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==Logo==
It'd be great if the Team had a logo that could be used on the FPRT pages and maybe on the request template. - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 00:02, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
:What would such a logo look like? -- [[User:Icemandeaf|Icemandeaf]] ([[User talk:Icemandeaf|talk]]) 03:00, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
::Well, it doesn't necessarily have to be an icon from the game itself. It could simply be the stylised initials of the Team's name (FPRT). &#8213;'''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="green">The</font>]] [[Message Wall:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">Tim</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="lime">Man</font>]]''' <sup>([http://historyfiction.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Infinite Histories] • [http://galactic-crucibles.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Galactic Crucibles] • [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 The Sims Wiki] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Contribs</font>]])'''</sup> 09:33, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
::I just made a logo! I hope you'll like it: It will be used on the mentioned template. [[User:Imasexysimlover| <span style="color:#91b60b; font-variant:small-caps; text-shadow: Silver 0 4px 4px;"> '''Imasexysimlover''' </span>]] [[User_talk:Imasexysimlover|<span style="color:#91b60b; text-shadow: Silver 0 4px 4px; font-size:11px">''(talk)''</span>]] 15:16, April 25, 2015 (UTC)[[File:FPRT_-_LOGO.png|right]]
:::I feel like if we're going to used stylized lettering, it should be styled similar to our logo or text from the game. - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 15:18, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 
:::<strike>Hmm... I'll try to re-do it.. a photo of the wiki logo please? </strike> ok, re-doing it right now. [[User:Imasexysimlover| <span style="color:#91b60b; font-variant:small-caps; text-shadow: Silver 0 4px 4px;"> '''Imasexysimlover''' </span>]] [[User_talk:Imasexysimlover|<span style="color:#91b60b; text-shadow: Silver 0 4px 4px; font-size:11px">''(talk)''</span>]] 15:21, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 
Ok, after trying and trying to get the correct color of the text, and the style of the font, I finally made it. The font's style is nothing like the original wiki logo, but I've attempted to have the colors the same as the wiki logo. And also the lower text uses the same writing style for TS4, any notes about it? [[File:FPRT_-_LOGO_2.png|right]] [[User:Imasexysimlover| <span style="color:#91b60b; font-variant:small-caps; text-shadow: Silver 0 4px 4px;"> '''Imasexysimlover''' </span>]] [[User_talk:Imasexysimlover|<span style="color:#91b60b; text-shadow: Silver 0 4px 4px; font-size:11px">''(talk)''</span>]] 15:35, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
:Better, definitely. Just a few picky critiques really, but it looks good. - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 15:53, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 
:I like how it's similar to the logo for TSW, not too similar as there are a couple of differences. Good job Imasexysimlover. ~ [[User:Beds|<font color="purple">'''Beds'''</font>]] <sup>([[User_talk:Beds|<font color="#66CDAA">'''talk'''</font>]] - [[User_blog:Beds|<font color="#66CDAA">'''blog'''</font>]])</sup> 15:54, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 
::Thanks, guys! Any ways I can improve it? [[User:Imasexysimlover| <span style="color:#91b60b; font-variant:small-caps; text-shadow: Silver 0 4px 4px;"> '''Imasexysimlover''' </span>]] [[User_talk:Imasexysimlover|<span style="color:#91b60b; text-shadow: Silver 0 4px 4px; font-size:11px">''(talk)''</span>]] 16:00, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 
I've created my own version of the logo as shown on the <strike>right</strike>. (Moved to below.) Thoughts? &#8213;'''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="green">The</font>]] [[Message Wall:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">Tim</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="lime">Man</font>]]''' <sup>([http://historyfiction.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Infinite Histories] • [http://galactic-crucibles.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Galactic Crucibles] • [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 The Sims Wiki] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Contribs</font>]])'''</sup> 22:42, April 27, 2015 (UTC)
:Why not get rid of the "the" and then make the 'FPRT' letters the same size? - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 01:49, April 28, 2015 (UTC)
[[File:FPRT-logo.png|thumb|250px]]
::Updated. &#8213;'''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="green">The</font>]] [[Message Wall:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">Tim</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="lime">Man</font>]]''' <sup>([http://historyfiction.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Infinite Histories] • [http://galactic-crucibles.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Galactic Crucibles] • [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 The Sims Wiki] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Contribs</font>]])'''</sup> 03:46, April 28, 2015 (UTC)
 
