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== Policy on Writing and Editing [[Player stories]] ==
''This page is an archived discussion. To discuss it currently please use the talk page.''


I would like to introduce some policy on writing and editing [[Player stories]]. Should the player stories submitted be left as-is or edited? Anything inappropriate or that contradicts existing policy should be removed immediately of course. But a lot of the stories have misspellings, bad grammar, etc. I think we need some guidelines on how much we (the editors) are allowed to edit, yet still resemble the personal style of the writer, which is the whole point of having these sections.
==The Sims Categories==


Points to consider:
''Continued from [[User:Narc/Categories Project]]''
* How long should a story be?
** We don't want them to write a novel. I suggest one paragraph, 3 to 5 sentences.
* Should links to other premade Sims be included if mentioned
** I don't really care, but it would mean a lot of editing
* Spelling & Grammar
** I think this should be corrected
* User tags, signatures, etc.
** I think these should be kept
* Personal opinions
** I think these should be kept


Any other suggestions?
I figured we should put this here since I foresee a problem should we not get this issue solved very soon. <u>I am personally suspending all category creations until we vote on our laid out plan.</u> This way everyone as a community knows what to do and is not doing their own thing. '''One weeks worth discussion and two weeks to vote on the issue is going to be our set time plan.'''


-- [[User:A morris|A morris]] 00:22, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Issue: The category system needs fixing. It's very unorganized and messy.


:I think that's a great idea. Before I had an idea that the player stories be put on the talk pages but it would require a lot of work. However with the user tags and signatures I believe that they should put <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after their player story whether they are a anonymous user or not. If a player links to other pre made sims that should be okay to. On the idea that if it was on a talk page we wouldn't have the problem of bad spelling and grammar on the actual informational part of the page. --[[User:Makiah|<font color="red">Makiah</font>]] [[User talk:Makiah|<small><font color="red">(talk)</font></small>]] 16:19, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

::I think moving the player stories to the talk page is a good idea. [[User:A morris|A morris]] 19:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
'''(DO NOT COPY AND PASTE, RATHER EDIT YOUR IDEAS INTO)'''
:::I've started moving some stories to their talk page. I moved a ''really'' long story from [[Consort Capp]]'s page. I left the others with a note to see the talk page for more. -- [[User:A morris|A morris]] 14:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
The proposed category system is as followed:
:I had another idea. That of placing the player stories on a subpage of the character's page, ex. [[Bella Goth/Player stories]]. That way the stories are on their own page and can even be placed in a "Player stories" category. The {{[[Template:Sim|Sim]]}} can be edited to automatically link to the subpage as well. [[User:A morris|-- a_morris]] 02:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

::Over the next couple of days I'm going to be updating the {{[[Template:Sims|Sim]]}} to incorporate the idea stated in an earlier message as well as some other things. Because of this many of the Sims pages will require some editing but will hopefully make the template easier to use. [[User:A morris|-- a_morris]] 14:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
*'''Sims Wiki''' ''(this is our super-category, the mother of all categories; everything is rooted here)''
**'''Sims Games''' ''(this category is the root of the "games" tree as noted above; in this tree, we categorize things by the games it's in)''
***'''The Sims'''
****The Sims Base Game
****Livin' Large
****''(etc.; one category for each expansion pack)''
***'''The Sims 2'''
****The Sims 2 Base Game
****University
****''(etc.; one category for each expansion pack)''
****Stuff Packs
*****Holiday Party Pack
*****''(etc.; one category for each stuff pack)''
**'''Simology''' ''(this category is the root of the "simology" tree; it categorizes by aspects of a sim's life)''
***Aspirations
***Careers
***NPCs
***Talent Badges
***Skill points
***Motives
***Life Stages
***Life States
****Aliens
***Interactions
**'''Sims'''
***''(what we already have here except the Premade Sims category)''
**'''Images'''
***Sim Images
***Sims 2 snapshots
***Sims 1 Snapshots
***Game Screenshots ''(For other game's screenshots)''
***Wiki Images
***Box Art
***Logo
**'''Templates'''
***Blank
***Stubs
***Disambiguation
***Featured Articles
**'''Games''' ''(for all other Sim games)''
**'''Community'''
***Websites
**EA Games (I think the Maxis category should be integrated into this one)
**''(more? Your input is required)''

===Comments===
I have added all the categories that I believe are available as of now (all the ones I believe should be kept) as well as inserted ideas. Realize when you are discussing these are the exact titles we want to name these categories. They are to be used as more efficient and to enable better searching. Time is of the essence people and by Monday, March 24, 2008 I hope to be voting on this issue. Thanks for your time, I know this is a long topic! If anyone thinks of anything to be added please do! [[User:Makiah|<font color="red">Makiah</font>]] [[User talk:Makiah|<small><font color="red">(talk)</font></small>]] 22:53, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

