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::::I think we've reached a point where asking a SimGuru about this on twitter would be easier than trying to parse out the timelines ourselves. [[User:Auror Andrachome|Ѧüя◎ґ]] ([[User talk:Auror Andrachome|talk]]) 21:24, June 4, 2019 (UTC)
:::::I can do that but SimGuru Morgan has already confirmed it on this livestream: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/426096933?t=01h09m32s
:::::Quote from Morgan at 01:09:32 ''"Mimi is the daughter of Malcolm Landgraab who in The Sims 4 is a teenager... in The Sims 4 starting off. So, in like the other Sims games, he is like a villainous tycoon."''
:::::I don't even know what more confirmation anyone could want at this point but if anyone wants me to ask a specific question on Twitter I'll do it. —<span style="font-family:'Georgia'; font-weight:bold;">[[User:Gvaudoin|<font color="black">Gvaudoin</font>]]</span> [[User talk:Gvaudoin|💬]] 21:50, June 4, 2019 (UTC)
::::::"I don't understand why this specific inconsistency would call the whole timeline into question while all the other inconsistencies don't." -> Because this one is about family relationships. Inconsistencies about traits, personnalities or even memories are just minor changes to adapt the game at each new generation or because the developpers made mistakes. But again they are minor and do not change the whole lore behind. Saying that Malcolm (The Sims 3) is Malcolm (TSBO) is a serious change in the lore itself since until now Malcolm (The Sims 3 PC) and Malcolm (The Sims 3 console) were supposed to be the same Sim. If you have others inconsistencies this big, I will be glad to read them (Bob and Betty Newbie were mentionned, but in The Sims 2 console they are clearly different Sims and the articles should be split in my opinion, but this is another discussion).
::::::"The Wiki should present the information from the games and point out inconsistencies in the articles." -> I agree. However our ideas to do it seems to differ. The livestream is not clear enough to consider it as a confirmation for merging all these Malcolm (again in my opinion). You can interpret it as "merge them" or you can interpret it as Malcolm (Gallery) is an alternate version of Malcolm (TSBO) because you know for a fact that TS4 is an alternate timeline. And as I said, it is not because Geoffrey and Nancy are the parents of the TS4 version of Malcolm (TSBO), that this is the case in the original timeline.
::::::I am just looking at the facts and linking them to try to extract the exact meaning of what this SimGuru said:
::::::#Malcolm (TS3 PC) is Malcolm (TS3 console). Source: Malcolm's bio in console ("moved from Sunset Valley). He is good. Father of Adrien.
::::::#Malcolm (TS1) is evil. Father of Mimi and Dudley.
::::::#TS4 is an alternate timeline.
::::::#Malcolm (TS4) is an alternate version of Malcolm (TS3).
::::::#Malcolm (Gallery) is Malcolm (TS4) but older.
::::::I can only find one solution to make it logical, without breaking the lore.
::::::I am talking, I am talking but to be honest I am pretty sure you are right and what you said is what they meant. But I am not buying this, even if it is from a SimGuru, because I am quite sure that so many people put their hands on the lore that now not many SimGuru might know well the lore like wikis communities know it, and so they tend to make discutable statements...
::::::--[[User:Aster09|Aster09]] <helper /> 23:01, June 4, 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Imo the best idea would be to keep The Sims 4 stuff, move The Sims 3 stuff to "Malcolm Landgraab (The Sims 3)" and merge Malcolm Landgraab (console) with this article, he's the first Malcolm Landgraab that was introduced after all; since Malcolm from The Sims 4 was confirmed to be a younger version of the elder Sim that is an alternative timeline version of Malcolm from The Sims for consoles, he shouldn't therefore be in the same article as Malcolm from SV, even though his parents' names are Nancy and Geoffrey (it could be a coincidence after all, or an easter egg made by the creators, or they just merged Malcolm from TS1 for consoles and TS3 to create him and decided to use Nancy and Geoffrey as his parents)
:::::::Malcolm from console versions of The Sims isn't the same Sim as the Sunset Valley Malcolm, since Malcolm is already an adult and has a wife and a teenage son in The Sims 3 for console; he wouldn't have time to have 2 adult kids by the time of The Sims for consoles, and since Mimi and Mortimer are in the same life stage there, Malcolm (from consoles) is in the same generation as Mortimer's parents and Malcolm's (TS3) parents, so he's most likely Nancy's brother that moved out (like Frida), but it's only a theory, a The Sims theory [[User:Jaceu|Jaceu]] ([[User talk:Jaceu|talk]]) 18:33, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
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