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== It is time to stop this ==
 
As this conversation has been going on for a very long time with nothing to show for it. I think the following actions need to take place:
#[https://thesimswiki.com thesimswiki.com at Miraheze] should be closed down as an unauthorized copy of The Sims Wikia from FANDOM.
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:Why don't you try contacting the owner of the site rather than threatening legal action? I'm sure you are aware that legal threats actually ''worsen'' the situation rather than help it. We are here as a community working at a volunteer capacity; you can leave your legal red tape locked up in your attorney's office where it belongs, and come here without your hubris. Do us a favor and cut it with your witch-hunt. [[Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:A2C0:578:B5EF:3629:EFF9:CADE|2607:FEA8:A2C0:578:B5EF:3629:EFF9:CADE]] ([[User talk:2607:FEA8:A2C0:578:B5EF:3629:EFF9:CADE|talk]]) 20:57, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
 
 
:: I don't think anyone owes me an apology. I wasn't able to speak out of turn at the time that the questions were being asked because we were in the midst of figuring out our plans for upgrading the platform to the latest version of MediaWiki. Simply put, a forum post on a single wiki is not the place to disclose a massive project like that. I do apologize, however, for not returning to let y'all know about those plans once [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/Fandom_is_upgrading_to_a_modern_version_of_MediaWiki we announced them] . Since then, we've also announced [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/Community_Contract_for_the_New_Fandom_Platform the committments governing our work on the new platform] , which will be on MediaWiki 1.33 at launch. It will house all the wiki content in good standing and allow us to implement new features more quickly without the burden of our current technical debt, as well as give us access to modern extensions that would've otherwise had to have been reverse engineered onto the current platform. We should have a big blog post about the Unified Community Platform in the next week or so. In the meantime, Community Connect attendees got to talk a lot of about the UCP with us last month and they are encouraged to discuss it with other editors. No NDA. Also, [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/An_Update_on_the_Future_of_Featured_Video Featured Video has been altered] to focus on promoting the wikis and collecting data that will help build a replacement for the program. [[User:MisterWoodhouse|MisterWoodhouse]] ([[User talk:MisterWoodhouse|talk]]) 21:18, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
::: Thank you for the update. [[Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:A2C0:578:B5EF:3629:EFF9:CADE|2607:FEA8:A2C0:578:B5EF:3629:EFF9:CADE]] ([[User talk:2607:FEA8:A2C0:578:B5EF:3629:EFF9:CADE|talk]]) 21:25, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
::::I do '''not''' wish to take sides. But I do need to voice a few of the concerns that have been brought up by myself as well as some of the users that are supportive of the migration. Firstly, there are a number of things that Miraheze has to offer that are not on offer on Fandom. This includes but isn't limited to the following: No ads, Bureaucrats being able to modify usergroup permissions themselves, and having access to certain usergroup permissions that local usergroups on Fandom do not have access to.
 
::::One major concern that I must agree with is the number of MediaWiki messages that aren't editable to local Administrators. Most sites including Miraheze allow local Administrators to edit all messages freely. I can understand that there are some MediaWiki messages on Fandom that should not be open for local Administrators to edit, such as the system messages that would affect areas of the wiki that would violate the customisation policy. But I feel that unless there's a very good reason that certain messages shouldn't be editable by Administrators, that general MediaWiki messages should be unlocked for editing.
 
::::The way I see it, the reason most system messages were locked from editing was because of a security attack that occurred in August 2015. But it's been ages since that time, and only a small amount of system messages are currently open to editing. The vast majority of system messages don't accept executable code, and are therefore unnecessary to be locked from editing. Personally I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the vast majority of system messages are open for Administrators to edit once we've upgraded to MediaWiki 1.33 and most - if not all - security problems from the current version of MediaWiki are resolved as a result of the upgrade. ― <span style="font:bold 108% 'Constantia';">[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="#800000">C.Syde</font>]]</span> <span style="font: 108% 'Adobe Garamond Pro';">([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="#000000">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="#000000">contribs</font>]])</span> 02:22, February 10, 2020 (UTC)
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