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''This page is an archived discussion. To discuss it currently please use the talk page.''


==Voting Procedure==
I was thinking about making an official voting procedure limiting people who can vote. I don't think I liked how the CAS Sims vote was ran. Here are my proposals:


*To have Voting Requirements:
:# Must be a Member (Anonymous or IP Votes will not be counted)
:# Must have atleast 1 edit in the sims wiki
:# Votes must be signed correctly with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>
:# Banned user's votes will not be counted.


*To have a voting format to make achived voting topics more comprehensible. Something like
==Voting Delete or Keep or Move==


::<nowiki>==Voting Topic==</nowiki>
Delete {''CAS sim pages would fill up this wikia with pointless information.'') [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 17:00, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


::<nowiki>Small Description</nowiki>
Move? I don't mind if they're kept here or not, but rather than simply deleting them, if the pages contain useful information, we could make a spin-off wiki for CAS Sims. [[User:Angela|Angela]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Angela|talk]]) 04:45, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
:Rather than making separate pages we could have 'one page' for CAS sims for all different users and delete the [rest, since most CAS sim pages are very short and contain one line (from what I have read). I know there is a page where people can talk about their CAS families. [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 05:10, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


::<nowiki>===Agree===</nowiki>
Hmmm...actually I, too, prefer the idea of making a CAS sub-wiki or separate category. The game is just as much about customization as the stories/characters/info that ship with it. I do like that idea. I just don't think such Sims should be included in the actual game info, such as being listed in [[Pleasantview]]; this could confuse those not as familiar with the game as all of us are - people just wanting general information on The Sims 2 as it ships. I'm all for making a separate area for CAS info rather than simply deleting it - either way, though, I think they need to be moved or removed from where they are now. [[User:Skatoolaki|skatoolaki]] 13:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
:If we were to make a spin off wiki for CAS sims and families, I believe that someone else would have to step up to the plate. I just recently (Like 1-2 days ago) took the job of admin on this wiki and I don't think I'm personally ready to start another wiki just for CAS sims.


::<nowiki># Vote</nowiki>
:I also think it's hard for me (and anyone else who is not the beginner of the page) to expand CAS pages when they are not my sims. Thus we are left with blank pages or pages with one or two lines describing a sim, which seem a waste of space. I also don't think the categories thing will work because people tend to not always categorize everything the way it should be categorized.


::<nowiki>*Comment</nowiki>
:Maybe instead of many different pages we could use the [[Create-A-Sim|CAS]] page to describe what a CAS sim is and the talk page could be where people talk about their characters. We could merge all CAS pages together in the talk. Where older pages come in we could take the original owner's name or ip and say "SoandSo says..." then what they posted in a page(s). I don't think many people have posted their CAS sims but I think the few who have, created many pages for different characters of their families. Then we could make an announcement of the new page to post CAS sim information and archive the older pages when they get full.


::<nowiki>**Another Comment</nowiki>
:I think this is a better idea than deleting them. That way members are still heard but it is differenciated between base game and CAS sims. The same thing could also be done with objects. Though I think we should cross that road when we get to it. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 16:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


::<nowiki>===Neutral===</nowiki>
::It certainly would be more work - and likely confusion - for all involved. I see your point, Makiah (and gratz on the Admin position). The idea of a Create-A-Sim page detailing what they are all about and the 'Talk' feature allowing people to describe, talk about, and share their custom made Sims sounds like a fair and efficient idea to me. That way we could take the CAS Sim pages already made on the Wiki and paste them into the 'Talk' section of that page. I'm all for that. [[User:Skatoolaki|skatoolaki]] 16:39, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


::<nowiki>===Disagree===</nowiki>
:::Thanks! ^_^
:::I want to get this done as soon as possible so it's off the plate. So we will start the voting procedures again and disregard the old vote. Voting ends when there are 10 votes or after 2 weeks, which ever comes first (unless there is a tie, cross the road when we get there). If there is another option voting will restart again that way we include it. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 17:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Quick idea, what does everyone think about moving the Player stories to the talk pages of those particular characters? Not a big issue, but I think it would add neatness and allow people to sign their post. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 20:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm all about neatness! Whatever we can do keep the wiki clean, efficient, and informational, I'm all for it. (BTW, and hate to ask here so you can delete this afterwards, how does one go about applying to be an officer/admin-type? Thx).
:::::Well, I'm sure Angela could give you a better explanation if mine doesn't cover any of your questions but if you want to create a sub wiki, you are the admin of it. However, if you want to be like me and take over a wiki they first determine if the admin of the wiki has been active. If they haven't edited in the past two months they are not active and you can then apply to an admin, like Angela to [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Adopt_this_wiki Adopt a Wiki]. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 21:54, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Alright well the votes going to be officially closed. To be honest I didn't think we would get 10 people. But I guess since I opened it to unregistered users it upéd the vote. Alright so just in case someone else votes after this. Voting results were: 1 Delete, 2 Keep, 1 new wiki, 6 talk page, 0 other. I'll start moving the CAS sim pages to the talk page and deleting them afterwards. If anyone helps and they transfer the data from the actual page to the CAS talk page. Please report the page so I know to delete it with a simple message letting me know. I'll start most of the work tomorrow though. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 04:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::: I would suggest that they be moved to the user's page or user subpages. A category could be made to keep track of them. -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 17:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: I think that would have been a great idea however because we already voted I think it's hard to re-vote. I would be willing to consider creating a new vote if there were enough people behind it. To be honest I'm happy with the solution we came up with. [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 01:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


::<nowiki>==Comments==</nowiki>
<poll>
What should we do with CAS pages?
Delete them --They could potentially fill up this wiki with pointless information.
Keep them --They are part of the game after all, Sims was based on the fact that players can costumize their games.
Create a new wiki for the sole purpose of CAS sims.
Use the CAS sim page and talk page to host CAS sims from other players.
Other --Explain in a post.
</poll>


These ideas were mainly based on [http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Site_Name StarWars Fanon's] archived vote, as well as their voting restrictions.

