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::::'''Added:''' To be clear, I'm not trying to rehash that discussion, I'm simply trying to explain why the decision ultimately reached is a valid one, as it relates to the discussion here. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 23:56, October 14, 2012 (UTC)
:::::If neutral votes aren't counted for anything then I have a question: ''what is the point of voting neutrally at all?'' I know it's merely just a vocal representation of "being in the middle" but as far as I'm concerned, a vote is a vote no matter how it was applied. Here's a scenario: 13 users vote; 10 vote neutral and 3 vote support; it would still pass unanimously because those other 10 votes were discarded. Obviously a neutral vote doesn't automatically mean support nor does it mean oppose but they can still provide good reasoning and it's still a vote, so imo even if it doesn't provide a clear answer, the number of neutral votes should be counted with the support and opposition votes and then determining the outcome, whether it be via consensus or a majority outcome, should take those votes into account. If a vote isn't counted then really it just seems like a waste of a vote. Just a thought. {{GGsig}} 08:09, October 15, 2012 (UTC)
::::::If a voter wanted their vote to count for something, the should have voted in favor or in opposition to something. The reasoning is something to consider in cases where the reasoning is being considered, but if it's a strict 'X votes in favor, Y votes opposed' situation, the neutral votes ''can't'' be counted. Because, if they were counted, what would they be counted as? They can't be counted as votes in favor because if they had been in favor, they would have voted as such. They can't be counted as in opposition because if they opposed it they would have voted as such.
::::::If a user votes neutrally, they might be doing it to give an opinion but ultimately it simply cannot be accounted for in the actual tally. As they say, decisions are made by those who show up... if you're not voting for or against something, you haven't really shown up.
::::::''However'', if we're looking for consensus instead of a vote, then neutrality really could be used to ultimately determine where the community lands on a particular issue. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 16:26, October 15, 2012 (UTC)
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