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Darn no nudist trait. We have "never nude" witch wild be is opposite [[User:Chaos Shepherd|Chaos Shepherd]] 14:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:Inappropriate the opposite of "Never Nude". --[[User:A_morris|a_morris]] <small>([[User_talk:A_morris|talk]])</small> 03:42, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
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<br />Each trait should also be a title so it can be linked to directly from other articles and from this top table.
 
''The new trait index has been moved to [[Trait (The Sims 3)]].''
{|align="center" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" style="border-collapse: collapse; border-color: black;"
|-style="background:#efefef;"
!List of Traits
!Mental
!Physical
!Social
!Lifestyle
!Hidden
|-valign="top"
|style="background:#efefef;" rowspan=2|[[File:TS3-base-game-icon.jpg]] [[The Sims 3]]
|[[File:Trait absentminded.png|24px]][[Absent-Minded]]<br />[[File:Trait artistic.png|24px]][[Artistic]]<br />[[File:Trait bookworm.png|24px]][[Bookworm]]<br />[[File:Trait anti art.png|24px]][[Can't Stand Art]]<br />[[File:Trait computerwhiz.png|24px]][[Computer Whiz]]<br />[[File:Trait exitable.png|24px]][[Excitable]]<br />[[File:Trait genius.png|24px]][[Genius]]<br />[[File:Trait greenthumb.png|24px]][[Green Thumb]]<br />[[File:Trait handy.png|24px]][[Handy]]<br />[[File:Trait insane.png|24px]][[Insane]]<br />[[File:Trait naturalcook.png|24px]][[Natural Cook]]<br />[[File:Trait neurotic.png|24px]][[Neurotic]]<br />[[File:Trait virtuoso.png|24px]][[Virtuoso]]
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|[[File:Trait athletic.png|24px]][[Athletic]]<br />[[File:Trait brave.png|24px]][[Brave]]<br />[[File:Trait clumsy.png|24px]][[Clumsy]]<br />[[File:Trait couchpotato.png|24px]][[Couch Potato]]<br />[[File:Trait coward.png|24px]][[Coward]]<br />[[File:Trait heavysleeper.png|24px]][[Heavy Sleeper]]<br />[[File:Trait hydrophobic.png|24px]][[Hydrophobic]]<br />[[File:Trait lightsleeper.png|24px]][[Light Sleeper]]<br />[[File:Trait lucky.png|24px]][[Lucky]]<br />[[File:Trait neat.png|24px]][[Neat]]<br />[[File:Trait nevernude.png|24px]][[Never Nude]]<br />[[File:Trait slob.png|24px]][[Slob]]<br />[[File:Trait unlucky.png|24px]][[Unlucky]]
<!-- 13 traits -->
|[[File:Trait charismatic.png|24px]][[Charismatic]]<br />[[File:Trait anti commitment.png|24px]][[Commitment Issues]]<br />[[File:DislikesChildren.jpg|24px]][[Dislikes Children]]<br />[[File:Trait easilyimpressed.png|24px]][[Easily Impressed]]<br />[[File:Trait flirty.png|24px]][[Flirty]]<br />[[File:Trait friendly.png|24px]][[Friendly]]<br />[[File:Trait goodhumor.png|24px]][[Good Sense of Humor]]<br />[[File:Trait goodkisser.png|24px]][[Great Kisser]]<br />[[File:Trait grumpy.png|24px]][[Grumpy]]<br />[[File:Trait hopelessromantic.png|24px]][[Hopeless Romantic]]<br />[[File:Trait innapropriate.png|24px]][[Inappropiate]]<br />[[File:Trait loner.png|24px]][[Loner]]<br />[[File:Trait loser.png|24px]][[Loser]]<br />[[File:Trait meanspirited.png|24px]][[Mean Spirited]]<br />[[File:Trait mooch.png|24px]][[Mooch]]<br />[[File:Trait nohumor.png|24px]][[No Sense of Humor]]<br />[[File:Trait partyanimal.png|24px]][[Party Animal]]<br />[[File:Trait shmoozer.png|24px]][[Schmoozer]]<br />[[File:Trait snob.png|24px]][[Snob]]<br />[[File:Trait unflirty.png|24px]][[Unflirty]]