==Ratings==
I took the ratings from the [[Forum:Fanon Peer Review Team proposal|proposal thread]], but do we want to leave them as-is or change them? - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 01:30, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
:I don't feel that they need any changes. -- [[User:Icemandeaf|Icemandeaf]] ([[User talk:Icemandeaf|talk]]) 03:00, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 
==Rewriting the Fanon Creation page==
One of the <s>nefarious</s> reasons I proposed the FPRT was so that team could serve as a lead on fanon-related issues on the wiki. Here is one such instance:
 
Take a look at [[The Sims Wiki:Fanon Creation]]. This is the page we direct people to who are just getting ready to start working on their own fanon. When I look at this page, I feel like it could be written better and made more interesting for people, especially newbies who might be overwhelmed by all that writing fanon entails. To that end, I'm wondering if anyone else shares my thoughts here.
 
I decided to try my hand at writing up a new introduction for the page (which I'll paste below), but I'd really like to keep going with the initiative and re-write the whole page to make it more reader friendly. What does everyone think of this?
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Welcome to The Sims Wiki's '''fanon namespace'''!<ref name=namespace group=help /> We're looking forward to seeing your ''Sims'' fanon<ref name=fanon group=help /> join our library of excellent fanon and fan fiction content. But, before you start publishing your works, we have a few pointers for you, as well as some rules and guidelines that you should be aware of. After all, The Sims Wiki is an encyclopedia about ''The Sims'' series, and while we welcome fanon content and encourage editors to be creative in contributing their content, our main mission is to preserve and develop the canon<ref name=canon group=help /> information. Because of this, we do have a few definite policies that we do enforce regularly. We try to make these rules as easy to follow and understandable as possible. Our goal is to make sure that you are able to create your excellent fanon content without negatively affecting other content on the wiki.
 
;Reference list
<references group=help>
<ref name=namespace>A '''namespace''' consists of all the pages that begin with the same ''prefix''. Any page that begins "Fanon:" is said to be in the Fanon namespace. For example, the page <nowiki>[[Bella Goth]]</nowiki> is not in the fanon namespace, whereas a page named <nowiki>[[Fanon:Bella Goth]]</nowiki> would be. On The Sims Wiki, all fanon content is kept in the Fanon Namespace, to keep it separate from other content.</ref>
<ref name=fanon>'''Fanon''' is the general term used to describe in-game player-created content. Fanon includes player-created Sims, families, neighborhoods, worlds, and lots, and storylines derived from those creations. Note that fanon is typically distinct from "custom content."</ref>
<ref name=canon>'''Canon''' is the term used to describe [[Electronic Arts|EA]] and/or [[Maxis]]-created and thus "official" game content, including pre-created Sims, families, neighborhoods, worlds, and lots, and storlines derived from those creations.</ref>
</references>
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-- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 01:57, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 
:(Two cents) Looks good. I'd probably suggest using shorter paragraphs (so it doesn't look overwhelming) and colorful {{t|Metabox}} templates to denote important information, such as how to correctly use the {{t|Property}} template or what not to do with a fanon. --I am [[User:K6ka|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] [[User talk:K6ka|<span style="color:#0080FF"><sup>Talk to me!</sup></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/K6ka|<span style="color:#0B4C5F"><sub>See what I have done</sub></span>]] 02:06, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
::Looks friendlier than the previous version. I'd consider writing something up about reasons a user's fanon may be deleted and what to do in such a situation as well. See if you can throw in something about using defaultsort tags in there as well so I don't have to add them to 500 pages again any time soon. {{WHsig|02:09, April 25, 2015 (UTC)}}
:::@K6 that's just the introduction. Most people gloss over that either way :p But I do agree, definitely will require copious use of colorful templates to point out important information.
:::@WH that's a good idea.
:::@all The main reason I've brought it up here is to get help with this. I don't think I'm particularly qualified to re-write the whole thing. Besides, I don't think I really have the patience. - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 02:17, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
::::I'll admit that I didn't realize that there was anything for sorting when I first started writing fanons, so I think it would be something good to explain with the property template as well. As for how to re-write the page, I will have to take a look at it myself and think about it somewhat. -- [[User:Icemandeaf|Icemandeaf]] ([[User talk:Icemandeaf|talk]]) 03:00, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
I've rewritten the fanon creation guide [[User:WikiBuilder1147/Sandbox2|here]]. What does everyone think? &#8213;'''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="green">The</font>]] [[Message Wall:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">Tim</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="lime">Man</font>]]''' <sup>([http://historyfiction.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Infinite Histories] • [http://galactic-crucibles.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Galactic Crucibles] • [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 The Sims Wiki] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Contribs</font>]])'''</sup> 05:13, April 29, 2015 (UTC)
 
