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== Layout Builder ==
 
I have noticed as of late that some users have been creating fanon articles using [[Special:LayoutBuilder|the Layout Builder]], which makes it very hard for both users and admins to cleanup those articles in addition to it being hard for a user to write a high quality piece of fanon with the Layout Builder. Personally, I think that we should uninstall the Layout Builder (as it is rarely used anyway) to make it easier to patrol fanon amongst any other articles created on the wiki. What does everyone think? {{GGsigLabSig}} 18:42, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
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{{VoteFor}} - '''Weak Support''' - While I think they could be disabled (as it has been causing major damage on pages who use it) I don't know what we should do to pages that use them, delete them and recreate without the layout? --[[User:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">Guilherme Guerreiro</span>]][[File:Thanks rose.png]]([[User talk:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">talk here</span>]]) 19:05, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
:Is there any way to make the layout builder more user-friendly, rather than just disabling it. -- {{unsigned|LostInRiverview}} 20:41, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
::Since posting this, I have tried to think of a possible way of making the Layout Builder more user-friendly without causing collateral damage to those articles that already use it. Given that I haven't used the tool, I'm kind of unsure how it works but if anyone here has used it, here or another wiki, and they have an idea, feel free to post it. {{GGsigLabSig}} 20:46, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
:::If we disable it, we should recreate the pages rather than delete them, as most are only poor quality through the layout builder. But I feel the decision to uninstall it is best. --'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="black">W</font>]][[User_blog:Woganhemlock|<font color="orange">H</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(talk)</font>]]</sup>''' 23:19, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
::::This has been pending for a while, has anyone come up with a solution? Thank you. --[[User:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">Guilherme Guerreiro</span>]][[File:Thanks rose.png]] <small>([[User talk:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">talk here</span>]])</small> 18:54, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
:::::Sadly, I'm not sure if there is a way we can resolve this without causing quite a bit of collateral damage. Saying that, there doesn't seem to be a way that we can stop a fanon article from being made on the Layout Builder. I guess we'll just have to put up with it... {{GGsigLabSig}} 19:02, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
 
==New background==
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:It's good, but I'll have to agree with Bob here. I think it would be best if we kept the current one, but it would be cool if we could still find a use for this one somewhere. ~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font color="black">ฬ</font><font color="orange">ђ</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(tคlк</font>]] ★ [[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">ς๏ภtгเ๒ร)</font>]]'''</sup> 05:40, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
::Well, I did just find out how to give certain namespaces custom skins. Maybe we could use the design for the Fanon Namespace? —[[User:Random Ranaun|<font color="#008000">Random Ranaun</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Random Ranaun|<font color="#00FF00">Talk to me!</font>]])</sup> 10:00, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
:::It doesn't sound like a bad idea. I was thinking that we could just publish the raw CSS code and if a user wants to make usage of RR's background, they could copy it to their own personal CSS, that way we have a deafult background and an optional background. {{GGsigLabSig}} 23:23, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
::::I doubt the CSS code option would work, mainly because a lot of users a), won't probably be aware of the code, and b) might not know about CSS (no joke, took me 2 and a half months to work out what it is). As for using it on a specific namespace, it could get kinda odd having different skins, so I'm not sure about it. I might have a think about it and see if I can do anything with it. ~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font color="black">ฬ</font><font color="orange">ђ</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(tคlк</font>]] ★ [[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">ς๏ภtгเ๒ร)</font>]]'''</sup> 10:19, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 
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:Sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but that wiki seems a little redundant. After all, we already have an [[The Sims Wiki:Fanon Portal|area on the wiki specifically for fan creations]]. —[[User:Random Ranaun|<font color="#008000">Random Ranaun</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Random Ranaun|<font color="#00FF00">Talk to me!</font>]])</sup> 06:26, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
::My opinion is that of Random Ranaun. Sorry. ~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font color="black">ฬ</font><font color="orange">ђ</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(tคlк</font>]] ★ [[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">ς๏ภtгเ๒ร)</font>]]</sup>''' 07:27, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
:::Per RR. Sorry. {{GGsigLabSig}} 09:50, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
::::I do also think it's redundant. While good intended, this wiki may as well decline our popularity on the fanon namespace, and that would be awful. Excuse me, I don't want to hurt you but I don't think a partnership is the best option. --[[User:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">Guilherme Guerreiro</span>]][[File:Thanks rose.png]]([[User talk:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">talk here</span>]]) 00:49, July 18, 2011 (UTC)
 
