Forum:Proposing a new speedy delete criterion: Difference between revisions
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
Content added Content deleted
m (3 revisions imported) |
imported>K6ka (Remove incoherent comment) |
||
| Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
{{Forumheader|Community discussions}} |
|||
I would like to propose the addition of a new [[The Sims Wiki:Criteria for speedy deletion|speedy deletion criterion]]. The text of the proposed addition would be as follows: |
|||
---- |
---- |
||
| Line 13: | Line 14: | ||
:I can't think of a specific instance off the top of my head that would qualify for this rule, if the rule were in place. The thing that brought me to make this proposal was [[The Sims Wiki:Pages for deletion/Game guide:How to run a successful suicidal service ?|this deletion discussion]]. In that discussion, a page written by a user that is now indefinitely blocked is up for deletion. One of the ideas discussed, prior to that user being blocked, was moving the page to that user's userspace. Had that move taken place, then that page would be eligible for speedy deletion under this proposed criteria. |
:I can't think of a specific instance off the top of my head that would qualify for this rule, if the rule were in place. The thing that brought me to make this proposal was [[The Sims Wiki:Pages for deletion/Game guide:How to run a successful suicidal service ?|this deletion discussion]]. In that discussion, a page written by a user that is now indefinitely blocked is up for deletion. One of the ideas discussed, prior to that user being blocked, was moving the page to that user's userspace. Had that move taken place, then that page would be eligible for speedy deletion under this proposed criteria. |
||
:As to "why we'd need such a criteria" in the first place... It comes down to a couple things that I've discussed in other threads in the past. There are pages created by users in locations that imply that the page creator is the owner of the page; that the page does not belong to the community to edit and change unless the page creator/page owner gives permission. This principle applies most closely to fanon pages and pages in a user's userspace. When a user creates that page, and then the user either leaves the wiki or (more relevant to this discussion) is forced off the wiki, the pages they created still remain and still are "untouchable" by the community. The page creator shouldn't lose the right to control their works, so deletion of those works becomes the only acceptable solution if a user is no longer able to edit the wiki. |
:As to "why we'd need such a criteria" in the first place... It comes down to a couple things that I've discussed in other threads in the past. There are pages created by users in locations that imply that the page creator is the owner of the page; that the page does not belong to the community to edit and change unless the page creator/page owner gives permission. This principle applies most closely to fanon pages and pages in a user's userspace. When a user creates that page, and then the user either leaves the wiki or (more relevant to this discussion) is forced off the wiki, the pages they created still remain and still are "untouchable" by the community. The page creator shouldn't lose the right to control their works, so deletion of those works becomes the only acceptable solution if a user is no longer able to edit the wiki. |
||
:Contrast this principle with pages created in the main namespace, game guides namespace, or most other namespaces on the wiki, where no one user ever "owns" a page, even its creator. In those situations, it makes sense to hold deletion discussions if or when a page is brought forward for deletion, unless the page meets another speedy delete criterion. |
:Contrast this principle with pages created in the main namespace, game guides namespace, or most other namespaces on the wiki, where no one user ever "owns" a page, even its creator. In those situations, it makes sense to hold deletion discussions if or when a page is brought forward for deletion, unless the page meets another speedy delete criterion. |
||
:But if a user were to be blocked long-term or indefinitely, the project doesn't stand to benefit in any meaningful way by holding onto their "private" contributions. Holding those pages on the wiki also causes harm to the owner, who no longer has control over their creations. The only justifiable course of action in that case is deletion. And since the outcome of a deletion discussion necessarily must result in deletion, going through the process of a deletion discussion (especially since those discussions tend to drag on for ''way, way too long'') seems to be a [[TSW:SNOW|waste of everyone's time]]. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LostInRiverview</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 23:09, December 27, 2019 (UTC) |
:But if a user were to be blocked long-term or indefinitely, the project doesn't stand to benefit in any meaningful way by holding onto their "private" contributions. Holding those pages on the wiki also causes harm to the owner, who no longer has control over their creations. The only justifiable course of action in that case is deletion. And since the outcome of a deletion discussion necessarily must result in deletion, going through the process of a deletion discussion (especially since those discussions tend to drag on for ''way, way too long'') seems to be a [[TSW:SNOW|waste of everyone's time]]. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LostInRiverview</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 23:09, December 27, 2019 (UTC) |
||
:I think that infine users who do impersonate or globaly disabled and or severely disuging edits or picturess. Cassandra1201 20:18, March 13, 2020 (UTC) |
|||