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Hello, everyone. I have added this article to this database because it seems that Mrs. Crumplebottom is a
== I couldn't agree more ==
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I think we need more pages like this- special NPCs. We need one for the penguin, evil mascot, social bunnies... one step at a time!
Whoever wrote this page is a genius!
== PRUDNECE Crumplebottom ==
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PRUDE- is what she is!
Anyone else see a connection here??
Prudence Crumplebottom's grave pic is greyed out. She is dead.
If NPC means "Non-Player Character" wouldn't babies be NPC's? -Mjs961 02:22 , 21,March 2009
== Her Maiden Name ==
How can her father be George Crumplebottom? She should have a maiden name. Maybe it was Robert Crumplebottom's father. --[[User:Bayoubash|Bayoubash]] 09:02, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry. I accidentley put down Crumplebottom. I checked on some website. Her parents are named Athena Marshall and George Marshall (nee` Kendall). She also has a son but he's a townie.
I made a minor edit .since we know she has a niece Elmira Clamp, but we do not know she has the maiden name Clamp. so i tookthje sentevne regarding her maiden name out . since it was confirmed to Agnes Crumplebottom. but since the game make Agnes and Mrs Crumplebottom seperate,should we say it is her middle name? [[User:FREEDOM 55|FREEDOM 55]]
== CHILDREN ==
I found something out. She has a son. It's [[Goopy GilsCarbo]]! [[User:Joethatblackguy]]
I agree with Joethatblackguy -- Thehvnteam
I disagree completely. She couldn't possibly be Goopy's mother. That's completely false. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.
== Wrong Template ==
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Please leave information about [[Agnes Crumplebottom]] out of this article and especially out of the infobox as it was not meant to contain information from two Sims. Apparently it has been confirmed that they are one and the same, (though I could not find a source that did not reference here), however they are treated differently in The Sims and The Sims 2 and should have separate pages that are kept separate. --[[User:A_morris|a_morris]] <small>([[User_talk:A_morris|talk]])</small> 21:26, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Miss Crumplebottom appears in Sims 1. She wears a long, straight, dress with a button-up overcoat, along with tight shoes, pearls, a pillbox-hat with a small flower-patterned pin, a tight bun, and her large, dark purse. Her dress is grey colored (Unlike Mrs. Crumplebottom's dress, which is tanned cream colored). Her hair is grey and is always tied in a very tight bun. She's best friends with her sister Cornelia Goth. The main history about her is that her husband dies, leaving her bitter and rude, no sense of Romance left in her. He haunted her house and chased off any visitors that came to visit her or might start a relationship with her.
They are not the same people and Mrs.Crumplebottom i believe is not related to Agnes or any of her family. Her name just happens to be Crumplebottom. I say they are'nt related because her name goes with her actions when ever someone does something that erks her she gets her Bottom in a Crumple thats why they gave her that name to confuse you. There are alot of sims with names that matches their: actions, clothing, or personality for instance, in strangetown when going to 88 road to nowhere (a clothing store) there is a cashier name Haber Das which means someone who sells clothing and goods and old fashion clothing. So maybe Mrs.Crumplebottom's name goes with her feelings. And Agnes can't be Mrs.Crumplebottom because when SimPE is used Mrs.Crumplebottom's name is said to be '''''Missy Crumplebottom''''' Maybe Missy is Agnes's daughter because Missy is younger than Agnes, though she Mrs. as if she was married to someone with the Crumplebottom name hmmm, Or Maybe Agnes's second husband Robert got married to Mrs.Crumplebottom before her. ChaoticRuins, May 26, 2012
To: [[User:Bayoubash|Bayoubash]] The Sims 2 takes 25 years after The Sims 1, so Agnes Crumplebottom would DEFINITELY be dead by The Sims 2. So the developers just created a new distant relative with the same last name to fill in her place. Unless Agnes got the elixer of life potion and recieved the positive effect, which I highly doubt. [[User:DarkSuicune2000|DarkSuicune2000]] ([[User talk:DarkSuicune2000|talk]]) 01:12, March 17, 2015 (UTC)
== How to get Mrs. Crumplebottom and her husband back together (sims 3 only!) NO CHEATS! ==
I got Mrs Crumplebottom and her husband back together in the sims 3. heres how:
First you make a random sim and get them to move in with Mrs. Crumplebottom and then you kill the random sim. After about a day you get a opportunity called "Oh my ghost!" it tells you to take the remains of the dead sim to the science lab for some "testing". Instead of taking the dead sims tombstone take Mrs Crumplebottom's husband's to the science lab. When she comes out there will be a fully controllable ghost version of Mrs Curumplebottoms husband in your family! They can even have kids!