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====Disagree====
#I feel that The Sims Players Wiki is redundant, given that we have our own Fanon namespace. {{GGsigLabSig}} 10:07, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
#I'm sorry to say but GEORGIEGIBBONS is right. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge lime; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(lime), to(navy)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, turqouise, pink); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em yellow; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em red; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:brown">[[User:Vss2eip|''<span style="color: #ffff00; font-family:verdana; text-shadow: #000000 0 1px 1px;">VP</span>'']] [[User talk:Vss2eip|<sup>''<span style="color:#ffff00; font-family:verdana">Talk</span>''</sup>]]</span> 12:11, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
#Per the above. ~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font color="black">ฬ</font><font color="orange">ђ</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(tคlк</font>]] ★ [[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">ς๏ภtгเ๒ร)</font>]]</sup>''' 10:12, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
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====Conclusion====
Based on community consenseus, {{SITENAME}} will not form a partnership with The Sims Players Wiki. {{GGsigLabSig}} 03:26, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
== Chat ban templates ==
 
I have created two draft templates in my userspace which can help us control bans from [[Special:Chat|The Sims Wiki Chat]]. One of the templates is for a [[User:GEORGIEGIBBONS/banned from chat template|short ban]] from Chat while the second template is for a [[User:GEORGIEGIBBONS/perma banned from chat template|permanent ban]] from Chat. As you can see, I have based it on the blocked template (we can always change the image) and what you're currently seeing may not be final and the pages are unprotected, so anyone can go and constructively tweak as they wish. I would like to know what the community thinks of this idea, so we can decide whether to implement this system or not. {{GGsigLabSig}} 22:40, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
:I completely agree I think they should be implemented. --[[User:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">Guilherme Guerreiro</span>]][[File:Thanks rose.png]] <small>([[User talk:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">talk here</span>]])</small> 22:42, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
::In addition to what I've mentioned above, I have sent in a suggestion to Wikia to add a system where we can set a time limit for someone to be banned and it would automatically unban the user once the time is up, in the same fashion as a temporary block. {{GGsigLabSig}} 22:47, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
:::Nice work on the templates :) They're a good idea, as id the tempblock thing, let's hope wikia does it. ~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font color="black">ฬ</font><font color="orange">ђ</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(tคlк</font>]] ★ [[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">ς๏ภtгเ๒ร)</font>]]</sup>''' 01:52, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
::::I agree. We already had some problems with that. [[User:Vss2eip|Vss2eip]] 11:38, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
:::::Seeing as there has been no opposition, I have created the templates for official use. [[Template:Tempchatban|This template]] is for a temporary ban while [[Template:Indefchatban|this one]] is for a permanent ban. The drafts are still in my userspace if anyone wants to play around, make improvements etc. {{GGsigLabSig}} 19:52, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
 
