Forum:Blonde or Blond

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Normally, the term blonde is for both male and female Sims. Now a discussion has been carried to whether blond should be used for males and blonde for females, as the words are derived from French and that's how the French language uses them. Joey.eyeball (talk) 23:06, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

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It looks like British English prefers blonde for females and blond for males, whereas US English prefers blond for both genders. The Manual of style says that "it is generally acceptable to leave an article alone where the style is consistent throughout the article." I think this isn't major enough to have to be decided on a wiki-wide level, especially considering the differing styles between various versions of English - none of which are correct or incorrect. It would be relatively painless to make the {{Sim}} and related templates accept both spellings of the word.

The only case where I think we might want to make a decision is in the naming of the category - be it Category:Blond Sims or Category:Blonde Sims. In this case, my vote would be for 'blond' since it's a gender-neutral term, versus blonde which is intended specifically for females. -- LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 00:18, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

So you are proposing that we change it to blond because it can be used appropriately for both genders? Joey.eyeball (talk) 01:42, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
No, I'm proposing that we don't change anything except the category name. But, that's just my suggestion. -- LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 01:44, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
Do we change it on the template for each gender? Joey.eyeball (talk) 01:47, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
I don't understand what you mean. -- LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 03:56, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
I mean on Sim articles and on this template. Joey.eyeball (talk) 03:58, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
In terms of a possible category name change, I'd be fine with using blond or blonde. If need be, the word usage of the hair color in the games can be taken into account. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 05:33, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
I'm confused. I've always thought "blonde" is the gender-neutral term all along. Currently, we're using Category:Blondes for Sims with blonde hair. I've never argued with it because I thought "blonde" is the gender-neutral term. If we are to agree to use "blond" as the gender-neutral term, we could as well change the category for those Sims into Category:Blonds.
I'm not quite sure what you asked about the template either, Joey. If you're looking for the categorization template for blonde Sims, Template:GetAppearanceCat is the correct template. Both terms "blond" and "blonde" categorize Sims to Category:Blondes. We can make a minor tweak to the template to change the categories, while agreeing both usages of terms are acceptable. Nikel Talk Vote! 05:51, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

(Reset indent)The point I was making was that we don't need to go around to all the articles and edit them to make them match one spelling choice or the other, since they're both technically correct. As I said, the only thing I'd change would be the category. As Nikel said, that would be as easy as tweaking the template. -- LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 05:53, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

I don't like that template. But I'm still confused about what are we doing. Joey.eyeball (talk) 05:56, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
Right now, we're discussing what we're doing. Then we'll do it. -- LostInRiverview talk ~ blog 06:01, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
Can you tell me what is happening then? Joey.eyeball (talk) 06:04, December 20, 2013 (UTC)