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|[[File:Trait ambitious.png|24px]][[Ambitious]]<br />[[File:Trait angler.png|24px]][[Angler]]<br />[[File:Trait childish.png|24px]][[Childish]]<br />[[File:Trait daredevil.png|24px]][[Daredevil]]<br />[[File:Trait evil.png|24px]][[Evil]]<br />[[File:Trait familyoriented.png|24px]][[Family-Oriented]]<br />[[File:Trait frugal.png|24px]][[Frugal]]<br />[[File:Trait good.png|24px]][[Good]]<br />[[File:Trait hatesoutdoors.png|24px]][[Hates the Outdoors]]<br />[[File:Trait hotheaded.png|24px]][[Hot-Headed]]<br />[[File:Trait klepto.png|24px]][[Kleptomaniac]]<br />[[File:Trait lovesoutdoors.png|24px]][[Loves The Outdoors]]<br />[[File:Trait overemotional.png|24px]][[Over-Emotional]]<br />[[File:Trait perfectionist.png|24px]][[Perfectionist]]<br />[[File:Trait anti tv.png|24px]][[Technophobe]]<br />[[File:Trait vegetarian.png|24px]][[Vegetarian]]<br />[[File:Trait workaholic.png|24px]][[Workaholic]]
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|[[File:Trait burglar.png|24px]][[List of Traits#Hidden Traits|Burglar]]<br />[[File:Trait canapprehendburglar.png|24px]][[List of Traits#Hidden Traits|Can Apprehend Burglar]]<br />[[File:Trait cansalute.png|24px]][[List of Traits#Hidden Traits|Can Salute]]<br />[[File:Trait immunetofire.png|24px]][[List of Traits#Hidden Traits|Immune to Fire]]<br />[[File:Trait makesnomesses.png|24px]][[List of Traits#Hidden Traits|Makes No Messes]]<br />[[File:Trait pizzaappreciator.png|24px]][[List of Traits#Hidden Traits|Pizza Appreciator]]<br />[[File:Trait pyromaniac.png|24px]][[List of Traits#Hidden Traits|Pyromaniac]]<br />[[File:Trait rocker.png|24px]][[List of Traits#Hidden Traits|Rocker]]
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|-align=center style="background:#efefef;"
|13 traits
|13 traits
|20 traits
|17 traits
|8 traits
|-valign="top"
|style="background:#efefef;" rowspan=2|[[File:TS3-EP1-World-Adventures-icon.jpg]] [[World Adventures]]
|[[File:WA Photographers-Eye.png|24px]][[Photographer's Eye]] <!-- 1 trait -->
|[[File:Disciplined.jpg|24px]][[Disciplined]] <!-- 1 trait -->
|
|[[File:Trait adventurous.png|24px]][[Adventurous]] <!-- 1 trait -->
|[[List of Traits#Hidden Traits|Asian Culture]]<br />[[List of Traits#Hidden Traits|Egyptian Culture]]<br />[[List of Traits#Hidden Traits|French Culture]] <!-- 3 traits -->
|-align=center style="background:#efefef;"
|1 trait
|1 trait
|
|1 trait
|3 traits
|-valign="top"
|style="background:#efefef;" rowspan=2|[[File:Ambitio.jpg|32px]] [[Ambitions]]
|[[File:Trait eccentric.png|24px]][[Eccentric]]<br />[[File:Trait perceptive.png|24px]][[Perceptive]]<br />[[File:Trait savvy sculptor.png|24px]][[Savvy Sculptor]] <!-- 3 traits -->
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|[[File:Trait bornsalesman.png|24px]][[Born Salesman|Born Sales(wo)man]]<br />[[File:Trait dramatic.png|24px]][[Dramatic]] <!-- 2 traits -->
|[[File:Trait environmentally conscious.png|24px]][[Eco-Friendly]] <!-- 1 trait -->
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|-align=center style="background:#efefef;"
|3 traits
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|2 traits
|1 trait
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|-align=center style="background:#efefef;"
|rowspan=2 valign=bottom|'''Total Traits'''
|17 traits
|14 traits
|22 traits
|19 traits
|rowspan=2 valign=bottom|+11 hidden traits
|-align=center style="background:#efefef;"
|colspan=4|83 traits
|}
 
