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::::I agree with what LIR says, the rule of 2nd is very nice. I've sort of used it myself when suggesting new stuff, if there's no 2nd, there's no need to keep discussing the issue. '''[[User:Duskey|Duskey]]'''<small>([[User_talk:Duskey|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]])</small> 04:59, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
:When will all these position discussion's be done?--[[user:Monster2821| Danny (Monster2821)]]<small> ([[user talk:Monster2821|talk]])([[special:random|random page]])</small> 22:06, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
== Opening the requests page ==
:''I moved part of the conversation below into this subject, since it's not related to what is supposed to be discussed there.'' - [[User:LostInRiverview|Patrick (LostInRiverview)]]<small> ([[User_talk:LostInRiverview|talk]])([[User_blog:LostInRiverview|blog]])([[Special:Random|random page]])</small> 23:29, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
Can i "open" Request pages now?--[[user:Monster2821| Danny (Monster2821)]]<small> ([[user talk:Monster2821|talk]])([[special:random|random page]])</small> 20:07, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
Since nobody is responding i'm "opening" the request pages at 6:00P.M. tonight, if nobody still responds.--[[user:Monster2821| Danny (Monster2821)]]<small> ([[user talk:Monster2821|talk]])([[special:random|random page]])</small> 20:53, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
:I think it would be better to wait until some time next week. Two of our active admins (and our only active beaucrat) are absent at the moment and on the 28th, the vote on inactive admins ends. After that we can demote the ones who are inactive and then see if we need more. '''[[User:Duskey|Duskey]]'''<small>([[User_talk:Duskey|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]])</small> 21:02, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
::Since only Bureaucrats can decide who and when to promote, I think only bureaucrats can open or close the page. I think admins and members can voice their opinion as to whether requests should be accepted, but I don't think admins really have any control over it. -- [[User:LostInRiverview|Patrick (LostInRiverview)]]<small> ([[User_talk:LostInRiverview|talk]])([[User_blog:LostInRiverview|blog]])([[Special:Random|random page]])</small> 21:49, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
:what about community consensus and nobody should be the boss.--[[user:Monster2821| Danny (Monster2821)]]<small> ([[user talk:Monster2821|talk]])([[special:random|random page]])</small> 21:56, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
::TSW is not a democracy. Consensus is good, but there's a reason certain users are given those special privileges and not others. The bureaucrats (aka a morris) can open or close the requests at their own choosing, whether or not the general community agrees. For the sake of the wiki, it would be best for them to follow community consensus, but in no way are they '''required''' to. So, in this case, a morris ''is'' the boss. -- [[User:LostInRiverview|Patrick (LostInRiverview)]]<small> ([[User_talk:LostInRiverview|talk]])([[User_blog:LostInRiverview|blog]])([[Special:Random|random page]])</small> 22:02, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
That's why i want to become a 'crat to help the '''"boss"''' out.--[[user:Monster2821| Danny (Monster2821)]]<small> ([[user talk:Monster2821|talk]])([[special:random|random page]])</small> 22:12, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
::Well, to be blunt, you can't become a bureaucrat until she lets you become a bureaucrat. That won't happen until she decides to open the page. Nothing you or I or any other admin can do will speed up that process. You need to be patient. -- [[User:LostInRiverview|Patrick (LostInRiverview)]]<small> ([[User_talk:LostInRiverview|talk]])([[User_blog:LostInRiverview|blog]])([[Special:Random|random page]])</small> 22:15, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
:::Also, if you can't tell, I'm trying to move this process along. A formal vote is totally unnecessary in this case, and in my own opinion, the sooner we can get a new bureaucrat, the better. Not that I want to replace a morris, but I get the feeling that she has too much stuff to have to be responsible for, and it's not fair to her to make her do all of it alone when we have others who are willing and able to do it if given the chance. So I think this page should be opened up as soon as it is wise to do so, but we can't rush into these things. And, as I stated, in the end it's her call. -- [[User:LostInRiverview|Patrick (LostInRiverview)]]<small> ([[User_talk:LostInRiverview|talk]])([[User_blog:LostInRiverview|blog]])([[Special:Random|random page]])</small> 22:19, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
I might have to leave a request for bureaucrat on central wiki.--[[user:Monster2821| Danny (Monster2821)]]<small> ([[user talk:Monster2821|talk]])([[special:random|random page]])</small> 22:35, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
::You can't do that. The only way Wikia will give you bureaucrat rights is if the wiki and its bureaucrat are inactive, which they aren't. -- [[User:LostInRiverview|Patrick (LostInRiverview)]]<small> ([[User_talk:LostInRiverview|talk]])([[User_blog:LostInRiverview|blog]])([[Special:Random|random page]])</small> 23:03, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
What if all 'crat's are are inactive but not the wiki?--[[user:Monster2821| Danny (Monster2821)]]<small> ([[user talk:Monster2821|talk]])([[special:random|random page]])</small> 00:50, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
::A morris isn't inactive, she's just on vacation. Since she's active, she's the one that decides who is what. That means if she doesn't want to give you or anyone else bureaucrat priviledges, that's her decision. -- [[User:LostInRiverview|Patrick (LostInRiverview)]]<small> ([[User_talk:LostInRiverview|talk]])([[User_blog:LostInRiverview|blog]])([[Special:Random|random page]])</small> 01:33, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
:What '''if ''' she leaves and becomes inactive , then i can put a rfb on central wikia?--[[user:Monster2821| Danny (Monster2821)]]<small> ([[user talk:Monster2821|talk]])([[special:random|random page]])</small> 03:00, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
Also,my above comment was an example:the one i just wrote and a while ago.
