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I'll try to be as brief as possible, since [[User:K6ka|K6ka]] has already written an [[User blog:K6ka/Featured Videos on The Sims Wiki|excellent blog]] about the topic of featured videos on The Sims Wiki. For the sake of clarity, I'll quote bits of his blog to explain what has happened, what I'm proposing, and why.
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Please weigh in down below with your thoughts as to the wording and content of this resolution, and whether you support or oppose said resolution. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LostInRiverview</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 02:12, October 26, 2018 (UTC)
==Discussion==
'''Strong support''' I shall save my breath, as I've already explained a lot in my blog post, but I am very strongly opposed to the notion of FANDOM Staff having editorial control over our content and our articles. They are more than welcome to be volunteer contributors like all of us here have been for years. I'm happy to hear a response from Staff that isn't a cookie-cutter argument that serves only as a complete non-answer to our concerns. —[[User:K6ka|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁</span> ([[User talk:K6ka|<span style="color:#0080FF">Talk</span>]] · [[Special:Contributions/K6ka|<span style="color:#0B4C5F">Contributions</span>]]) 02:31, October 26, 2018 (UTC)
'''Strong support''': As I noted in the comments to K6ka's blog post, the playlisting "feature" means that, in effect, they forcibly embed videos into an article that are not only irrelevant to the article, but to the wiki as a whole. [[User:Dharden|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden|talk]]) 03:47, October 26, 2018 (UTC)
'''Strong support''' I very much agree with everything said so far. That we don't have any control over the contents of such a video and can't even remove it from a page is unacceptable. - [[User:KailynnKat| <span style="color:#910b0b; font-variant:small-caps;"> '''KailynnKat'''</span>]][[User_talk:KailynnKat|<span style="color:#910b0b; font-size:11px">(talk</span>]][[:Category:Fanon created and owned by KailynnKat|<span style="color:#910b0b; font-size:11px">/fanon)</span>]] 09:37, October 26, 2018 (UTC)
'''Strong support''' They're highly unnecessary since the trailers are already featured in the articles. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 09:57, October 26, 2018 (UTC)
'''Strong support''' for the all the reasons above. - [[User:SimDestroyer|SimDestroyer]] ([[User talk:SimDestroyer|talk]]) 13:17, October 26, 2018 (UTC)
'''Strong support''' for the reasons above, too. There isn't much I can add other than my support. - [[User:AireDaleDogz|<span style="color:#4B0082">✨AireDaleDogz✨</span>]] ([[User talk:AireDaleDogz|<span style="color:#800080">talk</span>]]) 19:56, October 26, 2018 (UTC)
'''Strong support'''for all the reasons above. — '''[[User:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">THE TIM TAM</font>]] [[User_talk:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">IS MY</font>]] [[User blog:WikiBuilder1147|<font color="blue">SPIRIT ANIMAL</font>]]''' <sup>([[w:c:sims:User:WikiBuilder1147|TSW]] • [[w:c:althistory:User:WikiBuilder1147|AH]] • [[w:c:mapgame:User:WikiBuilder1147|MGW]] • '''[[Special:Contributions/WikiBuilder1147|<font color="#006400">Contribs</font>]])'''</sup> 14:27, November 4, 2018 (UTC)
'''Strong support''' - Although I do have my doubts about Staff taking our wishes about this into account, I strongly support this request for the reasons stated above. ― <span style="font-family:'Constantia'; font-weight:bold; font-size:108%;">[[User:C.Syde65|<font color="maroon">C.Syde</font>]]</span> <span style="font-family:'Adobe Garamond Pro'; font-size:108%;">([[User talk:C.Syde65|<font color="black">talk</font>]] | [[:Special:Contributions/C.Syde65|<font color="black">contribs</font>]])</span> 02:21, November 6, 2018 (UTC)
'''Strong support '''If not for disabling, give customizations to the community's staff of the wiki. To their liking; like maybe picking a video. Somewhere I gave my opinion on how the feature could be improved without being intrusive If not removed. If anyone could find my rant, post a link and I'll post my message here of how I thought it could be ''improved. ''[[User:DrakonoSkerdikas|DrakonoSkerdikas]] ([[User talk:DrakonoSkerdikas|talk]]) 18:04, December 6, 2018 (UTC)
'''Opinion''' It won't matter how much support this gets, staff won't remove their money-making videos because you have nothing formidable to convince them otherwise. They'll keep the videos, and you can complain, but they know you'll inevitably (albeit reluctantly) accept it just like their other implementations in the past. Staff knows that "fandom" communities in general are too timid to actually quit editing a wiki, or fork, over their changes.<br />At best, they'll let you help "guide" the videos, but good luck trying to frequently update those videos to make sure they stay up-to-date. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 20:00, December 12, 2018 (UTC)
'''Strong Support '''The featured videos have got to go. They are very annoying and there is no puropse to them. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:The Genegolst|The Genegolst]] ([[User talk:The Genegolst|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/The Genegolst|contribs]]) 14:01, February 20, 2019 (UTC) - [[Help:Signatures|Please sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]]</small>
==Template solution==
While I doubt Wikia will actually listen to us and remove the crappy, unwanted feature from our wiki, in the meantime I've created {{tl|Featured video notice}}, which can be placed at the top of any article with the annoying feature. The template won't remove the video (as that would be a violation of the ToU), but it will display a stern notice just underneath it telling viewers that the unwanted feature was not added by us. A lot of other wikis, like the Animal Crossing and League of Legends Wiki, have also made similar templates. —[[User:K6ka|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁</span> ([[User talk:K6ka|<span style="color:#0080FF">Talk</span>]] · [[Special:Contributions/K6ka|<span style="color:#0B4C5F">Contributions</span>]]) 15:32, February 1, 2019 (UTC)
==Closing==
This thread reached a satisfactory conclusion a long time ago; it's pretty clear that the community (at least a year ago) is (or was) firmly resolved against forced implementation of Featured Videos. Since this discussion was held, some things have happened on this front, and it seems that FANDOM is re-evaluating the whole thing. Still, this thread served an important purpose in formalizing community opposition to the feature. Thank you to all who participated. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LostInRiverview</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 17:33, February 2, 2020 (UTC)
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