Any thoughts are welcome. [[User:Duskey|Duskey]] 09:36, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
:That's a good idea, similar to the [[Skill]] article. If we give each trait its own page I would suggest moving the table to [[Trait (The Sims 3)]] and keep this page as an alphabetical list only with no descriptions. --[[User:A_morris|a_morris]] <small>([[User_talk:A_morris|talk]])</small> 18:04, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
::Maybe instead of the icon of the game on the left column, why not just break it up into sections? (as in, them <nowiki>==Game version/name/expansion pack...thing==</nowiki> sections)--[[User:Dramartistic|Reimi~]] 21:10, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, the skill table is sort of similar. Each trait should, in my opinion, have its own page so it can be discussed and everything the trait unlocks or enables can be added. If we do that, then I'd suggest that we only show the ingame short description of the trait on the lists. On each individual trait page we then list the detailed description also from ingame (when you actually have a sim with the trait) and differ it from what that actually means. At the moment the ingame description is mixed with user comments and observations. I'm not sure what you're suggesting Reimi. [[User:Duskey|Duskey]] 23:57, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
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:::::::::::Also, maybe we should add the new ambitions traits first so people can start using the talk pages, I'm sure they're more exciting these days. I'm still abit oblivious as to what Reimi was talking about earlier. If we go ahead and implement the above table in the list of traits (and get all traits into their own pages) do we ditch the alphabetic TOC? With these two changes in mind people can either search this wiki directly or use their browser to search the table above to find a trait, I don't see a real need for a specific alphabet listing. [[User:Duskey|Duskey]] 20:29, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::I fiddled with the table again and made trait counters. Too much? [[User:Duskey|Duskey]] 08:45, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
===Finalizing===
 
Alright, all traits are now on their own pages. The table is as good as it's gonna get this time around (unless anyone has some feedback). I suggest we move the table to the [[List of Traits]], delete the old info there, BUT keep the alphabetic sorting of trait names with ''Main article'' link to each individual trait page. There's alot of pages linking to letters on the list of traits and they should be sorted before we delete the old info completely. There's still the matter of hidden and dropped traits, should they stay at the bottom of the list? [[User_talk:Duskey|| Duskey |]] 17:09, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
: I have moved the table to [[Trait (The Sims 3)]]. --[[User:A_morris|a_morris]] <small>([[User_talk:A_morris|talk]])</small> 20:14, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
::Awesome work everyone! [[User_talk:Duskey|| Duskey |]] 22:43, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
-- <small>(Links edited - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 14:22, May 26, 2014 (UTC))</small>
== Progress on Traits ==
 
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Umm... are we done? There are no more red links up on that table... If so, what's the next step? [[User:LostInRiverview|LostInRiverview]] 06:05, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
:Next step would be to make sure we caught all the redirects (I'm on it). I'd like some others to comment on the table before we move it to the [[List of Traits]] page. Also before that, check the history to see if there's info that has been added while we've been creating individual pages for the traits before we delete it. Finally when all that is done, a little '''heads up!''' to the community would be nice since they might wonder where their traits went. [[User_talk:Duskey|| Duskey |]] 06:32, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
::All links in the table now function properly. [[User_talk:Duskey|| Duskey |]] 06:48, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Standardization ==
''The following discussion has been copied to [[:Category talk:Traits]] and [[The Sims Wiki talk:Project Simology/Manual of style]] (with a summary on [[The Sims Wiki:Project Simology/Manual of style]]) for future reference.'' --[[User:A_morris|a_morris]] <small>([[User_talk:A_morris|talk]])</small> 20:23, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
I didn't want to continue that thread under that section (it can get quite long) so I started a new section.
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<Image> '''Trait A''' is a <mental, physical, social, lifestyle> [[Trait (The Sims 3)|trait]] in ''<game>''. <It conflicts with <Trait B> and is available at <age> (if this information is not available or not known by me, I leave it blank)>
 
''The in-game Trait description is here, italicized''
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