:Actually, my argument wasn't only about the silhouette, but also about the current headshot in this article. But I guess your explanation made sense... It seems right that the baby's appearance will almost look like that. As for whether to keep it or not, I'm not sure. Maybe we can keep it. I'm against it, but I don't have any strong arguments to oppose it. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 08:01, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
 
Just a note, I was kinda aware that your argument wasn't only about the silhouette.
 
I've performed like fifty genetic tests and each of them had the same result - black hair, brown eyes and medium skin. So I guess that it's right that the baby's appearance will look '''exactly''' like that. But I think I understand your point as well. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 22:04, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
 
== A thing I never knew... ==
 
For a while, I've wondered how people know of the Unborn Baby Monty's existence. I've heard that Olivia isn't pregnant if she is resurrected and the baby seemingly doesn't exist in the game. The only way I can think of is that Olivia's body type is recognized as that of a pregnant person in SimPE. Would somebody explain this thing to me? [[User:OoppDecks|OoppDecks]] ([[User talk:OoppDecks|talk]]) 21:59, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 
:It's unclear whether the baby really existed, but because Olivia's body type is recognized as that of a pregnant person, we can safely assume that the baby was originally supposed to exist. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 22:05, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 
::Olivia Monty's biography mentions her pregnancy. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 22:15, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 
:::Oh, okay. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] &#124; [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 22:28, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
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