== Admin Highlighting ==
 
Hiya guys. I was just looking around other wikis and noiced they use css code to highlight their admins usernames, making it easier for users to find them. I propose we introduce such a system here. If anyone wants to see what I am proposing, copy my [[User:Woganhemlock/wikia.css|presonal css]] into yours and clear your cache. Thoughts? ~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font color="black">ฬ</font><font color="orange">ђ</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(tคlк</font>]] ★ [[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">ς๏ภtгเ๒ร)</font>]]</sup>''' 01:53, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
:I have the same code in [[User:GEORGIEGIBBONS/wikia.css|my personal CSS]] too and it doesn't seem to conflict with anything, so if you set your signature to be a different colour from your rank, the signature would be unaffected. [http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110723205015/nothingherethatsspecial/images/thumb/4/46/Css.PNG/640px-Css.PNG This image] shows what it looks like with the admins and bureaucrats highlighted. {{GGsigLabSig}} 01:55, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
::Sorry for my silly question... but I'm just wondering where will the names be visible if we highlight them using the wikia.css? Is the main purpose for that as a color distinction? {{NikelSign}} 09:04, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
:::The names will be highlighted wherever there is a link to a user's page which is not designated as another colour, e.g. [[User:Woganhemlock|this link]] would be coloured but my sig text wouldn't. It's basically just a colour distinction. ~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font color="black">ฬ</font><font color="orange">ђ</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(tคlк</font>]] ★ [[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">ς๏ภtгเ๒ร)</font>]]</sup>''' 09:14, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
::::Hmm... for me, it doesn't really have much point, as it will be most used in [[Special:WikiActivity]], and I don't see it really useful, as users other than newly ones will recognize who are the admins here. Also, too many colors may make users color-confused. But if this feature is applied, I think only admins need their names highlighted. {{NikelSign}} 09:40, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
:::::The only users who would have had their usernames highlighted would have been the admins and bureaucrats. I've had it enabled in my personal CSS for quite a few days now and it seems to work fine for me but hey, everyone has their own opinion. :P {{GGsigLabSig}} 20:21, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
===Consensus===
Seeing as this has been sitting here for a while now, I feel that we should start to gain community consenseus over whether to highlight the usernames of admins/bureaucrats for the whole wiki (by adding the code to [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]). {{GGsigLabSig}} 20:11, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
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{{VoteFor}}'''Support''' - I feel that it is easier for new users to find help from admins/bureaucrats if we implement this system. Plus the CSS code doesn't interfere with customised signatures. {{GGsigLabSig}} 20:11, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
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{{VoteFor}}'''Support''' - Per Georgie. [[User:DanPin|<span style="color: #74BBFB; font-family:Microsoft Sans Serif; text-shadow: #74BBFB 0 1px 1px;">DanPin</span>]] ([[User talk:DanPin|<span style="color:#74BBFB; font-family:Microsoft Sans Serif">Talk</span>]]) 20:16, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
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==Featured Blog Post==
I was just thinking, and seeing that this wiki is reaching big popularity, why not feature a blog post every month or so. Nominate, I don't know, let's say randomly "The Sims 3 Pets is Announced" or something else (similar to the featured article and battles/nominations page) and then put it on the main page (this actually is not at all necessary, just a suggestion). Or do we just have to much "featured" stuff? What do you think? [[User:Vss2eip|<font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;">'''Vss2eip'''</span></font>]][[User_talk:Vss2eip|<span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;"><sup>''talk here''</sup></span>]] 20:26, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
:I'm not too sure to be honest as we get all different kinds of blogs written here. Also, an announcement/release blog usually appears on the main page anyway per the [[:Category:Blog posts/Sims News|News category]] for [[The Sims series]]. {{GGsigLabSig}} 20:29, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
::Then it hasn't have to be that. It can be like yours."Don't install Sims 3 if you have intel whatever..."? [[User:Vss2eip|<font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;">'''Vss2eip'''</span></font>]][[User_talk:Vss2eip|<span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;"><sup>''talk here''</sup></span>]] 20:31, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
:::I like this idea in theory... the issue is we use blogs not only on a personal level, but also in an official "news" capacity. It we implemented a featured blog, we would need to make sure that news blogs don't get selected, since I don't think they're really what we'd be going for here. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 20:42, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
::::I did some further thinking on this and I think that it could work. Plus it may encourage other users to write a blog that could potentially be featured, like a help blog or something. {{GGsigLabSig}} 20:48, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
:::::Well, while this is a good idea, I don't think there's enough blog posts out there that aren't sim news or wiki updates. I think it's a good idea, but I don't know if it would work on a wiki with not many blog posts made. ~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font color="black">ฬ</font><font color="orange">ђ</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="silver">(Ŧlยttєгรђא</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">ƒтω!)</font>]]</sup>''' 11:02, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
::::::Hmm... I don't really support this idea very much... However, it could be a good idea to popularize a blog. Blogs being nominated mean free advertisement, which will make users wonder and curious to read the blog. If the point of blog is so... {{NikelSign}} 12:16, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
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:::I agree, to a certain extent, with Guilherme. I don't think we should be a blog-hosting site for blogs which are unrelated to ''The Sims'' series of games (including games like ''The Sims Medieval'' and others which don't fall within the main series of games). As for blog posts related to wiki events... I'm not sure that anyone other than administrators would even write a blog for that purpose, and if they did, it would likely fall under the category of a news or community update blog. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 23:22, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
::::Since many users have wrote their opinion, what's going to happen to "The Featured Blog"? [[User:Vss2eip|<font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;">'''Vss2eip'''</span></font>]][[User_talk:Vss2eip|<span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;"><sup>''talk here''</sup></span>]] 20:17, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
:::::We may as well take it to a vote to see if the community ultimately wants to implement this feature. {{GGsigLabSig}} 23:58, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
===Voting on implementing the Featured Blog Post system===
Based on the above discussion, I now feel we should take this to a vote so we can decide whether to implement this system or not. The voting process will last for a week. Before voting, please be aware of the wiki's [[The_Sims_Wiki:Policy/Participation_Policies#Voting_Requirements|voting requirements]].
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#~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font color="black">ฬ</font><font color="orange">ђ</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="silver">(Ŧlยttєгรђא</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">ƒтω!)</font>]]'''</sup> 04:36, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
#--[[User:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">Guilherme Guerreiro</span>]][[File:Thanks rose.png]] <small>([[User talk:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">talk here</span>]])</small> 10:25, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
#I can see that there are some pros of this system but there are also several cons. While they can possibly be worked around, we may still be lacking in content in order for this to work. {{GGsigLabSig}} 12:02, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
 
