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I'm not entirely convinced even if Graham said it himself. What exactly is a standalone neighborhood? He could very much just make up a term, but if the game treats Magnolia Promenade as a world in the files, then it ''is'' a world—a world with only 1 neighborhood. My friend has GTW, so I might be able to check this one day... Unless somebody else wants to check it out for me. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 08:14, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
I'm not entirely convinced even if Graham said it himself. What exactly is a standalone neighborhood? He could very much just make up a term, but if the game treats Magnolia Promenade as a world in the files, then it ''is'' a world—a world with only 1 neighborhood. My friend has GTW, so I might be able to check this one day... Unless somebody else wants to check it out for me. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 08:14, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
:The whole definition of "world" versus "neighborhood" is shaky at best. If Maxis calls it a neighborhood, then in my mind it's a neighborhood. If they call it a world, it's a world. This is, after all, the reason we changed TS3 neighborhoods to TS3 worlds - because Maxis was calling them worlds instead of neighborhoods. Additionally, let's consider for a second what it would mean if Magnolia Promenade is a world... it would not only be the smallest world ever (by far), it would also be smaller than any neighborhood - standalone or otherwise - in any game in the ''whole series''. It seems like a pretty big stretch to call 4 lots a world. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 13:18, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
:The whole definition of "world" versus "neighborhood" is shaky at best. If Maxis calls it a neighborhood, then in my mind it's a neighborhood. If they call it a world, it's a world. This is, after all, the reason we changed TS3 neighborhoods to TS3 worlds - because Maxis was calling them worlds instead of neighborhoods. Additionally, let's consider for a second what it would mean if Magnolia Promenade is a world... it would not only be the smallest world ever (by far), it would also be smaller than any neighborhood - standalone or otherwise - in any game in the ''whole series''. It seems like a pretty big stretch to call 4 lots a world. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 13:18, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
::I don't think it matters if it's the smallest world in TS4 series, even if it only contains 1 neighborhood. If the game treats it as a world, then it's a world, even if the SimGurus make up "standalone neighborhood." Sure, we did separate TS1, TS2, and TS4 into neighborhoods, and TS3 and TS4 into worlds, but Magnolia Promenade's scope is within TS4 only. We can't use the same statements that separated neighborhoods VS worlds between different series with this one. The case is different. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 08:42, April 11, 2015 (UTC)

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The Sims 3 Worlds

If we are to have a separate article of worlds from neighborhoods, it makes more sense if The Sims 3 worlds are kept here, not neighborhood. The term "world" has been used since The Sims 3 too. Nikel Talk Vote! 08:49, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

I don't think so. Neighborhoods in TS3 operated on a similar mechanic to those in TS2 and TS1, whereas TS4 worlds are an entirely new thing that hasn't existed up to this point. In The Sims 3, you could use the term "world", "neighborhood" and often "town" interchangeably to refer to the same thing, whereas in TS4 neighborhoods and worlds are not one in the same. -- LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 19:49, June 14, 2014 (UTC)
It's true that "worlds" in The Sims 4 is different on its own because the mechanism of how the town works in this game is different also. A "world" consists of several "neighborhoods", that consists of several lots (SimGuruGraham heavily emphasizes these terms a lot so we don't get confused) and so on and so forth. Clearly it's not very comparable with the other games' town system.
But frankly, the work of "worlds" in The Sims 3 is quite different from The Sims 2 in many ways, which is constituted by the mechanism of "open world". If you separate The Sims 4 "worlds" from the other series, it's unfair if you don't separate The Sims 3 "worlds". Nikel Talk Vote! 14:41, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
It's true that TS3 neighborhoods are different from TS1 and TS2 neighborhoods, since TS1 and TS2 didn't allow Sims to be outside of individual lots. But overall, TS3 "worlds" are more similar to the TS1/TS2 neighborhoods than they are to TS4 worlds. I think bringing TS3 worlds onto this page further confuses the idea of what worlds are; people who have played TS3 would get a mistaken impression of what a TS4 world is like. - LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 18:41, June 16, 2014 (UTC)

Broken link

The reference 3 link is broken.

129.16.120.239 (talk) 10:44, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

You're right. The link was incorrect. I've fixed it. Thanks for the heads up! Nikel Talk Vote! 11:38, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Magnolia Promenade is not a world?

I'm not entirely convinced even if Graham said it himself. What exactly is a standalone neighborhood? He could very much just make up a term, but if the game treats Magnolia Promenade as a world in the files, then it is a world—a world with only 1 neighborhood. My friend has GTW, so I might be able to check this one day... Unless somebody else wants to check it out for me. Nikel Talk Vote! 08:14, April 10, 2015 (UTC)

The whole definition of "world" versus "neighborhood" is shaky at best. If Maxis calls it a neighborhood, then in my mind it's a neighborhood. If they call it a world, it's a world. This is, after all, the reason we changed TS3 neighborhoods to TS3 worlds - because Maxis was calling them worlds instead of neighborhoods. Additionally, let's consider for a second what it would mean if Magnolia Promenade is a world... it would not only be the smallest world ever (by far), it would also be smaller than any neighborhood - standalone or otherwise - in any game in the whole series. It seems like a pretty big stretch to call 4 lots a world. -- LostInRiverview talkblogcontribs 13:18, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
I don't think it matters if it's the smallest world in TS4 series, even if it only contains 1 neighborhood. If the game treats it as a world, then it's a world, even if the SimGurus make up "standalone neighborhood." Sure, we did separate TS1, TS2, and TS4 into neighborhoods, and TS3 and TS4 into worlds, but Magnolia Promenade's scope is within TS4 only. We can't use the same statements that separated neighborhoods VS worlds between different series with this one. The case is different. Nikel Talk Vote! 08:42, April 11, 2015 (UTC)