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:I know there was a previous discussion, and like it states if you want to bring the subject up again make a new thread, so I did. That last discussion was inconclusive more than anything else...
:I know there was a previous discussion, and like it states if you want to bring the subject up again make a new thread, so I did. That last discussion was inconclusive more than anything else...
:Sorry I didn't know that, to me I think a poll is a better way to decide things like this, I think you get a better answer rather than discussing it. People are more likely to press a button that says "yes" or "no" rather than having a big disscussion. Also, to what extent in the discussion will results be decided? I dont want the discussion to die off again, i think polls give you more precise answers than a genreal discussion... From a discussion how do we know what the final "say" will be to make changes or not? In a poll the results are right there I think you would get a better result from that, but if the rules say you need to have a disscussion then a discussion it is, I personally think the poll results should stand though? Anyway, what is your thought on this then? If its a discussion we have to have what do you think on the situation?<br>'''''[http://soulcalibur.wikia.com/wiki/User:JaseyJasee <font COLOR="red">Jasey</font><font COLOR="black">Jasee</font>]''''' ([[User talk:JaseyJasee|talk]]) 13:16, June 1, 2015 (UTC)
:Sorry I didn't know that, to me I think a poll is a better way to decide things like this, I think you get a better answer rather than discussing it. People are more likely to press a button that says "yes" or "no" rather than having a big disscussion. Also, to what extent in the discussion will results be decided? I dont want the discussion to die off again, i think polls give you more precise answers than a genreal discussion... From a discussion how do we know what the final "say" will be to make changes or not? In a poll the results are right there I think you would get a better result from that, but if the rules say you need to have a disscussion then a discussion it is, I personally think the poll results should stand though? Anyway, what is your thought on this then? If its a discussion we have to have what do you think on the situation?<br>'''''[http://soulcalibur.wikia.com/wiki/User:JaseyJasee <font COLOR="red">Jasey</font><font COLOR="black">Jasee</font>]''''' ([[User talk:JaseyJasee|talk]]) 13:16, June 1, 2015 (UTC)
::You can use polls to a general mood, but they can't be used to establish a policy or practice. The poll feature is notoriously easy to mislead, so we can't be guaranteed of its accuracy. Not to mention, discussing solutions is important, as there are often details to be worked out; it's a kind of nuance that a simple yes/no poll just isn't able to achieve. All that being said, there's nothing wrong with using a poll informally.

::Onto the subject at hand, I do think that splitting those pages might be a good idea. '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] • [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 14:11, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

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Forums: IndexCommunity discussionsNew Discussion - Should we separate The Sims 4 information from the Original pages? | Post

This is my Original post found HERE

Many, many, many times The Sims DEVS have stated that The Sims 4 universe is a completely different world from The Sims 1/2/3 plus spinoffs universe. So why are the characters who appear in the original universe and the new universe still on the same page? Like Bella Goth for example? I suggest that these pages should be separated! So we would have Bella Goth or Bella Goth (Original) which would focus on her life from the original universe, then Bella Goth (The Sims 4) or Bella Goth (Alternative) that will focus on her life from the new universe and any possible sequels in the future. I mean the characters from The Sims 4 are actually completely different characters from their original counterparts so I think the pages should be separate. As The Sims 4 is a completely different universe some information conflicts with information established in the original series.

I think this Wiki should follow the path that the Tomb Raider wikia has done to show the different Lara's like this:
Lara Croft (Original Timeline)
Lara Croft (Legend Timeline)
Lara Croft (Rise Timeline)

Basically, what I'm saying is we copy the information established about The Sims 4 from character/family pages and put the information on subsequent pages about said character/family. Give the information a bit of a clean up and what not. It may be a tedious process at first but it's the simplest solution seems that nothing has been done. 

Many Wiki's have adopted this sort of thing for separate timelines now, or even different forms of characters. Examples of this are the Tomb Raider one's shown above as well as:
Nightmare (Main Page)
Nightmare (Siegfried)
Nightmare (Inferno)
Nightmare (Graf Dumas) All of that is from the Soulcalibur Wiki, it was a very recent change that didn't take very long and it was lead by me (I'm an Admin over there).Also the Sonic Wiki which has seperated the Main timeline from the Boom timeline.

If we adopt something like the examples shown this Wiki could look a bit cleaner and it would be less confusing for people as well. Obviously if the change does happen I will be happy to help make it happen and get the pages set up and what not.

So what do you think we should do? Should we separate the pages? I mean, it would make more sense as the characters from The Sims 4 are completely different characters than the ones in the original timeline.

Should Characters from The Sims 4 who also appear in the original games get a different page for their Sims 4 counterparts?
Please vote below.
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There were 0 votes since the poll was created on 01:43, 12 December 2021.
poll-id 673180020440CD23A20999AC4B9816EE

—Preceding unsigned comment added by JaseyJasee (talkcontribs) 03:25, June 1, 2015‎ (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~~~~

Discussion

This was already discussed at Forum:Organization for TS4 timeline, but the discussion died off as a consensus was silently formed. Also, per our voting policy, polls cannot be used to conduct votes, and votes should generally be used as a last resort: consensus gained through discussion should be used first. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 11:26, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

I know there was a previous discussion, and like it states if you want to bring the subject up again make a new thread, so I did. That last discussion was inconclusive more than anything else...
Sorry I didn't know that, to me I think a poll is a better way to decide things like this, I think you get a better answer rather than discussing it. People are more likely to press a button that says "yes" or "no" rather than having a big disscussion. Also, to what extent in the discussion will results be decided? I dont want the discussion to die off again, i think polls give you more precise answers than a genreal discussion... From a discussion how do we know what the final "say" will be to make changes or not? In a poll the results are right there I think you would get a better result from that, but if the rules say you need to have a disscussion then a discussion it is, I personally think the poll results should stand though? Anyway, what is your thought on this then? If its a discussion we have to have what do you think on the situation?
JaseyJasee (talk) 13:16, June 1, 2015 (UTC)
You can use polls to a general mood, but they can't be used to establish a policy or practice. The poll feature is notoriously easy to mislead, so we can't be guaranteed of its accuracy. Not to mention, discussing solutions is important, as there are often details to be worked out; it's a kind of nuance that a simple yes/no poll just isn't able to achieve. All that being said, there's nothing wrong with using a poll informally.
Onto the subject at hand, I do think that splitting those pages might be a good idea. LostInRiverview talkblogcontribs 14:11, June 1, 2015 (UTC)