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== Proposing New Sim Bio Template ==
With the upcoming release of ''[[The Sims 3]]'' we need to be able to display a Sim's information from all three games. I have designed a [[:Category:Bio templates|series of templates]] and you can see them at work [[User:A_morris/3SimsBio|here]]. Please tell me what you think of them and any ideas you have for ''[[User:A morris/Simsbio3|The Sims 3'' template'']]. Also, the way the templates are designed ''The Sims 3'' template
:I love Example 1. Just a question for the Player Stories, where would that page direct? Something like [[Mortimer Goth/Player stories]]? [[User:Makiah|<font color="red">Makiah</font>]] [[User talk:Makiah|<small><font color="red">(talk)</font></small>]] 05:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::Yes. Like how the current template is set up now. [[User:A morris|-- a_morris]] 14:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
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:Rather than making separate pages we could have 'one page' for CAS sims for all different users and delete the [rest, since most CAS sim pages are very short and contain one line (from what I have read). I know there is a page where people can talk about their CAS families. [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 05:10, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm...actually I, too, prefer the idea of making a CAS sub-wiki or separate category.
:If we were to make a spin off wiki for CAS sims and families, I believe that someone else would have to step up to the plate. I just recently (Like 1-2 days ago) took the job of admin on this wiki and I don't think I'm personally ready to start another wiki just for CAS sims.
:I also think it's hard for me (and anyone else who is not the beginner of the page) to expand CAS pages when they are not my sims. Thus we are left with blank pages or pages with one or two lines describing a sim, which seem a waste of space. I also don't think the categories thing will work because people tend to not always categorize everything the way it should be categorized.
:Maybe instead of many different pages we could use the [[Create-A-Sim|CAS]] page to describe what a CAS sim is and the talk page could be where people talk about their characters. We could merge all CAS pages together in the talk. Where older pages come in we could take the original owner's name or ip and say "SoandSo says..." then what they posted in a page(s). I don't think many people have posted their CAS sims but I think the few who have, created many pages for different characters of their families. Then we could make an announcement of the new page to post CAS sim information and archive the older pages when they get full.
:I think this is a better idea than deleting them. That way members are still heard but it is differenciated between base game and CAS sims. The same thing could also be done with objects. Though I think we should cross that road when we get to it. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 16:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
::It certainly would be more work - and likely confusion - for all involved.
:::Thanks! ^_^
:::I want to get this done as soon as possible so it's off the plate. So we will start the voting procedures again and disregard the old vote. Voting ends when there are 10 votes or after 2 weeks, which ever comes first (unless there is a tie, cross the road when we get there). If there is another option voting will restart again that way we include it. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 17:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Quick idea, what does everyone think about moving the Player stories to the talk pages of those particular characters? Not a big issue, but I think it would add neatness and allow people to sign their post. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 20:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm all about neatness!
:::::Well, I'm sure Angela could give you a better explanation if mine doesn't cover any of your questions but if you want to create a sub wiki, you are the admin of it. However, if you want to be like me and take over a wiki they first determine if the admin of the wiki has been active. If they haven't edited in the past two months they are not active and you can then apply to an admin, like Angela to [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Adopt_this_wiki Adopt a Wiki]. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 21:54, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Alright well the votes going to be officially closed. To be honest I didn't think we would get 10 people. But I guess since I opened it to unregistered users it upéd the vote. Alright so just in case someone else votes after this. Voting results were: 1 Delete, 2 Keep, 1 new wiki, 6 talk page, 0 other. I'll start moving the CAS sim pages to the talk page and deleting them afterwards. If anyone helps and they transfer the data from the actual page to the CAS talk page. Please report the page so I know to delete it with a simple message letting me know. I'll start most of the work tomorrow though. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 04:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
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:# Banned user's votes will not be counted.
*To have a voting format to make achived voting topics more comprehensible. Something like
::<nowiki>==Voting Topic==</nowiki>
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::<nowiki>==Comments==</nowiki>
These ideas were mainly based on [http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Site_Name StarWars Fanon's] archived vote, as well as their voting restrictions.
I know this is a small community also so I think I would like to limit voting time periods but do not know what that time period should be. Comments? [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 23:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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I believe we should have a policy, currently there is none but I believe it should address a few topics which may seem obvious but if it is written out it is more enforceable. Somethings I believe it should contain:
*A clause about vandalism not being allowed.
*Mention about inappropriate words such as cuss words.
*Something concerning new pages. Such as if there is a topic already on that page just with different capitals, should be deleted. Misspelled pages should be either deleted or moved depending on the circumstances.
*Also with new pages, I suggest that empty pages created after a policy is put in effect be deleted. Example: SimCity 3000 has never had anything on it but can't be deleted per policy because it doesn't have anything on it. But if an empty page were to be created say titled [[Mirrors]] but has nothing on it, even though it is relevant to Sims it should be deleted. Maybe something saying you need at least 3 facts in complete sentences to start a page. That way there is something to build off of. Some sort of content.
