The Sims Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 12: Difference between revisions

== New background? ==

 

 

So my question to you all: '''Do you agree or disagree with the proposal?''' Please also leave comments. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]^{[[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]}''' 07:21, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

 

::I '''agree'''. [[User:BobNewbie |<font color="green">'''Zombie''' </font>]]^{[[User_talk:BobNewbie |<font color="red ">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:BobNewbie |<font color="blue">blog</font>]]} 08:28, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

 

:I really like the idea. --[[User:BobNewbie |<font color="green">'''Zombie''' </font>]]^{[[User_talk:BobNewbie |<font color="red ">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:BobNewbie |<font color="blue">blog</font>]]} 09:40, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

:::So, if the idea is put forward, I was thinking we hand out awards, similar to the fannies idea which was proposed a couple of months ago. The only problem that I could see is no one submitting videos, but I suppose we could only have a few, and forget the category thing. I hope it doesn't end up like the first fanon logo contest, though. --'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="black">W</font>]][[User_blog:Woganhemlock|<font color="orange">H</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(Talk)</font>]]}''' 05:15, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

 

::::According to [[User blog:XoTulleMorXo/Wiki Staff Page|this blog]], Auror is working on a page, which is [[User:Auror Andrachome/Staff|here]], that is more or less a staff page. I suggest we slightly modify it to include rollbacks, and we can use that. --'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="black">Wogan</font>]][[User_blog:Woganhemlock|<font color="orange">Hemlock</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(Talk to meeee!!)</font>]]}''' 05:42, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

:::::I think we could just use [[User:Auror Andrachome|Auror]]'s [[User:Auror Andrachome/Staff|staff page]] and, if the community agrees, adding a list of users with the ability to rollback edits. Though, I can think of many disadvantages to that so I support continuing to use the [[The Sims Wiki:Administrators|Administrators]] page, or Auror's staff page as it is currently. --'''[[user:Bleeh|<font color="navy">Bleeh</font>]]'''^{[[User talk: Bleeh|<font color="#489094">(talk)</font>]]} ^{[[User blog:Bleeh|<font color="#489094">(blog)</font>]]} 23:53, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

 

:::::::I believe that we don't need a page for rollbackers, but not because they don't work hard and such. [[User:BobNewbie |<font color="green">'''Zombie''' </font>]]^{[[User_talk:BobNewbie |<font color="red ">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:BobNewbie |<font color="blue">blog</font>]]} 16:26, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

::I agree with LiR, as admins are not always around, and fanon sysops could help out with their duties, e.g. blocking mass vandals, etc. Also, I don't feel that wikia would be willing to make a new user class for just one wiki. --'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="black">Wogan</font>]][[User_blog:Woganhemlock|<font color="orange">Hemlock</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(Talk to meeee!!)</font>]]}''' 08:12, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

:::Well, I don't agree. I mean, I like our Fanon Admin system. The Fanon namespace is big and important enough to have it's own list of admins, and I think it's good for Fanon Admins to stay separate from regular Admins. If we dissolve the Fanon Admin positions, and make them regular admins, where would they edit? If we do that, then our admins would most likely just edit either the main articles or the fanon ones, leaving the other in the dust. Also, if we do combine them, they would have a large array of articles to edit, whereas if they stayed as Fanon Admins, they would just have the fanon articles to worry about. And Wogan, it's okay, they've created plenty of user classes for other wikis before. —[[User:Random Ranaun|<font color="#008000">Random Ranaun</font>]] ^{([[User talk:Random Ranaun|<font color="#00FF00">Talk to me!</font>]])} 11:47, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

:::::If an administrator has in their responsibilities a duty to monitor the fanon namespace specifically, then Bureaucrats would be able to discipline them if they weren't fulfilling that responsibility. Also, the way you talk RR, it's as if you don't want a fanon administrator to ''ever'' edit anything else on the wiki - administrators are members too and should be able to edit anywhere they want. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]^{[[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]}''' 16:43, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

::::::LiR, I'm not saying that they shouldn't be able to edit anywhere else on the wiki, I'm just saying that their main priority should be to maintain the Fanon namespace, and they should only have admin powers on the FN. Since the Fanon Namespace has different policies and guidelines, so, it should have it's own admins. However, the fanon admins should have less abilities than full admins, but more than rollbackers. So, they should have less abilities, but just enough to manage the Fanon namespace, especially in the absence of a full administrator. —[[User:Random Ranaun|<font color="#008000">Random Ranaun</font>]] ^{([[User talk:Random Ranaun|<font color="#00FF00">Talk to me!</font>]])} 20:40, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

