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'''Mrs. CrumpleBottom''' is an [[Non-playable character|NPC]] featured in ''[[The Sims 2: Nightlife]]''. She frequently visits Downtown lots and is usually considered an obstacle in the lives of [[Sim]]s.
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'''Mrs. CrumpleBottom''' is an elderly [[NPC]] Sim-woman featured in ''[[The Sims 2 Nightlife]]''. She frequents Downtown lots and is usually considered an obstacle in the lives of Sims.
 
The Crumplebottoms from ''[[The Sims: Hot Date]]'' and ''The Sims 2 Nightlife'' are not actually the same Sims, but distant relatives.<ref>[{{Wayback|url=http://thesims2.ea.com/community/chat_06_16_05.php |date=20111120182042 |title=TheSims2.com - TheCommunity Sims- 2Chat NightlifeTranscripts Chat Transcript]6.16.05}}</ref> It has been revealed that [[Agnes Crumplebottom]] was [[Miss Crumplebottom]] from ''The Sims: Hot Date''.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFq40YSYGso The Sims 3 Demo With Grant Rodiek Part 1]</ref>
 
Mrs. CrumpleBottom is a very old-fashioned, stern, and strict woman who appears to abide by a [[wikipedia:Victorian morality|moral code from the Victorian Era]]. She detests when two Sims have any romantic interactions in public. When Mrs. CrumpleBottom sees any of these actions taking place on a community lot, she will promptly scold the Sims or beat them with her purse.<ref>In some versions of ''[[The Sims 2]]'', there is a glitch which may prevent Mrs. CrumpleBottom from noticing any romantic interactions.</ref> If a Sim innocently wanders out in his/her underwear or bathing suit, Mrs. CrumpleBottom will repeatedly lecture them until he/she changes back into his/her everyday clothes. This could be an issue if the player makes a public pool as a Downtown lot. Mrs. CrumpleBottom loves to knit, and she will usually knit as an idle animation when she's not doing anything; in fact, it was revealed that knitting utensils are one of the many things inside of her purse, others including lint, stones, and a portrait of her great aunt.<ref>[http://fr.sims.wikia.com/wiki/Les_Sims_2:_Nuits_de_Folie/Chat_25/08/2005]</ref>
==Personality==
Mrs. CrumpleBottom is  a very old-fashioned, stern, and strict woman who appears to abide by a [[wikipedia:Victorian morality|moral code from the Victorian Era]]. She detests when two Sims have any romantic interactions in public. When Mrs. CrumpleBottom sees any of these actions taking place on a community lot, she will promptly scold the Sims or beat them with her purse. If a Sim innocently wanders out in his/her underwear or bathing suit, Mrs. CrumpleBottom will lecture him/her until he/she changes back into his/her everyday clothes. For this reason, the player may not want to make a public pool as a Downtown lot. Mrs. CrumpleBottom loves to knit, and she will usually knit as an idle animation when she's not doing anything.
 
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{{Warning-header|'''DO NOT''', under any circumstances, attempt to add Mrs. CrumpleBottom to a family, try to turn her into a supernatural creature, such as a vampire<ref>Vampires in-game may attempt to bite her, as this is their default behavior. Doing so WILL cause game corruption. [http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,1482.html This mod] prevents this from occurring, as well as fixing many other bugs.</ref>, a werewolf or a witch, make her selectable, or tamper with her in SimPE in '''any''' way or form. Doing so will cause game corruption, fixed only by uninstalling and reinstalling the game.}}
 
If the player has ''[[The Sims 2: Seasons]]'' expansion pack, a Sim may wish for Romance from a [[Wishing Well|wishing well]]. There is a 50% chance that Mrs. CrumpleBottom will crawl out of the well and hit the Sim with her purse.
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If the player has ''[[The Sims 2: Seasons]]'' expansion pack, a Sim may wish for Romance from a [[Wishing Well|wishing well]]. There is a chance that the wish will fail, and Mrs. CrumpleBottom will crawl out of the well and hit the Sim with her purse. When she attacks the Sim, they may be [[fury|furious]] with her if she wins.
{{info|Genetic personality|Mrs. CrumpleBottom's genetic personality is that of a standard object NPC: 0 neat, 0 outgoing, 0 active, 0 playful, 0 nice. It has been [[:File:Mrs. CrumpleBottom's personality.png|noted]] that she does not always have personality points.}}
 
