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(This is a discussion about CAS stories. Tell your story at Talk:Create-A-Sim)
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== Policy on Writing and Editing [[Player stories]] ==
''This page is an archived discussion. To discuss it currently please use the talk page.''


I would like to introduce some policy on writing and editing [[Player stories]]. Should the player stories submitted be left as-is or edited? Anything inappropriate or that contradicts existing policy should be removed immediately of course. But a lot of the stories have misspellings, bad grammar, etc. I think we need some guidelines on how much we (the editors) are allowed to edit, yet still resemble the personal style of the writer, which is the whole point of having these sections.


Points to consider:
* How long should a story be?
** We don't want them to write a novel. I suggest one paragraph, 3 to 5 sentences.
* Should links to other premade Sims be included if mentioned
** I don't really care, but it would mean a lot of editing
* Spelling & Grammar
** I think this should be corrected
* User tags, signatures, etc.
** I think these should be kept
* Personal opinions
** I think these should be kept


Any other suggestions?
==Voting Delete or Keep or Move==


-- [[User:A morris|A morris]] 00:22, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Delete {''CAS sim pages would fill up this wikia with pointless information.'') [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 17:00, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


:I think that's a great idea. Before I had an idea that the player stories be put on the talk pages but it would require a lot of work. However with the user tags and signatures I believe that they should put <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after their player story whether they are a anonymous user or not. If a player links to other pre made sims that should be okay to. On the idea that if it was on a talk page we wouldn't have the problem of bad spelling and grammar on the actual informational part of the page. --[[User:Makiah|<font color="red">Makiah</font>]] [[User talk:Makiah|<small><font color="red">(talk)</font></small>]] 16:19, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Move? I don't mind if they're kept here or not, but rather than simply deleting them, if the pages contain useful information, we could make a spin-off wiki for CAS Sims. [[User:Angela|Angela]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Angela|talk]]) 04:45, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think moving the player stories to the talk page is a good idea. [[User:A morris|A morris]] 19:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Rather than making separate pages we could have 'one page' for CAS sims for all different users and delete the [rest, since most CAS sim pages are very short and contain one line (from what I have read). I know there is a page where people can talk about their CAS families. [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 05:10, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I've started moving some stories to their talk page. I moved a ''really'' long story from [[Consort Capp]]'s page. I left the others with a note to see the talk page for more. -- [[User:A morris|A morris]] 14:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

:I had another idea. That of placing the player stories on a subpage of the character's page, ex. [[Bella Goth/player stories]]. That way the stories are on their own page and can even be placed in a "Player stories" category. The {{[[Template:Sim|Sim]]}} can be edited to automatically link to the subpage as well. [[User:A morris|-- a_morris]] 02:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm...actually I, too, prefer the idea of making a CAS sub-wiki or separate category. The game is just as much about customization as the stories/characters/info that ship with it. I do like that idea. I just don't think such Sims should be included in the actual game info, such as being listed in [[Pleasantview]]; this could confuse those not as familiar with the game as all of us are - people just wanting general information on The Sims 2 as it ships. I'm all for making a separate area for CAS info rather than simply deleting it - either way, though, I think they need to be moved or removed from where they are now. [[User:Skatoolaki|skatoolaki]] 13:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
::Over the next couple of days I'm going to be updating the {{[[Template:Sims|Sim]]}} to incorporate the idea stated in an earlier message as well as some other things. Because of this many of the Sims pages will require some editing but will hopefully make the template easier to use. [[User:A morris|-- a_morris]] 14:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
:If we were to make a spin off wiki for CAS sims and families, I believe that someone else would have to step up to the plate. I just recently (Like 1-2 days ago) took the job of admin on this wiki and I don't think I'm personally ready to start another wiki just for CAS sims.

:I also think it's hard for me (and anyone else who is not the beginner of the page) to expand CAS pages when they are not my sims. Thus we are left with blank pages or pages with one or two lines describing a sim, which seem a waste of space. I also don't think the categories thing will work because people tend to not always categorize everything the way it should be categorized.

:Maybe instead of many different pages we could use the [[Create-A-Sim|CAS]] page to describe what a CAS sim is and the talk page could be where people talk about their characters. We could merge all CAS pages together in the talk. Where older pages come in we could take the original owner's name or ip and say "SoandSo says..." then what they posted in a page(s). I don't think many people have posted their CAS sims but I think the few who have, created many pages for different characters of their families. Then we could make an announcement of the new page to post CAS sim information and archive the older pages when they get full.

