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Line 1: {{Forumheader\|Community discussions\|archive}}So if you have heard the recent news, [[The Sims 4]] is going to get a brand new redesign next week, which will affect its logos, icons, cover arts, plumbob, loading screens and main menu. This is obviously a big change, especially since the whole wiki is based around the old, now seemingly abandoned, design of The Sims 4.▼ ~~{{Forumheader\|Community discussions}}~~ ▲So if you have heard the recent news, [[The Sims 4]] is going to get a brand new redesign next week, which will affect its logos, icons, cover arts, plumbob, loading screens and main menu. This is obviously a big change, especially since the whole wiki is based around the old, now seemingly abandoned, design of The Sims 4. Here are some examples of this new design: Line 26 ⟶ 25: Finally, for the wiki's theme, we could make small changes so that it resemble the game's new design, such as making the background we already have blue, and changing the logo to a dark blue version with the new Plumbob. The "Wiki" part would then be colored in the new Plumbob's shades of green to differentiate it. Here's a quick, messy mockup I made to show what I mean: [https://i.imgur.com/d0ca4FC.png] [[User:AireDaleDogz\|<span style="color:#4B0082">✨AireDaleDogz✨</span>]] ([[User talk:AireDaleDogz\|<span style="color:#800080">talk</span>]]) 19:30, July 13, 2019 (UTC) :{{Edit conflict}} Updating the logos, box art, etc is simple enough, as you point out. In instances where the "official" logo clashes with our current theme (e.g. white logo on a white background), we can always keep the older logos until we figure out a good way of implementing them. :But in terms of its affect on the wiki theme, I'd say don't sweat it. Even now, our wiki theme doesn't 100% adhere to the in-game theme. Blues and greens seem to permeate the entire ''Sims'' series, not just TS4, so there's no harm in continuing to sport those colors on the wiki. It's much more important that the wiki have a cohesive style throughout; it's not as important that the wiki theme matches the current-series game. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview\|<span style="color:navy;">LostInRiverview</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">blog</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 19:33, July 13, 2019 (UTC) ::Yeah, I've always thought the wiki resembled The Sims 3 the most in actual terms of design. As long as it does its best to represent The Sims Series as a whole in theme, I think we'll be okay. [[User:Auror Andrachome\|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome\|talk]]) 21:40, July 13, 2019 (UTC) Well, well. I was right. The content packs do get brand new logos, but "The Sims 4" in them are fully white. And I tested how this works in our current infobox design with the white base game logo and it looks terrible. Which will be the same for the content pack ones as well. [[File:WhiteLogoDoesntWork.png\|270px]] There are a few options. #We do not update the logos. But that's a bad idea and creates an annoying amount of unnecessary inconsistency. #We recolor The Sims 4 infobox to make these white logos appear in a better way. The game went for a different blue color anyways. # We use an image editing tool to make the content pack logos have the dark blue one, but then none of them will be "official" and The Sims Wiki usually tends to go for official things. So, since this wiki goes for community discussions, what option would you all pick? Or do you have any new ideas? Oh, and I think we should stop/revert any logo and icon updates before we sort this out. - [[User:SimDestroyer\|SimDestroyer]] ([[User talk:SimDestroyer\|talk]]) 16:05, July 16, 2019 (UTC) :Okay so I did make a custom version of the logo with a black shadow, but it doesn't really look too great either if you take a look at [[User:SimDestroyer/Sandbox 2\|my second sandbox]]. - [[User:SimDestroyer\|SimDestroyer]] ([[User talk:SimDestroyer\|talk]]) 16:26, July 16, 2019 (UTC) ::Why not just use the blue logo from the main menu shown above? - [[User:KailynnKat\| <span style="color:#910b0b; font-variant:small-caps;"> '''KailynnKat'''</span>]][[User_talk:KailynnKat\|<span style="color:#910b0b; font-size:11px">(talk</span>]][[:Category:Fanon created and owned by KailynnKat\|<span style="color:#910b0b; font-size:11px">/fanon)</span>]] 16:49, July 16, 2019 (UTC) :::But the content packs don't have it though? They only have it as pure white. - [[User:SimDestroyer\|SimDestroyer]] ([[User talk:SimDestroyer\|talk]]) 16:50, July 16, 2019 (UTC) ::::The logo isn't just included for aesthetic reasons; it's there so readers know (without having to understand our color scheme) what game a particular Sim belongs to at-a-glance. To that end, I think that the ability of readers to actually see the logo is more important than whether the logo is official. I should add that just because ''The Sims 4'' has a new logo, doesn't mean that the old TS4 logo is no longer official. Redesigning the infoboxes to accommodate the new logos isn't a bad idea, but until or unless that happens, I'd say we just keep what we have and not worry too much about whether we're 100% "official". So as of now, given the options listed above, I'd choose number 1. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview\|<span style="color:navy;">LostInRiverview</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">blog</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 21:09, July 16, 2019 (UTC) :::::But what about upcoming packs such as Moschino Stuff or upcoming expansions with new worlds that will only use these new designs? - [[User:SimDestroyer\|SimDestroyer]] ([[User talk:SimDestroyer\|talk]]) 21:25, July 16, 2019 (UTC) ::::::I recolored the Cats & Dogs logo with the base game logo colors from here: [https://simscommunity.info/2019/07/17/the-sims-4-base-game-packs-rebrand-assets-megapost-logos-box-arts-renders-icons/]. I think the result could work if we did the same for every other pack (both present and future). Here are the options I have. Blue: [https://i.imgur.com/NMJCQyY.png] Green: [https://i.imgur.com/QScwjuL.png] What do you guys think? - [[User:AireDaleDogz\|<span style="color:#4B0082">✨AireDaleDogz✨</span>]] ([[User talk:AireDaleDogz\|<span style="color:#800080">talk</span>]]) 08:31, July 17, 2019 (UTC) ::I'm a bit confused on that all covers and logos are getting replaced instead of simply shown as a 'new' version (like done with new [[The Sims 3\|TS3]] cover art)? Is this done conciously? [[User:DeSims\|<b><span style="font-family:Calibri"><span style="color:#00ac35"><span style="font-size:23px">D</span>e</span><span style="font-size:19px"><span style="color:#0075ac"><span style="font-size:23px">S</span><span style="font-size:19px">ims</span></span></span></span></b>]] [[User_talk:DeSims\|<span style="font-family:Papyrus"><span style="color:#0075ac"><sup><small>(talk)</small></sup></span></span>]] 11:17, July 17, 2019 (UTC) :::I agree with this confusion. Replacing the logos and covers should not be how we go about adding the new logos to the wiki; they should be uploaded as separate files. Right now, all the infoboxes that show TS4 logos (such as Infobox Sim and Infobox family) now use the new logos, which do not appear correctly. We haven't agreed on literally ''anything'' to do with how we implement the new logos, what changes we make to our infobox designs, etc. The replacing of those images is very premature. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview\|<span style="color:navy;">LostInRiverview</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">blog</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 18:40, July 20, 2019 (UTC) ::::The new logos, icons, and box art should ''not'' be simply uploaded over the old ones. They should instead be uploaded as a new file. The "Upload a new version" functionality should be used to upload better quality versions of the same image and not to replace the image with a completely new one entirely. The old logos, icons, and box art can still be kept on their respective articles in the galleries, captioned as "Old logo/icon/box art, used until July 2019". There is simply no reason why we must rush to update; we do not fluctuate with the game series, but rather adopt a more Wikipedia-like approach in being open to keeping old information. That's one reason why we still have TS1 content on our pages. —[[User:K6ka\|'''<span style="color:#0040FF">k6ka</span>''']] <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁</span> ([[User talk:K6ka\|<span style="color:#0080FF">Talk</span>]] · [[Special:Contributions/K6ka\|<span style="color:#0B4C5F">Contributions</span>]]) 02:40, July 21, 2019 (UTC) == Plumbob image == I just made a sample Plumbob image at [[:File:The Sims 4 Modern Plumbob Design.png]] using a JPG image. If anyone is willing to find a PNG image already with transparency to replace the image, I would be grateful. [[User:Matthew Cenance\|Matthew Cenance]] ([[User:Matthew Cenance\|talk]]) 20:43, July 16, 2019 (UTC) == Wiki logo == [[File:TSW logo 2019 blue.png\|right\|250px]][[File:TSW logo 2019 white.png\|right\|250px]]I realise that nothing has yet been decided on how to formally approach EA's colour scheme change, and judging by the consensus above it isn't really a life or death matter, but I have nonetheless created mockups of the current wiki logo with the new plumbbob design using both the white colour scheme and the dark blue one, akin to what EA are using for some TS4-related media. Up to you if you want to use them, even if it's just for social media stuff. I can provide a Photoshop PSD for this upon request. -- [[User:Lost Labyrinth\|<span style="color:blue">'''Lost'''</span>]] [[User talk:Lost Labyrinth\|<span style="color:blue">'''Labyrinth'''</span>]] [[Image:Flag united kingdom england.svg\|20px]] <font size="-2">• [[Special:Contributions/Lost Labyrinth\|(c)]] • [[User blog:Lost Labyrinth\|(b)]]</font> 15:41, July 20, 2019 (UTC) :I think this new one looks pretty good; however, I'd suggest colouring the word "Wiki" in one of the green hues found in the new plumbob, similar to the current TSW logo. <span style="text-shadow:2px 2px 2px #333333;">―</span> [[user:Rodrigo X\|'''<font color="black"><span style="text-shadow: royalblue 2px 2px 2px;">ℜᴏᴅʀɪɢᴏ</span></font> <font color="royalblue"><span style="text-shadow: black 2px 2px 2px;">𝐗</span></font>''']] <sup>([[User_talk:Rodrigo X\|<font color="black"><span title="Talk to me!">🅣🗣️</span></font>]]<font color="firebrick"><span style="text-shadow: black 2 2px 2px;">⛧</span></font>[[Special:Contributions/Rodrigo X\|<font color="royalblue"><span title="Check out my contributions">🅒📝</span></font>]])</sup> 14:42, July 21, 2019 (UTC) ==Conclusion== Archiving thread due to inactivity. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview\|<span style="color:navy;">LostInRiverview</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">blog</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview\|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 17:26, 21 April 2021 (UTC)