:Thanks for the tip! This has been added to [[Resurrecting tips]]. --[[User:A_morris|a_morris]] <small>([[User_talk:A_morris|talk]])</small> 15:22, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
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Actually she is not old at all in TS2 when SimPE is used Adult is checked out not Elder so she is actually an Adult and when making her Selectable you can have a baby with her even Females can because when SimPE is used Male is checked out not Female so she is actually a mixed up character she's an Elder that can do Adult things. ChaoticRuins, May 26, 2012
She's not that old, she's about four Sim days younger than Mortimer Goth. Yes she is quite old but not very old. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.
== The Sims 3 Late Night ==
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:There's certainly a reference to it, though we won't know if it's true. The other facts display in the source are true though. We have no reason to distrust that site, so let's keep the info. '''--[[User:Duskey|<span style="color:#344790;">Duskey</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Duskey|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]]</sup>''' 10:24, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
:Fine ! :).<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:RoseGui|RoseGui]] ([[User talk:RoseGui|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RoseGui|contribs]]) (UTC) - Please sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></small>
== Mrs. Crumplebottom in Sims Generations? ==
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<p style="text-align: center;">Even top rated comment thinks so too: http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7951/screenhunter01may280949.png</p>
<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Yellowcrown|Yellowcrown]] ([[User talk:Yellowcrown|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Yellowcrown|contribs]]) (UTC) - Please sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></small>
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: [[File:Crumple.png|300px]]
:::In-game. Also in [[Package editor#SimPE|SimPE]] you can find this ofcourse. (that's how I discovered it) [[User:Tiezel|Tiezel]] ([[User talk:Tiezel|talk]]) 18:52, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
::::Hey, that's interesting! Hmm, I suppose we could rename it, and I hope it wouldn't be too controversial. Now, I wonder if the rest of CrumpleBottoms in Pleasantview also has the capital letter. I'll check it out. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 03:56, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
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==Mrs. Crumplebottom's Mother==
Some players including myself believe that Mrs. Crumplebottom could be the daughter to Agnes Crumplebottom and Erik Darling. Although it is a strong possibility, it would be inconsisting seeing as she did not return in the Sims 3.
:I'm not even sure where this theory originated from. She can't possibly be their children since Erik has already died before having any children. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 05:46, December 17, 2013 (UTC)
::I wouldn't know, but I didn't copy it from anyone else. All I know is that the developers obviously needed a new Mrs. Crumplebottom since Agnes was already dead. I don't think they'd even confirmed that Agnes was the "Miss Crumplebottom" at that time. If you just think about it, the possibility of Missus being Agnes' daughter is more accurate than any other possibility. Agnes was the only Crumplebottom who could've had her since all the other Crumplebottoms probably would've either been too old or have already had children. Missus is normally a few Sim days behind Mortimer in gameplay. Agnes could've had Missus but for some reason their relationship wasn't revealed. I'm not saying this theory is correct, but it's the most accurate one people, including myself have thought up. Mrs. Crumplebottom didn't appear in the Sims 3 probably because she was simply made to resemble Miss Crumplebottom for the Sims 2. Agnes' bitter alter ego could've been passed on to Missus. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.
:::I didn't remember where it was confirmed either, but if it's widely known that Miss Crumplebottom is Agnes, then it should've been confirmed at some point when I wasn't there.
:::Mrs. Crumplebottom doesn't necessarily have to be Agnes' daughter just because the other Crumplebottoms might've been too old. There could just be other Crumplebottoms that are simply not shown in this game, hence the "distant relative". Take an example at [[Alto family]]. Anyone would think Nick was the only child, but he actually had a brother when Hidden Springs was released. Who knows how many siblings they could have if EA just wanted to "expand" their stories to create theories? And this theory is just one example of it. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 14:18, January 1, 2014 (UTC)
:::Either way, I still believe that Mrs. Crumplebottom is Agnes' daughter until further evidence turns up. I'm not going to let my beliefs get in the way if others if they wish. That's just what I believe because it sounds more accurate than the other theories I could otherwise believe, not counting the "distant relative" one. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.
==Mrs. Crumplebottom's Nature==
Is it true that Mrs. Crumplebottom actually smacks other Sims with her purse. Whenever she sees any of my Sims doing romantic interactions, she ignores it completely. All she does is lecture Sims for trying to interact with her, strip naked, go swimming, changing into their underwear. She also responds when other Sims put soap into fountains. Her hobbies include playing cards, bowling and drinking at the bar. It could just be that I don't have Seasons or Bon Voyage.-- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.