'''Bump'''. I think the fanon page really needs to be overhauled. Thoughts on the rewrite I did? (Link above) —'''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="green">The</font>]] [[User_talk:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">Tim</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="lime">Man</font>]]''' <sup>([[w:c:historyfiction:User:WikiBuilder1147|IH]] • [[w:c:galactic-crucibles:User:WikiBuilder1147|GC]] • [[w:c:sims:User:WikiBuilder1147|TSW]] • [[w:c:althistory:User:WikiBuilder1147|AH]] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Contribs</font>]])'''</sup> 02:48, July 20, 2015 (UTC)
 
:Looks good, at least better than the old one. I think a link to [[Forum:Help desk]] would be useful, encouraging them to visit and ask at the help desk if they need help with the technical aspects of building fanon. --I am [[User:K6ka|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] [[User talk:K6ka|<span style="color:#0080FF"><sup>Talk to me!</sup></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/K6ka|<span style="color:#0B4C5F"><sub>See what I have done</sub></span>]] 03:17, July 20, 2015 (UTC)
::I think the re-write is fantastic. - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 01:24, July 28, 2015 (UTC)
 
::Thank you! :D I've gone ahead and published the rewritten version on the actual Fanon Creation page. —'''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="green">The</font>]] [[User_talk:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">Tim</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="lime">Man</font>]]''' <sup>([[w:c:historyfiction:User:WikiBuilder1147|IH]] • [[w:c:galactic-crucibles:User:WikiBuilder1147|GC]] • [[w:c:sims:User:WikiBuilder1147|TSW]] • [[w:c:althistory:User:WikiBuilder1147|AH]] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Contribs</font>]])'''</sup> 12:34, August 1, 2015 (UTC)
 
==Language proficiency requirement==
Since this is a Peer Review Team for English-language fanons, wouldn't it make sense if members had to have proficiency in English? Say, Babel level 3, at least? &#8213;'''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="green">The</font>]] [[Message Wall:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">Tim</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="lime">Man</font>]]''' <sup>([http://historyfiction.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Infinite Histories] • [http://galactic-crucibles.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 Galactic Crucibles] • [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:WikiBuilder1147 The Sims Wiki] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Contribs</font>]])'''</sup> 09:34, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
:The babel template is not really that accurate since two users with the same abilities could rate themselves differently. While they might not be able to help as much with grammar and spelling they'd still be able to help with layout and style issues and providing ideas. I'd like to not have this as a requirement and simply trust that users don't provide grammar checks if they don't feel they are confident in the language, and they'd stick to other things they could do to help. {{WHsig|11:44, April 25, 2015 (UTC)}}
::I don't think having a requirement for proficiency is a good idea, but we might ''suggest'' that volunteers be fluent in English. - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 15:19, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 
== I can has membership? ==
 
Or have I been too inactive so far? [[User:Mathetesalexandrou|<span style="color:#00CC33">MILK FOR THE UNYUUFEX, </span><span style="color:#00AADD">FLAT CHEST FOR THE CUTENESS THRONE, </span><span style="color:#88AAAA">SKULLS FOR THE SKULL PROBES </span>]] ([[user talk:Mathetesalexandrou]]) 03:05, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
 
:<s>{{Not done|Declined}}: One edit in over a month? gtfo...</s>
 
:Nah, I'm kidding. If you think you can turn the game around, feel free to add yourself to the [[The Sims Wiki:Fanon Peer Review Team#Members|list]]. --I am [[User:K6ka|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] [[User talk:K6ka|<span style="color:#0080FF"><sup>Talk to me!</sup></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/K6ka|<span style="color:#0B4C5F"><sub>See what I have done</sub></span>]] 03:08, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
::Welcome to the <s>cult</s> group. I was hoping you'd join up! - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 03:10, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
:::But not just yet. I think I'll join up after getting winded up in the wiki action once more. [[User:Mathetesalexandrou|<span style="color:#00CC33">MILK FOR THE UNYUUFEX, </span><span style="color:#00AADD">FLAT CHEST FOR THE CUTENESS THRONE, </span><span style="color:#88AAAA">SKULLS FOR THE SKULL PROBES </span>]] ([[user talk:Mathetesalexandrou]]) 03:11, July 23, 2015 (UTC)