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I liked Sims 3 Unleashed better? :P♥Icyyy♥ 00:42, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

TS2 Pets and TS3 Pets Title[edit source]

It's a little weird, because EA never used the same title for an expansion pack... And we've got our lives a little harder because we'll have to distinguish the Pets from The Sims 2 and the Pets from The Sims 3. Any suggestions? DanPin .:::. Talk 17:46, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Searching for P will take the user to The Sims 3: Pets, so we have a shortcut, like all TS3 titles. I guess if anyone is going to add to tne article, they check that the information is for the right game. Lost Labyrinth (c)(b) 17:21, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
Good idea. Or perhaps we could insert into the article an infobox saying that "This section only describes features existent in [EP name here]". DanPin .:::. Talk 20:29, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
Seeing how many animal species are included in this pack, EA should have named it The Sims 3 Animals rather than use the same name... Seriously... >:( Nikel Talk 08:43, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

The Sims 3: Pets and The Sims 3: Pets(Console)[edit source]

I was thinking that this article needs to be split into two seperate articles. The Sims 2 Pets was split into two articles; The Sims 2 Pets and The Sims 2 Pets (Console). The same should be applied to The Sims 3: Pets. This way features of the PC/MAC version won't be mistaken for a feature on the PS3 version. It would also keep the article uncluttered and neat. To see the difference compare the PC/Mac and Console articles for The Sims 2: Pets The Black Scorpion 12:43, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, but wait for a bit more feedback before you do it. --WH talk 06:29, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
Others needs to give their thoughts on this soon before the page gets too cluthered with info for both versions. The Black Scorpion 16:58, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
I support splitting it up right now. Patko0770 20:24, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
It should be done, but I don't think there's a need to do it right away. Dharden (talk) 21:16, June 23, 2011 (UTC)
I agree, but only until both games are released or so. Nikel23 02:12, June 24, 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps wait until we have more information abut the games, or closer to the release date. --WH (talk) 07:32, June 24, 2011 (UTC)
I agree also. I was a bit confused when reading the article about which features were PC and which were console.
I think we should wait for the games to come out. Alex9400 17:07, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

New Job for Sims?[edit source]

Maybe sims will be able to have a job as a breeder.. Jones143Talk

I doubt it. EA haven't announced any new jobs for Sims. Lost Labyrinth (c)(b) 13:53, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Where can you get a cat/dog if you have an existing sim/family?[edit source]

Will you get it from a pet store (hopefully not or EA doesn't know about pet mills) or a shelter? I saw a picture of a pet store but not sure if the pets can be adopted from a shelter. I know this is a silly question and this isn't even reality but this game sounds so exciting and basically want to know everything about it!—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:|]] ([[User talk:|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/|contribs]]) (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~~~~

I know it's exciting, but we all have to wait to see, I don't really know the answer, but soon you'll know when you have the game ^^. --Guilherme Guerreiro(talk here) 16:47, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
It's quite likely that there will be a pet shop in my opinion. But hey, I know nothing! :P Lost Labyrinth (c)(b) 20:34, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
I wouldn't be surprised if the pet store was added and became like the grocery sore/book store, and allowed sims to get part-time jobs. But this is all just speculation... --WH (Talk) 06:52, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the replies everyone!
EA will only include a Pet store for the Pre-order edition of the PC game. Probably the rest of the players will just probably make a phone call, or such.
It's NOT a pet store. It's a shop where you can get unique items for your pets.The Black Scorpion 00:59, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
Oh okay! Thanks The Black Scorpian! That was helpful :) I didn't see that in there website but it's actually true!