==Preventing the Purse==
[[File:Mrs Fight.jpg|thumb|Mrs. CrumpleBottom attacking a Sim.]]
So far, thereThere are six known ways to avoid Mrs. CrumpleBottom:
#Don't go Downtown. Sims don't have to go out for a date. A cozy night at home can be every bit as satisfying as a night out. Since Mrs. CrumpleBottom can't go on toonto private property without the use of cheats (or a Wishing Well romance wish fail), Sims can show as much affection as they desire without the risk of being beaten with a purse or scolded. This will also save money because they don't need to buy a car, call a taxi, or build a garage. This is not always the best choice, especially if a Sim [[want]]s to go out.
#Special Sims introduced with ''Nightlife'' (such as Grand Vampires and Mrs. CrumpleBottom) only appear in [[Downtown (The Sims 2)|Downtown]]. So, if there is a club or a public swimming pool in the main neighborhood or a shopping district{{vgversion|TS2:OFB}}, she won't appear.
#If you do visit Downtown, take your date to a bowling alley, a nightclub with a bar, or a lot with at least one poker table. Although Mrs. CrumpleBottom is mean and cranky, she still likes fun as well as drinks. Sims can be [[WooHoo]]ing right in front of her and she won't care as long as she is bowling, drinking or playing poker. See [[Mrs. CrumpleBottom#Distractions|the Distractions&nbsp;section]] below.
#If Sims do go Downtown for a date, have them go to a bowling alley, a nightclub with a bar, or a lot with at least one poker table. Although Mrs. CrumpleBottom is mean and cranky, she still likes fun as well as drinks. Sims can be [[WooHoo]]ing right in front of her and she won't care as long as she is bowling, drinking or playing poker. See [[Mrs. CrumpleBottom#Distractions|the Distractions section]] below.
#Cancel her action before she can complete it. She is an old woman, so she is slow. While she is walking toward your Sim(s), X out her action by clicking on it. It is a picture of her at the top left corner. Many experienced Simmers know this. If she is running toward them, pause the game and X out her action. Try to overwrite it by making the Sim(s) do something else like talk to each other. She will still yell at them, but they won't notice because of the action they are doing at the moment.
#Use boolProp [[TestingCheatsEnabled]] true, then use force error on her. This cheat can be used to delete her from the lot. This has worked, though it is unknown if it will cause glitches or corruptions in the game. Unfortunately, doing that doesn't ensure she won't come back.
#Use of [https://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=278816 this mod] from ModTheSims will prevent her from spawning in the game. The mod does not do anything harmful, just modifies the code that tests to see if she should be spawned so it always says that she shouldn't. The ''Seasons'' wishing well will still spew flames when a romance wish fails, but she will not crawl out of the well.
#Have a date on a community lot located in the main neighborhood. Special Sims introduced with the ''Nightlife'' (such as Grand Vampires and Mrs. CrumpleBottom) appear in [[Downtown (The Sims 2)|Downtown]] only. So, if there is a club or a public swimming pool in the main neighborhood, she won't appear.
 
#Use of [http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=278816 this mod] from ModTheSims will prevent her from spawning in the game. The mod does not do anything harmful, just modifies the code that tests to see if she should be spawned so it always says that she shouldn't. This will not prevent the ''Seasons'' wishing well from having the failure flame when a romance wish fails, but she will not be spawned. 
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==Distractions==
[[File:PlayingBowling.jpg|thumb|Mrs. CrumpleBottom loves to bowl.]]
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{{info|Note|Sims who are at a poker table or bowling lane with Mrs. CrumpleBottom may appear to meet her and build a relationship with her. Since relationships are stored at the neighborhood level, this should not cause changes to her character file.}}
 
If the player has the ''[[The Sims 2: Bon Voyage]]'' expansion pack installed in the game, a new character is introduced. The [[Unsavory Charlatan]], a venturing scam artist, just seems to be attracted to sweet ol' Mrs. CrumpleBottom and if both of these characters are in the same lot he will try to have his way with her and serenade the "sweet" old lady, in which he'll end up being beat byreceiving one of Mrs. CrumpleBottom's famous purse-whippings. These ridiculous interactions may give the player some time to finish up in the lot and head home to safety.
 
