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{{Closed|resolved|Community has indicated support for changes to the Rollback request process. '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LiR</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 18:56, January 2, 2016 (UTC)}}
As a bureaucrat on The Sims Wiki, I and the other bureaucrats are sometimes expected to weigh in on the possibility of promoting new [[The Sims Wiki:Rollback|rollbackers]] through the [[TSW:RFR|RFR]] process. The RfR process gives the bureaucrats a large degree of discretion when deciding whether users are or are not qualified to take on rollback rights. The assent or refusal of a single bureaucrat can decide whether a user will ultimately be promoted. Rollbackers on The Sims Wiki are given access not only to the rollback tool – which is itself a powerful tool for fighting vandalism – but are also the only non-administrators allowed to use the [[Template:Warning|warning template]], and are the only users eligible to be nominated for [[TSW:RFA|administrator rights]]. It seems to me that allowing a single bureaucrat to control who is or is not allowed to access these rights and privileges may ultimately be misguided. However, at the same time, I do not feel that RfRs need to become fully drawn-out community discussions, as RfAs and RfBs are. Some kind of balance needs to be struck, I feel.
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I had, in fact, discussed the nomination with two other users privately over IRC, so it was not a "one person opinion". --I am [[User:K6ka|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] [[User talk:K6ka|<span style="color:#0080FF"><sup>Talk to me!</sup></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/K6ka|<span style="color:#0B4C5F"><sub>See what I have done</sub></span>]] 00:34, November 19, 2015 (UTC)
:In the spirit of full disclosure, K6ka did consult with me prior to making that nomination and I did privately indicate my support. However, I do believe C.Syde still has a valid point; to the outside observer, it would appear as though he chose a candidate and then immediately gave them a promotion. This gets more to the problems of having some wiki-related matters discussed off-wiki, but that's not the point of this discussion. I will say that, in the proposed procedure, such an issue would be a moot point, as the nominating user would never be in the position to promote without having at least a two-administrator concurrence on the request page. I should also add that my proposal would not include the nominating administrator/bureaucrat as one of the two administrators granting concurrence; in other words, if a bureaucrat or admin nominates a candidate for rollback, two ''other'' administrators or bureaucrats would need to support it, not just one. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LiR</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 05:10, November 19, 2015 (UTC)
::{{edit conflict}} I wasn't entirely sure whether or not it really was a one person opinion, but that's what it looked like from the outside, and I couldn't see any sources of evidence confirming what happened on the inside. But what you've said explains everything. ― '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 05:16, November 19, 2015 (UTC)
==Conclusion==
Given that this thread has been inactive for well over a month, and that those who commented here were in support of the proposal, I am closing this thread. Since a consensus appears to be met, I will be implementing the items proposed here. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LiR</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 18:56, January 2, 2016 (UTC)
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