:She smacks public kissers and WooHooers in my game, so if she is ignoring your Sims, I would have some concern. Go to C:\Program Files\EA Games\The Sims 2 + Your Latest Expansion/Stuff Pack (should be the one you run the game with)\TSData\Res\Objects. There should be a file called "objects.package". Check to see what date it was modified. Now put your CD in (the one you run the game with), go to My Computer/Computer, right-click on it and select "Explore". Open up the file called "compressed.zip" and click on "Res", and then "Objects". If you have the deluxe editions, look in EP2 (with Deluxe) or SP4 (Double Deluxe). If the date in the Program Files location differs from the one in your CD, chances are the file has become corrupted. I bring this up because Mrs. CrumpleBottom's character file is located in the objects.package file, and that file is commonly corrupted. If it is corrupted, copy the objects.package file from the CD and replace the one in the Program Files location. Then, run all of the patches released for the game ([http://www.modthesims.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:TS2_Patches Link]). [[:User:K6ka|K6ka]] ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] | [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contrib]]) | [http://k6ka.newgrounds.com NG Userpage] | [http://tlaststand.wikia.com/wiki/User:K6ka The Last Stand Wiki] | [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:K6ka The Sims Wiki] | [http://www.youtube.com/user/k6ka1 YouTube] | [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/K6ka Wikipedia] 21:55, December 13, 2013 (UTC)
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::She smacked with her purse only if my Sims WooHooed in public in my game. She ignored them when they kissed or made out or so. Otherwise, she would always only lecture my Sims. At that time, maybe my game had been a bit wonky already. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 05:45, December 17, 2013 (UTC)
Except that it's been the same in my gameplay, regardless whether I use other people's computers. I'd never uninstall and reinstall my Sims games on my computer. The stuff I've done there is priceless, and anyway there seems to be no fatal corruption. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.
:Corruption sometimes hides itself from view and you don't know what's going on until your neighborhood or your entire game suddenly becomes unplayable. [[Game guide:Avoiding corruption|This game guide]] may be of use. [[:User:K6ka|K6ka]] ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] | [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contrib]]) | [http://k6ka.newgrounds.com NG Userpage] | [http://tlaststand.wikia.com/wiki/User:K6ka The Last Stand Wiki] | [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:K6ka The Sims Wiki] | [http://www.youtube.com/user/k6ka1 YouTube] | [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/K6ka Wikipedia] 04:42, January 1, 2014 (UTC)
There may actually be a little bit of corruption on my game, but it's so small you could just ignore it. I do seem to have a knack for avoiding serious corruption, thanks to my gaming skills. Still, I'm not going to pretend that nothing could go wrong. When there's major risks ahead, I usually know when not to take them. I did seriously corrupt the game once. But that was on another computer, and I was willing to take those risks. I risk those sorts of things on other computers, never my own. Once again I'm not going to pretend that nothing could still go wrong. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 07:12, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
==Family Trees==
Would it be safe to use SimPE, to add Mrs. Crumplebottom to Agnes' family tree, so that the game recognizes her as Agnes' daughter. It seems completely safe but I just want to be sure before I repeat it. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.