==Clothing==
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==Mrs. CrumpleBottom in other games==
In the spin-off game, ''[[w:c:mysims:MySims|MySims]]'', Mrs. CrumpleBottom makes a cameo as a costume. There is a dress that resembles hers, along with a hat with hair in a bun like hers. There are also eyes that look like those of an elderly person along with a craggy mouth. It is mentioned in [[Elmira Clamp]]'s isprofile alsothat theshe niecehas ofan "Auntie Crumplebottom". Some people believe that her auntie is Mrs. CrumpleBottom, andalthough appearsthis causes retroactive continuity wherein ''MySims'' is a prequel to have''The adoptedSims 3'',<ref>There is a somewhatSim similar personality[[Vincent partiallySkullfinder]] due toa beingcharacter babysatfrom by''MySims'', herwho is deceased at the start of the game in [[Sunset Valley]]</ref> which is a prequel to ''The Sims 2''.
 
In ''The Sims 3'', there is a purchasable book named "The CrumpleottomCrumplebottom Legacy". This may be a reference to Mrs. CrumpleBottomCrumplebottom and her relatives.
 
==Personal life==
One question that is often wondered about by inquisitive simmers is "If her name is Mrs. CrumpleBottom, then who was her husband?" There are many rumors around the community, and here are some of the most prominent:
*She was possibly married to the famous puppeteer and philanthropist, [[Robert Crumplebottom]] (mentioned in ''[[The Sims: Hot Date]]'' and ''[[The Sims: Vacation]]''). During his Winter Charity Event, a chandelier dropped two full stories and ended his short yet inspiring life. His demise could have made Mrs. CrumpleBottom very sad, and made her very cranky and hateful towards love as a result.
 
*She was married to the founder of SimCity/Downtown.{{fact}}
*She was possibly married to the famous puppeteer and philanthropist, [[Robert Crumplebottom]] (mentioned in ''[[The Sims: Hot Date]]'' and ''[[The Sims: Vacation]]''). During his Winter Charity Event, a chandelier dropped two full stories and ended his short yet inspiring life. His demise could have made Mrs. CrumpleBottom very sad, and made her very cranky and hateful towards love.
*She was married to the founder of SimCity/Downtown{{fact}}.
*She was married to a rich Sim who put a lot of money into the community, and she feels that she runs the town because of it.
 