==== Oppose ====
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::::It runs on autowikibrowser, and it's only semi automated. I can easily undo it's edits, and autowikibrowser is pretty simple to use. Besides, it'll only really be used for category replacing, and other simple tasks. ~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font color="black">ฬ</font><font color="orange">ђ</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="silver">(Ŧlยttєгรђא</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">ƒтω!)</font>]]</sup>''' 11:55, July 30, 2011 (UTC)
:::::I don't think you can really have too many bots, as long as they're all fully functional and run by trustworthy users. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 16:49, July 30, 2011 (UTC)
::::::I'm in support of this as we need a new bot and WH seems to know how to work it. (I tried running a couple on a test wiki through AWB and I failed miserably :P) I am however willing to test [[User:E123-Omega|E123-Omega]] on my test wiki as a "backup" to WH's bot. {{GGsigLabSig}} 17:22, July 30, 2011 (UTC)
:::::::I don't know if I've stated this, but he won't be fully automated. He will only be active while I'm on, as I have to press save for every edit. ~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font color="black">ฬ</font><font color="orange">ђ</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="silver">(Ŧlยttєгรђא</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">ƒтω!)</font>]]</sup>''' 00:57, July 31, 2011 (UTC)
::::::::I like the idea. [[User:Vss2eip|<font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;">'''Vss2eip'''</span></font>]][[User_talk:Vss2eip|<span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;"><sup>''talk here''</sup></span>]] 08:55, July 31, 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::Alright, as I see no opposition here, I've sent off a request to flag it as a bot through Special:Contact. I think that bureaucrats can remove these flags, so if you think it's not time, feel free to remove the flags. ~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="black">ฬ</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="orange">ђ</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">tคlк</font>]]</sup>''' 23:05, August 24, 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::Fine by me (and yeah, bureaucrats can revoke bot flags). {{GGsigLabSig}} 23:06, August 24, 2011 (UTC)
 
== Technical expertise lacking ==
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:Agreed fully. This is what's putting us slightly behind other sites like TSR. Perhaps making pages for well known game mods could help? --[[User:BobNewbie|<span style="color:red; text-shadow: green 0 4px 4px;">'''BobNewbie'''</span>]] [[User talk:BobNewbie|<span style="color: red ; text-shadow: green 0 4px 4px;"><sup>∞(Talk)∞</sup></span>]] 17:31, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
::Yeah, I think we could include more information about how to fix technical problems. I could translate [[User blog:GEORGIEGIBBONS/The guide on buying a computer for gaming|this blog]] into an article as it would advise someone who was buying a new computer in order to play the game, which would be helpful. Also, I think our Tutorial namespace would be a good place to write some tutorials regarding technical issues and how to fix them. {{GGsigLabSig}} 18:53, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
:::I agree with Georgie, Tutorials should be the place for it, after all they are not only meant as in-game but they are also mant to offer knowledge of how to solve glitches. I agree that we could start to write about mods. The problem is that our contributors may also lack in technical expertise, and personally, I don't really have technical knowledge on Sims >-<. --[[User:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">Guilherme Guerreiro</span>]][[File:Thanks rose.png]] <small>([[User talk:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">talk here</span>]])</small> 18:59, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
 