:I'll unfix the stuff in Simology, but what i want know is, how is any of that different then the stuff in "Games Systems" --[[User:Uberfuzzy|Uberfuzzy]] 23:03, 17 March 2008 (UTC)?
::Personally I don't like the Game Systems category because if I was a person looking for things to do with the sims such as aspirations I would not look under Game Systems. That's why we want to better the category system. I thank you for fixing that. The categories listed above would be the only ones we have so if anything is important it should be added! But again Uberfuzzy I believe you have some good ideas and can add them! [[User:Makiah|<font color="red">Makiah</font>]] [[User talk:Makiah|<small><font color="red">(talk)</font></small>]] 09:43, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I want to get rid of the Premade Sims Category. While I know there is an enormous amount of articles there I would like to move them to instead just the Sims Category. All the Sims in the Sims category are premade anyway...so it's kinda pointless. I know it's a big project but I'm willing to take it on (even if by myself). I also added some more categories to the category tree: Sims 1 Snapshots, Game Screenshots, and Aliens (which a user created today and I think it would be stupid to delete). [[User:Makiah|<font color="red">Makiah</font>]] [[User talk:Makiah|<small><font color="red">(talk)</font></small>]] 17:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I wanted to make note that this will not effect category creation in the future. So like people won't have to vote on making a new category or whatever. But obviously if a category doesn't seem to fit, I or someone else will delete it and it will be just like the delete a page thing. If there is no other input by tonight I will be putting it up to a vote. [[User:Makiah|<font color="red">Makiah</font>]] [[User talk:Makiah|<small><font color="red">(talk)</font></small>]] 14:48, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


==Categories Voting==

First thing I would like to apologize to the community because I forgot to put the vote up on time. Alright so we will be voting on a Categories plan that allows the community to be on the same page. The plan is that whatever category is not in it will be deleted and the other ones moved so they are branches of whatever category tree they are listed under. This will not hinder Category creation however when creating a category it must have a proper branch (be a category of a category) and have a significant number of articles.

The proposed category system is as followed:

*'''Sims Wiki''' ''(this is our super-category, the mother of all categories; everything is rooted here)''
**'''Sims Games''' ''(this category is the root of the "games" tree as noted above; in this tree, we categorize things by the games it's in)''
***'''The Sims'''
****The Sims Base Game
****Livin' Large
****''(etc.; one category for each expansion pack)''
***'''The Sims 2'''
****The Sims 2 Base Game
****University
****''(etc.; one category for each expansion pack)''
****Stuff Packs
*****Holiday Party Pack
*****''(etc.; one category for each stuff pack)''
**'''Simology''' ''(this category is the root of the "simology" tree; it categorizes by aspects of a sim's life)''
***Aspirations
***Careers
***NPCs
***Talent Badges
***Skill points
***Motives
***Life Stages
***Life States
****Aliens
***Interactions
**'''Sims'''
***''(what we already have here except the Premade Sims category)''
**'''Images'''
***Sim Images
***Sims 2 snapshots
***Sims 1 Snapshots
***Game Screenshots ''(For other game's screenshots)''
***Wiki Images
***Box Art
***Logo
**'''Templates'''
***Blank
***Stubs
***Disambiguation
***Featured Articles
**'''Games''' ''(for all other Sim games)''
**'''Community'''
***Discussions
***Websites
**EA Games (I think the Maxis category should be integrated into this one)
**''(more? Your input is required)''

Because of my own negligence the voting is now set to end April 10th, 2008. [[User:Makiah|<font color="red">Makiah</font>]] [[User talk:Makiah|<small><font color="red">(talk)</font></small>]] 01:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

===Agree===
# [[User:Makiah|<font color="red">Makiah</font>]] [[User talk:Makiah|<small><font color="red">(talk)</font></small>]] 01:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Anonymous[[Special:Contributions/71.167.254.3|71.167.254.3]] 23:21, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

===Neutral===

===Disagree===

===Comments===


[[Category: Discussions]]

Revision as of 17:32, 2 January 2009

Policy on Writing and Editing Player stories

I would like to introduce some policy on writing and editing Player stories. Should the player stories submitted be left as-is or edited? Anything inappropriate or that contradicts existing policy should be removed immediately of course. But a lot of the stories have misspellings, bad grammar, etc. I think we need some guidelines on how much we (the editors) are allowed to edit, yet still resemble the personal style of the writer, which is the whole point of having these sections.

Points to consider:

  • How long should a story be?
    • We don't want them to write a novel. I suggest one paragraph, 3 to 5 sentences.
  • Should links to other premade Sims be included if mentioned
    • I don't really care, but it would mean a lot of editing
  • Spelling & Grammar
    • I think this should be corrected
  • User tags, signatures, etc.
    • I think these should be kept
  • Personal opinions
    • I think these should be kept

Any other suggestions?

-- A morris 00:22, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that's a great idea. Before I had an idea that the player stories be put on the talk pages but it would require a lot of work. However with the user tags and signatures I believe that they should put ~~~~ after their player story whether they are a anonymous user or not. If a player links to other pre made sims that should be okay to. On the idea that if it was on a talk page we wouldn't have the problem of bad spelling and grammar on the actual informational part of the page. --Makiah (talk) 16:19, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I think moving the player stories to the talk page is a good idea. A morris 19:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
I've started moving some stories to their talk page. I moved a really long story from Consort Capp's page. I left the others with a note to see the talk page for more. -- A morris 14:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I had another idea. That of placing the player stories on a subpage of the character's page, ex. Bella Goth/Player stories. That way the stories are on their own page and can even be placed in a "Player stories" category. The {{Sim}} can be edited to automatically link to the subpage as well. -- a_morris 02:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Over the next couple of days I'm going to be updating the {{Sim}} to incorporate the idea stated in an earlier message as well as some other things. Because of this many of the Sims pages will require some editing but will hopefully make the template easier to use. -- a_morris 14:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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