::I'm thinking that we really don't want empty pages at all. I've seen pages like "There's no content here yet 'cause I'm concentrating on categorizing" -- we don't really want that to remain. If the page has no content, it should show up in [[Special:Wantedpages]] -- which it won't if it has nothing but that sentence on it. --[[User:Narc|Narc]] ([[User talk:Narc|talk]]) 12:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I saw that page too. But I feel rather than deleting old empty pages we should work to improve them unless they show no potential. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 19:39, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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Everyone can check out the proposed policy at [[Sims wiki:Policy]]. [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 21:06, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:I added block times so everyone knows the consequences of their actions which hopefully will deteriorate them from breaking the rules. I would like to add a note at the bottom saying that Wikia helpers, janitors and admins may use their discretion when blocking a user as that user may also be vandalizing other wikis. I want to cover every angle...what do you guys think? In the past helpers such as [[User:Uberfuzzy|Uberfuzzy]] have helped us by banning vandals.
::Vandals tend not to read the rules in the first place; those who do and still break them usually have a bone to pick. As far as I'm concerned, the simplest rule you can use is "Whatever the admin wants, the admin gets." As for Wikia people helping, I do believe it can't hurt to make a note of it. Covering every angle, though, that's a tough one. The best way to do that, I've found, is to make short and open-ended rules, without going into much detail about what ''exactly'' constitutes vandalism. In short, what you have now is probably best. On that note, however, I would personally recommend against very short blocks (like an hour), since those have practically no value unless they're given ''immediately'' once a violation is noted, and that will almost never happen unless someone sits on top of [[Special:Recentchanges]] refreshing every minute. I don't know about you, but I don't have that kind of time. --[[User:Narc|Narc]] ([[User talk:Narc|talk]]) 18:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Good point, I changed that hour thing. I added the other clause. And I guess this can just go to voting... [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 17:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
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''"i would like to suggest you move to one of the monaco skins instead of quartz. wikia is no longer actively supporting quartz, so any problem with it are very unlikely to be fixed. monaco can be customized much in the same ways as quartz, but offers more controls and menus options. See [[w:inside:Monaco_Skin_Customization|Monaco Skin Customization]] for all the ways you can customize it. --[[User:Uberfuzzy|Uberfuzzy]] 23:47, 18 March 2008 (UTC)"''
Being suggested, I would like to take a vote to this. Wikia changed the default skin (I think earlier on 18 March 2008) I changed it back to Smoke Quartz, however as Uberfuzzy pointed out, above, Quartz is no longer supported. So I believe Smoke should be the color, but is everyone okay with Monaco? Personally it's what I use when I'm logged in. Doesn't really need a discussion since there are only two options...If you agree with Uberfuzzy, you want the supported skin Monaco. If you disagree, you want to keep it the way it is. I recommend you try each skin to know exactly what your voting for. <u>This vote ends April 1st, 2008.</u>
===Agree===
===Neutral===
# I hold the right to change my vote later. ^^ (Just incase everyone is neutral!) [[User:Makiah|<font color="red">Makiah</font>]] [[User talk:Makiah|<small><font color="red">(talk)</font></small>]] 02:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
# I can't say this makes any difference to me. My preferences are set to use the monobook skin I'm comfortable with and I don't see myself changing to any other. --[[User:Narc|Narc]] ([[User talk:Narc|talk]]) 13:09, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
===Disagree===
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I figured we should put this here since I foresee a problem should we not get this issue solved very soon. <u>I am personally suspending all category creations until we vote on our laid out plan.</u> This way everyone as a community knows what to do and is not doing their own thing. '''One weeks worth discussion and two weeks to vote on the issue is going to be our set time plan.'''
Issue: The category system needs fixing. It's very unorganized and messy.
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**'''Community'''
***Websites
**EA Games (I think the Maxis category should be integrated into this one)
**''(more? Your input is required)''
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===Categories Voting===
First thing I would like to apologize to the community because I forgot to put the vote up on time. Alright so we will be voting on a Categories plan that allows the community to be on the same page. The plan is that whatever category is not in it will be deleted and the other ones moved so they are branches of whatever category tree they are listed under. This will not hinder Category creation however when creating a category it must have a proper branch (be a category of a category) and have a significant number of articles.
The proposed category system is as followed:
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***Discussions
***Websites
**EA Games (I think the Maxis category should be integrated into this one)
**''(more? Your input is required)''
Because of my own negligence the voting is now set to end April 10th, 2008. [[User:Makiah|<font color="red">Makiah</font>]] [[User talk:Makiah|<small><font color="red">(talk)</font></small>]] 01:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
====Agree====
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Anonymous[[Special:Contributions/71.167.254.3|71.167.254.3]] 23:21, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
====Neutral====
===Disagree===
====Comments====
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** I think these should be kept
Any other suggestions?
-- [[User:A morris|A morris]] 00:22, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
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:I had another idea. That of placing the player stories on a subpage of the character's page, ex. [[Bella Goth/Player stories]]. That way the stories are on their own page and can even be placed in a "Player stories" category. The {{[[Template:Sim|Sim]]}} can be edited to automatically link to the subpage as well. [[User:A morris|-- a_morris]] 02:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
::Over the next couple of days I'm going to be updating the {{[[Template:Sims|Sim]]}} to incorporate the idea stated in an earlier message as well as some other things. Because of this many of the Sims pages will require some editing but will hopefully make the template easier to use. [[User:A morris|-- a_morris]] 14:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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