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:::::::::I don't think that Google searches automatically go to Recent Activity... that might just be due to your setup or preferences. However, most people probably don't end up on TSW through our mainpage directly, but through a more direct google search - search, for example, [[Bella Goth]] and you'll find that our page on her is the first hit. The same goes for a lot of other searches (mostly searches for Sims). -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 07:09, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::Weren't Tutorials supposed to offer knowledge about how to improve the game? --[[User:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">Guilherme Guerreiro</span>]][[File:Thanks rose.png]] <small>([[User talk:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">talk here</span>]])</small> 11:11, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::::Good point actually. I reckon the Tutorial namespace could be used for something that's common while we could create a new forum for someone to post an issue that we haven't covered so we can try and solve it. {{GGsigLabSig}} 11:15, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::::One thing for sure, don't make it as article, because article is for in-game information. I too agree if we implement it to Tutorial, but tutorial is not rich in article yet, and some of them are poorly written. This means, we have to focus on tutorial development. {{NikelSign}} 11:48, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
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===System Requirements===
I suggest that we create a article that will have info on system requirements on every Sims game (like The Sims: House party or The Sims 3: Generation or The Sims 2...) and that it tells us something like "don't install The Sims 3 if you have less than 10gb in your hard drive" or similar. What do you think? [[User:Vss2eip|<font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;">'''Vss2eip'''</span></font>]][[User_talk:Vss2eip|<span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;"><sup>''talk here''</sup></span>]] 20:39, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
:We could. However, we do currently list the system requirements on the pages for each base game, as well as some hints [[User blog:GEORGIEGIBBONS/The guide on buying a computer for gaming|this blog]] from [[User:GEORGIEGIBBONS|those lovely people]] in the UK. ;) {{GGsigLabSig}} 23:53, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
::Seems like an OK idea. It could be added as a section to the article, or made as a subpage. ~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font color="black">ฬ</font><font color="orange">ђ</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="silver">(Ŧlยttєгรђא</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">ƒтω!)</font>]]'''</sup> 09:56, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
:::I agree, I think this would improve our lacking in technical information. --[[User:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">Guilherme Guerreiro</span>]][[File:Thanks rose.png]] <small>([[User talk:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">talk here</span>]])</small> 21:38, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
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:::I mean like "Featured Sim Article", like we have "Featured Article". Not based on popularity, based on the quality of the article. [[User:Vss2eip|<font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;">'''Vss2eip'''</span></font>]][[User_talk:Vss2eip|<span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;"><sup>''talk here''</sup></span>]] 19:08, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
::::I'm not too sure about this as like WH said, there are a lot of articles that only have basic information on Sims. I think they should just stay under the general Featured Article system. {{GGsigLabSig}} 22:20, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
== Chat moderators ==
 
Hey guys, [[User:Woganhemlock|WH]] and myself were discussing on IRC about bringing in a couple of non-admins to become moderators on [[Special:Chat|Chat]] (it was all WH's idea). I thought this would be a good idea as there doesn't seem to be much administrator presense on Chat. I think that a user who nominates themself or is nominated to become a Chat moderator should have rollback as a minimum requirement (I have a couple of users in mind for this already). Plus I think we should decide whether to go by the traditional method of having a bureaucrat approve the requests or allowing any administrator to do it (as admins/chatmods can promote others to chatmod status). What do you guys think? {{GGsigLabSig}} 07:35, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
:I'm not necessarily sure we need much in the way of a strict minimum requirement, as chat moderator privileges are very marginal and are very easy to provide/take away. I would say the only requirement should be that the user shows that they are on the chat semi-frequently. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 08:19, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
::I agree. Since admins can give these rights out as well, I don't see why it should be crat only for handing them out. ~>'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font color="black">ฬ</font><font color="orange">ђ</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="silver">(Ŧlยttєгรђא</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">ƒтω!)</font>]]</sup>''' 08:32, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I agree. As long as the user is trustworthy and on the chat semi-frequently, I don't see an issue. I was thinking of nominating/promoting new moderators in the same way that we currently deal with [[The Sims Wiki:Requests for rollback|Requests for rollback rights]] but I'm sure someone has a better idea than me and they're welcome to suggest it. :P {{GGsigLabSig}} 09:54, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
 
