The Sims Wiki talk:Community Portal: Difference between revisions

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:::As anyone who has been around for awhile knows, I'm not a fan of voting on matters that should be decided by consensus. And in consensus-building, the length of time someone has been here is nowhere near as important as the strength of their argument or the amount of knowledge they have on the subject, which may be sufficiently large even if their edit count isn't. On the other hand, we are looking for ''community'' consent, and it would be difficult to argue that a person with one edit to the wiki constitutes a member of the community. In the example referenced above by GG, it's worth noting that we eventually determined the ruse and scraped the vote when it was realized that it wasn't genuine; I think we all know the community well enough to realize when there is true support for an idea and when someone else is trying to make it appear as if there is support, so ultimately the idea of someone 'faking' a vote doesn't worry me much. All this is to say that, while I'm not inherently opposed to increasing the vote requirement itself, I'm hesitant to agree to any increase that could detrimentally affect the ability of new users editing in good faith from participating in community discussion or in the community decision-making process. After all, I believe one of the strengths of this wiki is our ability to resolve these issues as a group, rather than just having one or two admins/bureaucrats make all the decisions.
:::So, to boil this all down - I ultimately would support this proposal if the 'must be a member for x months' portion was dropped. I think in the past we've seen several members become incorporated as major players in the community within days or weeks, so forcing these people to wait a month before having any real say in the operation of the wiki seems to be less than ideal. The number of contributions itself - 50 - doesn't seem too detrimentally high, and I don't think it's of very much concern where the edits took place so long as they were good faith edits and not superfluous ones. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 14:28, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
::::The reason I based this on the "Rfx rule" is because I was looking to incorporate a universal minimum requirement of a reasonable standard, in addition to the fact that I don't really understand how Rfx currently requires a user to have 50x more edits than a user who could vote for anything on this page - RfA/RfB nominations do still require community input after all. I suppose it wouldn't be a bad idea to drop the "must be reasonably active for 1 month" rule. Furthermore, I doubt a legitimate new user with 5 edits would even realise that this page is for community discussions.
 
::::As far as where the edits took place, I'd recommend that the edits were made to our actual content namespaces, specifically the mainspace, fanon, tutorials and I don't suppose the file or template namespace would be problematic either as a fair bit can be done there too (licensing/categorising images, fixing/making templates etc.) though I personally wouldn't put too much, if any, weight on userspace or blog comments.
 
::::If anyone has anything they wish to add/change then feel free to put it across. {{GGsig}} 17:26, September 12, 2012 (UTC)