==Simology==
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==Trivia==
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*Mrs. CrumpleBottom is the head of the '''''Old Town Senior Citizens Tour Group''''' (as mentioned in a [[Medical]] [[career]] track [[chance cards|chance card]]). She is also the main investor in Landgraab Industries (mentioned in a [[Business]] career chance card).
*Mrs. CrumpleBottom is the head of the '''''Old Town Senior Citizens Tour Group''''' (as mentioned in a [[Medical]] [[career]] track [[chance cards|chance card]]). She is also the main investor in [[Landgraab Industries]] (mentioned in a [[Politics]] career chance card) and the owner of the [[SimCity]] [[Llama]]s (mentioned in a [[Business (career)|Business]] career chance card).
*Her character file is located in the objects.package file, meaning that it cannot be opened directly in [[SimPE]].
*Sims may get a [[memory]] of having met Mrs. CrumpleBottom if they join her in a game of [[poker]].
*Her character file is located in the objects.package file and not in the Neighborhoods folder, which means she is the same in all neighborhoods.
*When viewing a neighborhood in SimPE, she will have a Sim Description (SDSC) which can be viewed. However, the player should '''not''' attempt to edit or alter any of that information in '''any''' way, as it will corrupt the game.
**When viewing her information in SimPE, some of it may appear to be incorrect. Her gender may be checked off as male, an oddity she shares with the [[Hula Zombie]]. Also, she may be shown as an [[adult]], even though she is treated as an elder in-game.<ref>This was apparently corrected some time after the release of ''Nightlife''.</ref>
**When viewing her in SimPE, she has no genetic personality points, skills, interests, career or memories. She mayhas orthe maysame notpersonality haveas personality[[Circe points.Beaker]], Ifbut shewhen does,viewed shein hasSimPE, the sameher personality aswill [[Circeappear Beaker]]blank.
**When viewing her Sim DNA, she has grey hair genetics. This is unusual; normally grey hair is not reflected in Sim DNA. She mayhas orno maytrue not havehair genetics.
**Mrs. CrumpleBottom's genetics cannot be passed on, because her genetic data is missing. However an exact replica of her can be downloaded [http://www.mediafire.com/download/sk3rlpaua7pw5a4/SavedSims.rar here]. This is one way of playing as Mrs. CrumpleBottom without the risk of corrupting the game, except that she will be treated as a regular Sim, without Mrs. CrumpleBottom's unique behaviors.
*Mrs. CrumpleBottom is also seen many times with a thinking bubble with a pacifier, meaning that she may want to have/adopt children.
* Some players believe that Mrs. CrumpleBottom could be the daughter of Agnes Crumplebottom and [[Erik Darling]]. Although it is a strong possibility, it would be inconsistent, considering that she did not return in ''[[The Sims 3]]''.
*Another theory is that Mrs. CrumpleBottom is the widow of [[Robert Crumplebottom]], a character mentioned in ''[[The Sims: Hot Date]]'' who was originally said to be the late husband of Miss Crumplebottom, but this was later stated not to be the case. This would make sense, since later versions of the game make it clear that Miss Agnes Crumplebottom was born into the family and that her husband was a different character altogether, while Mrs. CrumpleBottom's title makes it more likely that she married a male relative of the family and took his name.
*It appears that Mrs. CrumpleBottom was created specifically to replace [[Miss Crumplebottom]] from ''[[Hot Date]]'', seeing as she was already dead by ''The Sims 2''.
*An additional theory is that [[Agnes Seabottom]], a spoof of Agnes Crumplebottom appearing in ''The Sims 3'' download [[Barnacle Bay]], may be a younger version of the character who went on to become Mrs. CrumpleBottom in ''The Sims 2''. This is unlikely, however, seeing as the [[Caliente family|Caliente sisters]] and Agnes Seabottom both appear as [[young adult]]s, which places Barnacle Bay either quite close before, or sometime after ''The Sims 2''.
*It appears that Mrs. CrumpleBottom was created specifically to replace [[Miss Crumplebottom]] from ''[[The Sims: Hot Date]]'', seeing as she was already dead by ''The Sims 2''.
*In ''[[The Sims 2: University]]'', there is a location in [[Sim State University]] known as '''Crumplebottom Lane'''. This may be a reference to Mrs. CrumpleBottom and her family.
*There was some speculation that she would return in ''[[The Sims 3: Late Night]]'', though when the game came out she was not included in it.
*While using a sketch table in ''The Sims 3'', one of the randomly generated sketches a Sim creates is a picture of Mrs. CrumplebottomCrumpleBottom.
*An "Auntie Crumplebottom" (who is usually believed to be Mrs. CrumpleBottom) is mentioned in the ''[[MySims]]'' games, where it is revealed that she had a niece named [[Elmira Clamp]]. This would seem to imply that Mrs. CrumpleBottom had at least one sibling, though their fate is unknown.
 
{{Warning-header|'''DO NOT''', under any circumstances, attempt to add Mrs. CrumpleBottom to a family, try to turn her into a supernatural creature, such as a vampire,<ref>Vampires in-game may attempt to bite her, as this is their default behavior. Doing so WILL cause game corruption. [http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,1482.html This mod] prevents this from occurring, as well as fixing many other bugs.</ref> a werewolf or a witch, make her selectable, or tamper with her in SimPE in '''any''' way or form. Doing so will cause game corruption, fixed only by uninstalling and reinstalling the game.}}
== Gallery ==
 
==Gallery==
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File:CrumpOutfit.jpg|Mrs. CrumpleBottom
File:Mrs._Crumplebottom Crumplebottom-1-.png|Mrs. CrumpleBottom Portrait.
File:Mrs._Crumplebottom_ Crumplebottom -_Sims_2 Sims 2-1-.jpg|A Sim getting attacked by Mrs. CrumpleBottom.
Dina smacked by Mrs. Crumplebottom 1.jpg|Mrs. Crumplebottom attacking [[Dina Caliente]] with her purse.
Dina smacked by Mrs. Crumplebottom 2.jpg
Dina smacked by Mrs. Crumplebottom 3.jpg
File:CrumplebottomLadies.jpg|A picture of the Crumplebottom ladies ([[Cornelia Goth]], [[Agnes Crumplebottom|Agnes]], [[Prudence Crumplebottom|Prudence]] and Mrs. Crumplebottom) with the purse.
File:Crumplebottomkids.png|Teenage children descended from Mrs. CrumpleBottom through the Tombstone of Life & Death (with Kaylynn Langerak)
</gallery>
 
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