If I made a pet I would make him Agile Brave Friendly Loyal Hyper ;D (Gotta love the hyper ones) btw the pet shop is nice I hope we can see the traits of pets we purchase, because I don't want to purchase a cat who is Lazy Destructive Stupid ;p and I also hope for a Pet Show!!!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Contractas1 (talkcontribs) (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~~~~

Haha, I made all my TS2 pets hyper, it's so funny when they run around like mad. --WH (talk) 06:27, June 22, 2011 (UTC)
if this expansion pack is relased, i swear i will bring back my evil, mean, destructive cas bulldog pet back from ts2! :D Wir.wiryawan 05:18, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
if? what do you mean if it is released? Pets is coming out in late October or Early November.--The Black Scorpion 19:05, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
I think he meant "when"... who doesn't know it'll be relased soon anyway? ^^ Nikel23 02:34, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
soon? no. it's gonna go; town life stuff July, Medieval EP1 August and Pets late October/Early November.--The Black Scorpion 05:26, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
O.O I never really notice the date, but Boy, EA seems to be working 24/7 or maybe they just have too many workers! Nikel (Talk to me!) 12:35, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I will buy this[edit source]

yes I will RebeccaBlack 23:19, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

I so want this for PC.[edit source]

This would be a great game on PC.

Can#t wait for it to come out.

I reckon the PC version will be better than the console. *shudders just thinking about it* Lost Labyrinth (c)(b) 17:08, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pet traits to Pet page[edit source]

I think that we should move all the traits of the pets to the Pet page, below the sims 3 section. Jones143Talk

Cover[edit source]

Again, The Sims 3 Pets doesn't show a new life state at the cover just like Generations despite Imaginary Friend presence... Why can't EA at least show the picture of new life state, just like Mummy in World Adventures, SimBot in Ambitions, and Vampire in Late Night?? They simply don't want to make a pattern, do they!? Just like its name, Pets. It's already used in The Sims 2 Pets! Nikel23 14:28, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps they are not adding a new one. --Guilherme Guerreiro(talk here) 14:34, June 24, 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps... but in fact, they did add in Generations though it's not shown. Nikel23 14:45, June 24, 2011 (UTC)
Then, it's a surprise, don't worry ;). --Guilherme Guerreiro(talk here) 14:46, June 24, 2011 (UTC)
according to Graham Nardone, this box art is not the real thing12. it's a concept box art. it should be removed. that and only the english version should be added once it is released.--The Black Scorpion 15:45, June 24, 2011 (UTC)
The Black Scorpion- I think any countries we can get should be allowed to place their version on, it's not fair if they can't. And anyways, it'll be a surprise. If you count animals as a life state they have. 20:04, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
even there is no news about new creature, on this cover unofficial cover the grim reaper pic on this cool dont you think? --Wir.wiryawan 13:52, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, indeed it is cool! XD Buuuuuuuuut... I prefer if EA stays with the pattern. First Mummy, then Simbot, after that Vampire, aaaand... no Imaginary friend shown! And this time as well... Nikel (Talk to me!) 14:01, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
Because it's gonna be a surprise? either that or because the Grim Reaper plays a bigger part in Pets. In a recent tweet SimGuruGraham said that "there is going to be a very special creature in Pets"[1]. This leads me to believe that the werewolf will not return.--The Black Scorpion 14:42, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
Why does it have to be a werewolf? Think about it I mean perhaps there will be unicornes (since there are horses in the game) or something else..... Vss2eiptalk here 19:25, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
O.O I never thought about that... but I'm here looking forward to Sim's alternative life state, not animals. Nikel Talk 09:07, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
I think it's a matter of time before we find out what the life state is - remember there's still a couple of months to it's release! ~>ђ (tคlкς๏ภtгเ๒ร) 09:17, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
Or maybe a magic life state since in the video the Grim Reaper goes into a portal with his horse.... Vss2eiptalk here 09:43, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
It's a feature, not a life state, though... Nikel Talk 10:15, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

New Traits[edit source]

So I see there's only 1 new trait for the Sims, according to a source or so... Hopefully there'll be more. Why I said that? because previously, Generations was announced to add new traits, that are Rebellious and Nurturing. It turned out that both were the only new traits added! I thought those were just some! Nikel23 16:17, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