::::I agree with everyone that say that this a great idea. I don't see why not to make chat moderators. Is there a official page for nominating chat moderators? [[User:Vss2eip|<font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;">'''Vss2eip'''</span></font>]][[User_talk:Vss2eip|<span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;"><sup>''talk here''</sup></span>]] 18:42, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
:::::Not yet but we're working on the implementation. :) {{GGsigLabSig}} 19:02, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
::::::Then I think that we should start a voting. [[User:Vss2eip|<font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;">'''Vss2eip'''</span></font>]][[User_talk:Vss2eip|<span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:lime 0 4px 4px;"><sup>''talk here''</sup></span>]] 19:04, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
:::::::I think even just having the users apply on an admin's talk page would suffice, I don't think we need a new page solely for those applications. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 22:28, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
::::::::I don't see a problem with that. Of course, we'd still need to have some guidelines about this. Also, when it comes to an application, we should decide (once we have a couple or so) if we really need any more chat moderators. Personally, I think 2 will be a good starting point and if we decide we could benefit from another chatmod then we can consider promoting a new applicant. {{GGsigLabSig}} 22:23, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
==Featured Tutorial==
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::I agree with Bob, also why not creating an adminstration project incolving Tutorials? --[[User:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">Guilherme Guerreiro</span>]][[File:Thanks rose.png]] <small>([[User talk:Guilherme Guerreiro|<span style="color:orange">talk here</span>]])</small> 19:33, August 7, 2011 (UTC)
:::It would be an issue with making sure that the AP had enough it would be responsible for in order to keep the administrators in it busy enough to justify making the project. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 23:18, August 7, 2011 (UTC)
::::Considering that our Tutorial namespace is pretty small compared to others, I'm not entirely sure we need a dedicated AP. However, I can think of some tasks that can be assigned to a possible Tutorial AP (in a similar fashion to the Fanon Administration AP) so it may have some benefit. {{GGsigLabSig}} 15:27, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
=== Voting on for [[User:BobNewbie|BobNewbie]] to manage the Featured Tutorial page===
''The following vote has been declared null due to the lack of discussion above as well as the below comments and is '''not''' open for further comment.''<s> '''Question: Do you support [[User:BobNewbie|BobNewbie]] to manage the [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Tutorial/Voting|Featured Tutorial page]]?''' Time remaining to vote is {{Countdown|time=22:00 August 15, 2011|zone=UTC}}.</s>
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===Comments===
*Err...I don't think it's a vote-worthy matter, really. --[[User:BobNewbie|<span style="color:red; text-shadow: green 0 4px 4px;">'''BobNewbie'''</span>]] [[User talk:BobNewbie|<span style="color: red ; text-shadow: green 0 4px 4px;"><sup>∞(Talk)∞</sup></span>]] 11:50, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
::I have to agree, this isn't something that needs to be voted on in this manner. To be honest, I think we need to discuss this in more detail before deciding anything, hence why I have declared the vote as null. {{GGsigLabSig}} 15:13, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
:::Compound onto that, we have a [[Project:Policy/Participation Policies#Voting Procedures|rule]] which states that votes should only be started when '''absolutely necessary''', then in those cases ''started by administrators only.'' '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 18:27, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
 
==Increase Rate of Featured Media (Pictures)==
Since this wiki has many great and interesting features, I was thinking about increasing the rate of the featured pictures. Instead of one, we can, I don't know, add an slideshow of pictures. What do you think? Or if you don't like the idea we can feature a picture every 2 weeks or one or even a "picture of the day"! Your call! [[User:Vss2eip|<font face="Vladimir Script" size="3"><span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:black 0 4px 4px;">'''El cobaya'''</span></font>]][[User_talk:Vss2eip|<span style="color:#50C878; text-shadow:black 0 4px 4px;"><sup>''talk here''</sup></span>]] 19:37, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
:I wouldn't mind seeing a new Featured Media file bi-weekly as we do have many good images. As for the slideshow part, I think it could work in the form of a Featured Gallery, where we can vote on the best image gallery for an article and use that as a slideshow. {{GGsigLabSig}} 19:40, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
::I think it would be cool to have a featured images slideshow, but I'm not sure that it's feasible given the current low popularity of Featured Media... I'm supportive, but skeptical. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 22:36, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
:::I don't think featured media needs to be ''very popular''. And I think making a slideshow image is a good idea! But where will it be placed? [[User:Nikel23|<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">'''Nikel'''</span>]] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sup>''(Talk''</sup>'' to '' <sub>''me!)''</sub></span>]] 11:38, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
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