:I think this is a better idea than deleting them. That way members are still heard but it is differenciated between base game and CAS sims. The same thing could also be done with objects. Though I think we should cross that road when we get to it. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 16:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

::It certainly would be more work - and likely confusion - for all involved. I see your point, Makiah (and gratz on the Admin position). The idea of a Create-A-Sim page detailing what they are all about and the 'Talk' feature allowing people to describe, talk about, and share their custom made Sims sounds like a fair and efficient idea to me. That way we could take the CAS Sim pages already made on the Wiki and paste them into the 'Talk' section of that page. I'm all for that. [[User:Skatoolaki|skatoolaki]] 16:39, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

:::Thanks! ^_^
:::I want to get this done as soon as possible so it's off the plate. So we will start the voting procedures again and disregard the old vote. Voting ends when there are 10 votes or after 2 weeks, which ever comes first (unless there is a tie, cross the road when we get there). If there is another option voting will restart again that way we include it. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 17:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Quick idea, what does everyone think about moving the Player stories to the talk pages of those particular characters? Not a big issue, but I think it would add neatness and allow people to sign their post. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 20:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm all about neatness! Whatever we can do keep the wiki clean, efficient, and informational, I'm all for it. (BTW, and hate to ask here so you can delete this afterwards, how does one go about applying to be an officer/admin-type? Thx).
:::::Well, I'm sure Angela could give you a better explanation if mine doesn't cover any of your questions but if you want to create a sub wiki, you are the admin of it. However, if you want to be like me and take over a wiki they first determine if the admin of the wiki has been active. If they haven't edited in the past two months they are not active and you can then apply to an admin, like Angela to [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Adopt_this_wiki Adopt a Wiki]. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 21:54, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Alright well the votes going to be officially closed. To be honest I didn't think we would get 10 people. But I guess since I opened it to unregistered users it upéd the vote. Alright so just in case someone else votes after this. Voting results were: 1 Delete, 2 Keep, 1 new wiki, 6 talk page, 0 other. I'll start moving the CAS sim pages to the talk page and deleting them afterwards. If anyone helps and they transfer the data from the actual page to the CAS talk page. Please report the page so I know to delete it with a simple message letting me know. I'll start most of the work tomorrow though. ~ [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 04:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::: I would suggest that they be moved to the user's page or user subpages. A category could be made to keep track of them. -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 17:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: I think that would have been a great idea however because we already voted I think it's hard to re-vote. I would be willing to consider creating a new vote if there were enough people behind it. To be honest I'm happy with the solution we came up with. [[User:Makiah|Makiah]] 01:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

<poll>
What should we do with CAS pages?
Delete them --They could potentially fill up this wiki with pointless information.
Keep them --They are part of the game after all, Sims was based on the fact that players can costumize their games.
Create a new wiki for the sole purpose of CAS sims.
Use the CAS sim page and talk page to host CAS sims from other players.
Other --Explain in a post.
</poll>


[[Category: Discussions]]

Revision as of 04:58, 11 November 2008

Policy on Writing and Editing Player stories

I would like to introduce some policy on writing and editing Player stories. Should the player stories submitted be left as-is or edited? Anything inappropriate or that contradicts existing policy should be removed immediately of course. But a lot of the stories have misspellings, bad grammar, etc. I think we need some guidelines on how much we (the editors) are allowed to edit, yet still resemble the personal style of the writer, which is the whole point of having these sections.

Points to consider:

  • How long should a story be?
    • We don't want them to write a novel. I suggest one paragraph, 3 to 5 sentences.
  • Should links to other premade Sims be included if mentioned
    • I don't really care, but it would mean a lot of editing
  • Spelling & Grammar
    • I think this should be corrected
  • User tags, signatures, etc.
    • I think these should be kept
  • Personal opinions
    • I think these should be kept

Any other suggestions?

-- A morris 00:22, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that's a great idea. Before I had an idea that the player stories be put on the talk pages but it would require a lot of work. However with the user tags and signatures I believe that they should put ~~~~ after their player story whether they are a anonymous user or not. If a player links to other pre made sims that should be okay to. On the idea that if it was on a talk page we wouldn't have the problem of bad spelling and grammar on the actual informational part of the page. --Makiah (talk) 16:19, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I think moving the player stories to the talk page is a good idea. A morris 19:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
I've started moving some stories to their talk page. I moved a really long story from Consort Capp's page. I left the others with a note to see the talk page for more. -- A morris 14:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I had another idea. That of placing the player stories on a subpage of the character's page, ex. Bella Goth/player stories. That way the stories are on their own page and can even be placed in a "Player stories" category. The {{Sim}} can be edited to automatically link to the subpage as well. -- a_morris 02:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Over the next couple of days I'm going to be updating the {{Sim}} to incorporate the idea stated in an earlier message as well as some other things. Because of this many of the Sims pages will require some editing but will hopefully make the template easier to use. -- a_morris 14:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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