:Since family ties are stored in the Neighborhoods.package file and not the character file of the Sim, I don't think this will cause game corruption. However, I would still refrain from doing so, because the exact nature of these NPCs are unknown. Make your objects.package file read-only and backup your neighborhood before attempting. [[:User:K6ka|K6ka]] ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] | [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contrib]]) | [http://k6ka.newgrounds.com NG Userpage] | [http://tlaststand.wikia.com/wiki/User:K6ka The Last Stand Wiki] | [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:K6ka The Sims Wiki] | [http://www.youtube.com/user/k6ka1 YouTube] | [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/K6ka Wikipedia] 04:53, January 1, 2014 (UTC)
I'm sure it won't because I've already impregnated one of my [[Sims]] with the [[Therapist]] and she gave birth to a baby boy who is now a [[Teenager]]. No corruption has occurred. So I think what you've written is correct. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 10:39, July 29, 2014 (UTC)
== Adding Information about the Old Hag ==
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Is it really necessary to add certain character data about Mrs. CrumpleBottom when it's just a game corruptible measure (e.g. Interests, Bio, Personality, etc.)? We already know that she's an object NPC, and object NPCs are treated much differently than playable Sims. [[:User:K6ka|K6ka]] ([[:User talk:K6ka|talk]] | [[:Special:Contributions/K6ka|contrib]]) | [http://k6ka.newgrounds.com NG Userpage] | [http://tlaststand.wikia.com/wiki/User:K6ka The Last Stand Wiki] | [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User:K6ka The Sims Wiki] | [http://www.youtube.com/user/k6ka1 YouTube] | [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/K6ka Wikipedia] 23:23, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
:I don't know, but I'd say it's not necessary. Who needs her interests and personality if we can't even talk to her? [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 16:09, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
::I also feel like it's a little tacky and unsuitable. The old layout looked a lot better, without the Simology data. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 16:26, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
:::I'm inclined to remove the skills and interests of Mrs. CrumpleBottom. Obviously, there's really no point in stating these stats. What are they good for anyway? Mrs. C doesn't go to work or play chess with you, so the skills are useless... and interest is a no-no because you can't even talk to her! They're pretty much meaningless data found in SimPE. Unless there's a pretty good reason to keep these information, please state here. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 17:38, January 10, 2014 (UTC)
I just think it's necessary, because some people might actually want to know what her skill points and interests are. Removing these skills etc would remove her from the category for Sims that have mastered a skill and then she might be added to the category for sims without interests which wouldn't be accurate. It's not just because I was the one who added all that information. And anyway isn't it possible for Mrs. Crumplebottom to have fights with your Sims in-game? People must wonder why she usually wins fights. I'm just trying to make a point. If the info is tacky and unsuitable I reckon it should be modified to make it more suitable rather than deleting it. Logically if she was an ordinary Sim this information would be necessary and the information is true in any case. -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 07:49, January 24, 2014 (UTC)
I've made some modifications to the page, and hopefully if the previous layout didn't work then this one will. At least it's closer to what I think you consider more "tidy" and "suitable". -- '''[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]''' ([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]) 08:14, January 24, 2014 (UTC)
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== Eye color ==
I have changed her eye color from blue to grey 3 times in 3 separate years. I am not colorblind and her headshot shows grey eyes, but they are again listed as blue. There must be some reason for this, and I want to know. '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''' 16 April 2018
:If you look at her eyes in-game, or at an in-game screenshot, you can clearly see her eyes are light blue. [[User:Mariaw|Mariaw]] ([[User talk:Mariaw|talk]]) 17:50, April 16, 2018 (UTC)
::You're probably right, though I'll look for myself later. Then why are her eyes grey in the headshot? Just developer inconsistency? '''[[User talk:Elassint|Elassint]]''' 16 April 2018
:::I'm not sure. Her headshot certainly shows her with grey eyes, but her in-game appearance shows her with light blue eyes. My guess is that her eye colour was changed at some point during development and they simply never bothered to update her headshot. [[User:Mariaw|Mariaw]] ([[User talk:Mariaw|talk]]) 18:05, April 16, 2018 (UTC)
::::At some point I'll create two exact replicas of Mrs. Crumplebottom, one with light blue eyes and one with grey eyes. And then I'll extract the pictures with SimPE and verify which of the head shots looks like the default. And the results I get should hopefully settle things. I know that someone else may have tested this before, but I like to see things first hand. ― <span style="font-family:'Constantia'; font-weight:bold; font-size:108%;">[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]</span> <span style="font-family:'Adobe Garamond Pro'; font-size:108%;">([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]])</span> 21:42, April 16, 2018 (UTC)
:::::The images in Mrs Crumplebottom's gallery show her with light blue eyes, funnily enough. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 02:53, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
::::::That is to be expected, since that is the eye colour that she has, and the colour she is meant to have. I should also point out that normally it's unwise to judge a Sim's eye colour by looking at their head-shot, since the colour of the eyes aren't always very clear.
::::::For a lot of inexperienced users, it's very common to take a look at a Sim's head-shot that has dark blue eyes, and immediately assume that they have brown eyes, especially if they have dark skin. This is also the case with mistaking grey eyes for light blue, dark blue, or brown eyes and vice-versa.
::::::I spent a lot of my time checking the genetic files of Sims and correcting any incorrect information that I found, since years ago, a lot of users didn't check the genetic files or check the Sim's eye colours in-game, they just looked at their head-shots. In-fact the only eye colour that was very seldom mistaken for another eye colour is green. ― <span style="font-family:'Constantia'; font-weight:bold; font-size:108%;">[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]</span> <span style="font-family:'Adobe Garamond Pro'; font-size:108%;">([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]])</span> 03:12, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
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