What? There are a lot of new traits, traits for pets that is. Pet traits are the only traits that have been revealed thus far, nobody knows what the new Sim traits are.The Black Scorpion 20:34, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
Well, I saw there's only one, Fur Allergy, and I'm afraid that's the only new trait for Sims... Nikel23 10:49, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
Just because that's the only Sim trait mentioned thus far, that doesn't mean that it's the only one. There's still a massive amount of info that we don't know yet.--The Black Scorpion 11:48, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
To be honest, I don't really mind if there's only one trait for Sims. There are already a massive variety of traits for pets, and that'll be enough fun for a long while! :). --BobNewbie ∞(Talk)∞ 12:07, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
Well, I collect the image. See my picture? I also use it as my twitter background. :p Nikel23 12:15, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
There is a hidden trait on generation called Lazy. this trait do not have any icon and dont have any effect to sim. when i looking for information about this trait i found this:
its look like this hidden trait is for pets expansion pack. why they put it in generations? Wir.wiryawan 16:29, July 2, 2011 (UTC)
They might have included it with Gen/the latest patch by accident. It'll most likely remain hidden until Pets is released. Either that or the Town Life Stuff patch will remove it.--The Black Scorpion 20:33, July 2, 2011 (UTC)
Woah, that's so intriguing, Wir.wiryawan! Where and how did you find it? Nikel23 02:20, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
He most likely looked in the game code for the info on the trait. If you use Twallan's Master Controller you can see it listed with the hidden traits.--The Black Scorpion 03:38, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
actually, TWO traits for sims have been confirmed ^^

Release Date[edit source]

The North American release date has been announced via the Sims 3 Facebook Page.[2] The release date is October 25th. I added the date but it doesn't show it. Why is this?The Black Scorpion 16:11, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

The parameter in the infobox was incorrect, and it seems to be in all game infoboxes too. I've fixed it though. ~>ђ (tคlкς๏ภtгเ๒ร) 09:19, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

New Info[edit source]

Found in SimPrograms. 03:49, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

While interesting, I'm not sure about the validity of this. As SimPrograms is more or less a forum (I think), the info could be from anywhere. If someone else could provide an official EA source I'd include this. ~>ђ (Ŧlยttєгรђא ƒтω!) 04:03, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
EA will not confirm any of this yet, as the game is still under development and there is a NDA in place. The info is real, it can be found in the DeltaBuild0.package and then STBL. Anyone with a tool to view the contents of .package files and that have the Town Life Patch will be able to find this info. It should also be noted that the info about Pets in that file is subject to change as the game is still three months away from being finished. Original source and SimsVIP who made an archive of the info in said file spoiler.--The Black Scorpion 08:08, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
unicorn? i prefer werewolf.... Wir.wiryawan 10:00, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, another anonymous user found this a couple of days ago. if this is confirmed true, we can finnaly add the unicorn to the creature box, because users keep adding it and I keep erasing it, not knowing if it's true! Vss2eiptalk here 10:05, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
we don't need to add the unicorn as the creature until we have confirmation from EA, a demo of Pets or from an interview where a Guru/Producer mentions it. Remember, in the code of Ambitions, the SimBot was referred to as Frankensim and Frankenstein. This could be the same case with Unicorns. The Black Scorpion 10:42, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
yup, i found someone add the unicorn to the creature box too. i revert it because it not confirmed by ea and the info is only based on that package. Wir.wiryawan 11:41, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, there will not be unicorns. Haven't you notice that since you installed Town Stuff, when people are protesting they might hold a sign with an unicorn crossed out. Maxis probably tried to inform us this way that there won't be unicorns. I found this information on SimPrograms. TheNewMe 12:00, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
That doesn't make any sense. I think I've ever seen the protest with crossed out burglar or llama signs, but both things exist in the game. That's just someone's opinion, though I can't believe unicorn will exist... Nikel Talk 12:05, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
One picture, there's one more. TheNewMe 12:17, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, that was a mistake. The anti-unicorn protest signs were already in the game before both Town Life and the related patch were released.--The Black Scorpion 15:29, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
One may think the sign means "No Unicorn exists" lol. Nikel Talk 11:43, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Which Quote is Right?[edit source]