I know this is a small community also so I think I would like to limit voting time periods but do not know what that time period should be. Comments? [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 23:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:Alright, my idea is that the time limit for voting will be 2 weeks, however if anyone would like to put in their input that would be great. On March 12th if no one has any input I think we will adopt the above as our voting format and voting rules. That way we will be able to use that to vote on the Policy and Main Page. [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 01:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
::Looks very decent to me. I was wondering if we could have each vote have its own page, linked from a main "Current and Archived Votes" page; that way we can watch the current votes page for changes while not cluttering it up with old votes. Just a thought. --[[User:Narc|Narc]] ([[User talk:Narc|talk]]) 18:53, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I was thinkings about that but I still have to look into how to do it. Like archived talk pages. I figure this would be the best place to hold the discussions then we could move it to another page and lock it indefinately as archived in an archived category that way it's viewable and people could read it but not change it. Then on the Article part of this page list the past discussions and their result with links to the archive. If it's the way I think it would be then a sample discussion/vote archive for example would be like [[Discussions/Main Page]] then in the article part would have a copy of the discussions then under that the votes. The article part would be locked and the Discussion part would be for any comments on those discussions. This page would be a central locations for all discussions and voting. Sound good? ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 19:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::::That sounds like what I was thinking about, honestly. --[[User:Narc|Narc]] ([[User talk:Narc|talk]]) 18:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


Alright guys, you can check out the policy here: [[Sims wiki:Policy]]. I'm still willing to discuss the idea above. But whats in the policy is what we agree upon so that's why I kept it off for now. [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 21:06, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:I added the 2 week time period because no one contested the view and I didn't remember at the time when I was writing it that it was there. I haven't added the idea above about voting on other pages because while I agree with the idea I'm not sure how to do it or if what I mentioned above would be the best way to do it. If the way above is the correct way and no one opposes I'll write that into the Voting Procedures, that way it's set in stone and people have a format to follow. I think this should be priority over the other things mentioned on this page because we can use this to vote on the other things. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 00:12, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::I can't think of anything to add. I think it's probably more important right now to have a voting policy in place than to tweak its specifics -- we can always do that later. --[[User:Narc|Narc]] ([[User talk:Narc|talk]]) 18:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


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This page is an archived discussion. To discuss it currently please use the talk page.

Voting Procedure

I was thinking about making an official voting procedure limiting people who can vote. I don't think I liked how the CAS Sims vote was ran. Here are my proposals:

  • To have Voting Requirements:
  1. Must be a Member (Anonymous or IP Votes will not be counted)
  2. Must have atleast 1 edit in the sims wiki
  3. Votes must be signed correctly with ~~~~
  4. Banned user's votes will not be counted.
  • To have a voting format to make achived voting topics more comprehensible. Something like
==Voting Topic==
Small Description
===Agree===
# Vote
*Comment
**Another Comment
===Neutral===
===Disagree===
==Comments==

These ideas were mainly based on StarWars Fanon's archived vote, as well as their voting restrictions.

I know this is a small community also so I think I would like to limit voting time periods but do not know what that time period should be. Comments? Makiah 23:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Alright, my idea is that the time limit for voting will be 2 weeks, however if anyone would like to put in their input that would be great. On March 12th if no one has any input I think we will adopt the above as our voting format and voting rules. That way we will be able to use that to vote on the Policy and Main Page. Makiah 01:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Looks very decent to me. I was wondering if we could have each vote have its own page, linked from a main "Current and Archived Votes" page; that way we can watch the current votes page for changes while not cluttering it up with old votes. Just a thought. --Narc (talk) 18:53, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I was thinkings about that but I still have to look into how to do it. Like archived talk pages. I figure this would be the best place to hold the discussions then we could move it to another page and lock it indefinately as archived in an archived category that way it's viewable and people could read it but not change it. Then on the Article part of this page list the past discussions and their result with links to the archive. If it's the way I think it would be then a sample discussion/vote archive for example would be like Discussions/Main Page then in the article part would have a copy of the discussions then under that the votes. The article part would be locked and the Discussion part would be for any comments on those discussions. This page would be a central locations for all discussions and voting. Sound good? ~ Makiah 19:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
That sounds like what I was thinking about, honestly. --Narc (talk) 18:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


Alright guys, you can check out the policy here: Sims wiki:Policy. I'm still willing to discuss the idea above. But whats in the policy is what we agree upon so that's why I kept it off for now. Makiah 21:06, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I added the 2 week time period because no one contested the view and I didn't remember at the time when I was writing it that it was there. I haven't added the idea above about voting on other pages because while I agree with the idea I'm not sure how to do it or if what I mentioned above would be the best way to do it. If the way above is the correct way and no one opposes I'll write that into the Voting Procedures, that way it's set in stone and people have a format to follow. I think this should be priority over the other things mentioned on this page because we can use this to vote on the other things. ~ Makiah 00:12, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I can't think of anything to add. I think it's probably more important right now to have a voting policy in place than to tweak its specifics -- we can always do that later. --Narc (talk) 18:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)