== Ratification of Requests language ==
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I don't think a formal "two-week vote" is necessary here on whether these are accepted. Rather, if there are any real disagreements to these changes, I will withdraw or modify the proposal. Otherwise, if these changes are made, I am in full support of ratifying the language on the Requests for Bureaucratship page ASAP, seeing no real major discussion or disagreement over the other policies on that page. -- [[User:LostInRiverview|Patrick (LostInRiverview)]]<small> ([[User_talk:LostInRiverview|talk]])([[User_blog:LostInRiverview|blog]])([[Special:Random|random page]])</small> 22:22, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
:last thing about my R.F.B.:can i put my request on the rfb's main page now?--[[user:Monster2821| Danny (Monster2821)]]<small> ([[user talk:Monster2821|talk]])([[special:random|random page]])</small> 23:26, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
:I like LIR's suggested changes. '''[[User:Duskey|Duskey]]'''<small>([[User_talk:Duskey|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]])</small> 13:04, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
::I've made the changes. Should there be a deadline for accepting seconds? --[[User:A_morris|a_morris]] <small>([[User_talk:A_morris|talk]])</small> 15:33, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
:::I'd say a week. If someone hasn't replied within a week, odds are low. -- [[User:LostInRiverview|Patrick (LostInRiverview)]]<small> ([[User_talk:LostInRiverview|talk]])([[User_blog:LostInRiverview|blog]])([[Special:Random|random page]])</small> 01:44, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
::::And the same for accepting the nomination? --[[User:A_morris|a_morris]] <small>([[User_talk:A_morris|talk]])</small> 02:15, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
::::Oooh... that is a good question. What if, say, a user were on vacation or absent... Yeah, a week I suppose. I doubt anyone would nominate someone who was absent, and if that were the case, they could simply nominate them again when they return. -- [[User:LostInRiverview|Patrick (LostInRiverview)]]<small> ([[User_talk:LostInRiverview|talk]])([[User_blog:LostInRiverview|blog]])([[Special:Random|random page]])</small> 02:44, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
:::::A week sounds good to me. '''[[User:Duskey|Duskey]]'''<small>([[User_talk:Duskey|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]])</small> 11:08, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
Alrighty - since the changes have been made and are accepted, I am in full support of the policy. -- [[User:LostInRiverview|Patrick (LostInRiverview)]]<small> ([[User_talk:LostInRiverview|talk]])([[User_blog:LostInRiverview|blog]])([[Special:Random|random page]])</small> 14:07, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
:It all looks good to me, I say we implement it, open for nominations and archive this discussion. '''[[User:Duskey|Duskey]]'''<small>([[User_talk:Duskey|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]])</small> 15:05, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
== nominate dharden ==
can i nominate [[User:Dharden]]?--[[user:Monster2821|Monster2821]] ([[user talk:Monster2821|talk]]) 22:39, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, since the requests page is still open. If you do, though, be sure to tell him that you did so he knows to go to the requests page and either accept or deny the nomination. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 22:45, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
== Close requests? ==
Should we close requests for bureaucrats now? --[[User:A_morris|a_morris]] <small>([[User_talk:A_morris|talk]])</small> 00:09, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
:i was thinking to ask that.--{{SUBST:Signatures/Monster2821}} 00:16, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, I think 3 active bureaucrats is enough. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 03:26, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
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