:::::::::::::Well, I don't see why we can't merge the sysop class into normal admins, and their task is specifically '''Fanon''' related, but not restricted to it, like me with the newsletter, and Bleeh as a community director, etc. [[User:BobNewbie |<font color="green">'''Zombie''' </font>]]^{[[User_talk:BobNewbie |<font color="red ">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:BobNewbie |<font color="blue">blog</font>]]} 15:18, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

:Well, as the only active fanon admin, I do think we should just merge the fanon class with the full sysop class. I still do want full access to the original sysop tools I.E. blocking, deleting articles, deleting redirects and all that. {{AurorSig}}

:::We have a lot of sysops and bureaucrats, so I don't think we have to worry about that. —[[User:Random Ranaun|<font color="#008000">Random Ranaun</font>]] ^{([[User talk:Random Ranaun|<font color="#00FF00">Talk to me!</font>]])} 20:06, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

 

{{VoteAgainst}} '''Strong Oppose''' - I am opposed to the idea of making a separate fanon-admin class. It would mean that they would not be able to take action against vandals when no other users are around and not able to delete spam and vandalism in the main namespace. I feel the best option would be to keep the current system or merge the classes. --'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="black">W</font>]][[User_blog:Woganhemlock|<font color="orange">H</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(Talk)</font>]]}''' 05:29, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

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{{VoteFor}} '''Strong Support''' - I believe that creating a fanon-sysop class would be much easier for regulating fanon. The Fanon Namespace is large and important enough to warrant it's own group of administrators, and I would prefer them to stay separate from regular sysops. They should only have administrator rights in the Fanon Namespace to make it easier for them to have one priority, which is editing the Fanon Namespace, just to make sure that they are not swamped when trying to edit both the mainspace and the fanonspace. If we have sysops exclusive to the Fanon Namespace, the Fanon Namespace will become much stronger, and vandalism and poorly-written pages in the fanonspace will become less frequent. —[[User:Random Ranaun|<font color="#008000">Random Ranaun</font>]] ^{([[User talk:Random Ranaun|<font color="#00FF00">Talk to me!</font>]])} 04:44, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

 

Could someone please try to find/upload the images for Wii and DS The Sims 3 traits? We're in need of them. Thanks! --[[User:BobNewbie |<font color="green">'''Zombie''' </font>]]^{[[User_talk:BobNewbie |<font color="red ">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:BobNewbie |<font color="blue">blog</font>]]} 15:21, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

::On a related note, we need images of Rebellious and Nutruing for Generations. I'd get them myself, but I don't have Generations yet. --'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="black">W</font>]][[User_blog:Woganhemlock|<font color="orange">H</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(Talk)</font>]]}''' 08:10, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

:::As soon as I posted, I realised we already have the images, haha. --'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="black">W</font>]][[User_blog:Woganhemlock|<font color="orange">H</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(Talk)</font>]]}''' 00:04, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

::::I think a game release would be a great time to plan a spotlight, since there needs to be many admins when both are happening. You might want to see if you could get one soon though, as ''Generations'' comes out next week! --'''[[user:Bleeh|<font color="navy">Bleeh</font>]]'''^{[[User talk: Bleeh|<font color="#489094">(talk)</font>]]} ^{[[User blog:Bleeh|<font color="#489094">(blog)</font>]]} 03:22, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

:::::Just a note - Wikia needs substantial notification for spotlights, i.e. more than a week, so we can't do one for Generations. However, we could get one for a later expansion, there will probably be one around November. --'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="black">W</font>]][[User_blog:Woganhemlock|<font color="orange">H</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(Talk)</font>]]}''' 05:03, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

 

:Ok, update. The way things stand, we have 3 active bureaucrats, 5 or 6, active admins, 1 active rollback and 2 active fanon admins. Note - I'm going off how recently the users have contributed. I think that should be enough to cope with a wave of vandalism, and, let's face it, that will happen. We have a sysop on around the clock usually, so not much will happen. I think we should just take it as we go, for now. --'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="black">W</font>]][[User_blog:Woganhemlock|<font color="orange">H</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(Talk)</font>]]}''' 00:11, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

