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Ok, so after eight people have weighed in, we have 4 in support of eliminating a color difference, two in favor of making the colors similar but not identical, and two who don't really care.
Personally, I think adopting the 'similar but not identical' color scheme is a good compromise. If we make the colors similar it could help to mitigate a lot of confusion while still keeping the highlight there.
Here's an example of the coloring I'm thinking of:
<p style="color:#337800;">'''Current Bureaucrat'''</p>
<p style="color:#6FA12E;">'''Proposed Administrator'''</p>
Thoughts? -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 05:42, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
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Overall, we did better in July than we did in June, despite June being a historically strong month. I'm sure ''[[The Sims 3: Island Paradise|Island Paradise]]'' releasing late in June did more to help July's figures than it helped June's. When you look at the year-to-year comparison, you'll see that this July was behind last July, though not dramatically so, especially when you discount the drop in number of content articles due to the player stories delete.
On the subject of the player stories delete, August 2012's statistics were taken after the drop in articles, meaning next month's comparison will be more meaningful than the months prior.
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::: I personally feel similar to most admins here. I think that it should be fair that users who aren't admins can still give warnings to other users although it does have its downsides. Users may take this tool for granted and overuse it on users who've barely done anything wrong. Other that that I think that it would be handy for users to show off their quick eye to spot things. {{JasonSignature}}
::::I would be in support of allowing rollbackers to issue level 1 and 2 warnings, because they have gone through the RfR process and can be trusted to make good decisions. For regular users though, I'm not quite as willing to give them this ability. Yes, I understand that abuse of the template can be easily reverted and the user dealt with, but I wouldn't want another user to become the victim of a fake warning message and have them not want to return to the wiki ever again. ~ [[User:Waikikamukow|<font color="6a2286">Waikikamukow</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Waikikamukow|<font color="00b0f4">Anyone wanna chat?</font>]])</small>
From the discussion, it is pretty clear that everyone here is in agreement with allowing rollbackers to issue level 1 and 2 warnings (notifying an administrator if they issue a level 2 warning, of course). As for allowing regular users to do so, it is pretty unclear. Some say we should Assume Good Faith and allow them this opportunity, however, some are standing by the reason of these users may take this opportunity for granted. However, we can bring this topic in another discussion.
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==Making year-end goals==
I know I am not alone in being dissatisfied with the course of community discussions in the forums as of late. Most of the time, major proposals seem to only get discussed by the administrators, or else receive just token input from one or two non-admins. Even matters that largely affect non-admins seem not to catch the interest of non-administrators here on the wiki.
My intent in creating this section is not to complain about the problem, nor is it to postulate on possible solutions. Instead, I want to put forward ideas and I want to set goals. I don't want to pursue community consensus on these things (yet), but I do want to get these ideas out there and get them talked about. I want to be able to work out an idea with the administrators here, polish it, and then present it to the community at-large. And, if the community is apathetic, I want to implement these goals.
Community consensus is a cornerstone of the wiki, but at this point it seems to be holding us back. Discussions about important subjects fail to get off the ground, and that makes even obvious decisions harder to make. At some point, we as admins have to take a proactive approach and implement changes '''boldly''', so long as they don't change long-standing precedents or established rules. I can think of some changes that we've made unilaterally in the past - re-arranging the main page, creating new wiki themes, activating or de-activating features - that were done with little or no community discussion.
Ultimately, we as admins strive to include the community in decisions that affect the community. That's a great thing, to a point. I feel like we've reached a point where we involve the community in matters that they might not care about, with the end result being us locked into a discussion that goes nowhere because no one except admins and a few rare non-admins actually care all that much about the outcome. Maybe it's time to be bolder.
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So, what I'm going to do is list out a few of my prospective goals for the rest of the year. I'm not looking for support or opposition, or even feedback. I just want to see what your goals are. And I want all of us to keep looking at this list, and to keep adding goals to this list, even if they've already been added before by someone else! And when we match up goals, we can start working together to implement them, be it through the creation of new categories, pages or templates, or the beginning of a new wiki discussion, or whatever, we will be able to find other administrators who also share our goals (or have other awesome goals we had never even considered) and we can ultimately work together to start making these ideas reality! I know this might sound kinda hokey, but I really do think it could be useful.
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# - Restructure wiki Policies, including a rewrite of general wiki policies. Formalize the relationship between Policies and simple guidelines, and firmly establish AGF and other "guidelines" as acceptable policy on TSW.
# - Create a process for highlighting well-written user blogs. Create new categories for user blogs. Possibly feature these blogs somewhere on the main page.
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:That's more than I thought I had. {{LabSig}} 18:52, November 4, 2013 (UTC)
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