::[[The Sims Wiki:Requests for administratorship|Requests for administratorship]] and [[The Sims Wiki:Requests for fanon administratorship|fanon administratorship]] are also open currently, but no one has applied yet. If we get applicants that ultimately become (fanon) administrators, that will only help when traffic increases. I support a spotlight request for the month of October, even with the present number of administrators. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]^{[[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]}''' 00:30, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

:::Should we make the request soon? I think we should get this confirmed, because these spotlights can be really difficult to get. --'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="black">W</font>]][[User_blog:Woganhemlock|<font color="orange">H</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(Talk)</font>]]}'''

::::I've just checked on community central and we need to meet [http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Community_Central:Spotlights these reqirements.] <span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge gold; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(black), to(orange)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, blue, black); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black">[[User:Woganhemlock|<span style="color: gold; font-family:trebuchet ms; text-shadow: #000000 0 1px 1px;">'''''WH'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Woganhemlock|^{'''<font color="silver; font-family:"trebuchet ms">Talk</font>'''}]]</span> 01:58, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

::::::I've already submitted [http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Community_Central_talk:Spotlights#The_Sims_Wiki a request] for spotlight, and have not seen any response yet. We'll see! -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]^{[[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]}''' 21:10, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

 

Thoughts? -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]^{[[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]}''' 23:47, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

 

::I agree with Georgie, though I have a question: What will happen if there's too many administrators in one AP? --'''[[user:Bleeh|<font color="navy">Bleeh</font>]]'''^{[[User talk: Bleeh|<font color="#489094">(talk)</font>]]} ^{[[User blog:Bleeh|<font color="#489094">(blog)</font>]]} 00:20, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

:::Since bureaucrats would be responsible for determining who serves in which AP, bureaucrats would prevent one AP from having too many administrators working in it. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]^{[[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]}''' 00:42, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

::::I like this idea. However, will administrators be able to choose more than two APs? —[[User:Random Ranaun|<font color="#008000">Random Ranaun</font>]] ^{([[User talk:Random Ranaun|<font color="#00FF00">Talk to me!</font>]])} 00:56, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

::::::I don't think you can have too many people working on an AP, only too few people on an AP. So I think admins should be able to choose as many as they want, so long as we have enough people working on each AP. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]^{[[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]}''' 01:07, June 1, 2011 (UTC)</li></ol>

:::::::I do like this idea. With it, we will be able to make sure that specific areas are taken care of. I presume that, if a merge between the classes happens, the Fanon Admins would still have fanon as one of their projects. --'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="black">W</font>]][[User_blog:Woganhemlock|<font color="orange">H</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(Talk)</font>]]}''' 05:13, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

:At the start, yes the Fanon Administrators would. They could request to pick up other APs and drop the Fanon one if they wanted, depending on which APs need more administrators and which do not. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]^{[[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]}''' 18:01, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

::This is a pretty cool idea, but what will happen to the [[The Sims Wiki:Special positions|Special positions]] once APs are implemented? —[[User:Random Ranaun|<font color="#008000">Random Ranaun</font>]] ^{([[User talk:Random Ranaun|<font color="#00FF00">Talk to me!</font>]])} 19:41, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

::::The special positions may be phased out eventually, with a special process to select the Ombudsman (since they don't need to be administrators). It's been too difficult to get administrators to apply for these positions. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]^{[[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]}''' 21:56, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

===Proposal consensus===

 

What do you think of the idea? (I'll make the page if no one minds) [[User:Nikel23|Nikel23]] 01:00, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

::It's true, some objects are notable (I don't intend to add ALL objects though). But those objects like [[pirate ship]] couldn't be elaborated more than one paragraph, so it would waste a page. Cars are different as they're quite special objects. Also, we don't really have to explain everything about one certain object. Just the main point, or the summary. [[User:Nikel23|Nikel23]] 05:56, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

:::True, there isn't much to write about for many objects. I say the list seems fine, but I don't really want to delete all the pages on things like the pirate ship, even if they are stubs. I think that we should have a page like the list of moodlets one, but for objects. We would then let special objects (haven't thought of a definition for what we can call spacial, any ideas?) have their own page. Thoughts? --'''[[User:Woganhemlock|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="black">W</font>]][[User_blog:Woganhemlock|<font color="orange">H</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:Woganhemlock|<font color="grey">(Talk)</font>]]}''' 05:29, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

 

We can bring the Wikia live chat to the wiki, it will help connecting all users together like the one in L.A Noire Wiki.[[User:Mr.Wikia|Mr.Wikia]] 16:26, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

 

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