Which one is right for this EP? Live Life with Pets or Life is Better with Pets? Because I seem to hear the latter more often. Nikel Talk 08:08, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

On the official site the quote is, "Life Is Better With Pets".Official Sims 3 Pets Site--The Black Scorpion 10:43, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
Then why is it written Live Life with Pets below the art box? Nikel Talk 12:09, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
Because it hasn't been changed yet.--The Black Scorpion 13:02, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

New Idea: The Human Society?[edit source]

I wonder if EA is going to add something like the Humane Society, so when Sims don't take care of their pets someone from the Humane Society comes and takes away the pet.

You meant "Humane Society" not "Human Society". That and info added to DeltaBuild0.package in the Town Life patch, suggest that the Social Worker will also remove neglected pets.--The Black Scorpion 23:44, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

The Sims 3: Pets (PC) GamesCom Trailer[edit source]

The only version of this new trailer is in German, but here it is. I'm not sure how to add videos to articles now since that has been changed since the last time i added a video to an article. So if someone want to add this, cool. Also, this was released by EA Germany.The Black Scorpion 12:39, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

i add it Wir.wiryawan 13:41, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Unicorns and Jobs[edit source]

It's an interesting fact that unicorns are finally announced. The first "suspect" for unicorns is when I suggested it when we were talking about the new life state. Since then a countless number of users edited The Sims 3: Pets page, claiming that unicorns. Finally, we have a an announcement. It's also interesting to know that on The Sims 3: Pets article in wikipedia is also claimed that there will be unicorns, and possibly werewolves, which means possibly two life states. The next fact is that it's claimed that the new jobs will be a Vet and a Horseman (Horsewoman), though this unconfirmed. Also, there will be a new town (on wikipedia, it says it's gonna be Old Town (again)). If there are unicorns that's a horse's (pet's) life state so I think we should create a special article for it. Also, finally, don't you think if there are unicorns there will also be rainbows, pots of gold and elves? That would be cool! I would also like something like werewolves, but more elegant. El cobayatalk here 14:12, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

If those rumors are true that would be wonderful :D! But I don't trust Wikipedia much, and we still lack in sources for those statements. We could just wait for the official confirmation. Also, I don't know, but is Unicorn a life state? Aren't life states something Sims can be transformed into? A think we could rather consider Unicorn a wild pet. --Guilherme Guerreiro (talk here) 14:22, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
Unicorns will most likely be NPC Creatures, like Bigfoot was in The Sims 2: Bon Voyage.--The Black Scorpion 15:24, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
Im soo disappointed. i was so happy because i believed that werewolves will come back, but now when i found that they will be replaced by Unicorns... i hope that they will at least have some really special abilities. or that both werewolves and unicorns will be added.
Patko0770 22:10, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
@The Black Scorpion: Actually, Bigfoot is a normal Sim with "special" hairstyle, full-face make-up, and full-body clothes. It's not any other creatures. Nikel (Talk to me!) 03:32, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
actually it is NOT a Sim. The only way you can make a Sim look like bigfoot is with cheats, same thing with Witches, Vampires and other occults/creatures in The Sims 2. Also Bigfoot always has maxed out skills and other perks that a Sim does NOT. Thus it is a creature/occult.--The Black Scorpion 03:39, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
Indeed, they are occult, but they are based on Sims. I mean, the figures, hairstyles, skintones... from Sims. Unlike Unicorn, which is based on horse, not Sims. Nikel (Talk to me!) 03:50, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I wish they had centaur as a lifestate. That would be very great :(-- 11:36, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

According to this website, the new town has been named Appaloosa Plains.Just a Witch 15:41, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Requiring urgent split[edit source]

Since there are two games of The Sims 3 Pets and only one page for the two games I think this article is requiring urgent slipt. Is there anyone willing to make the split? Thank you. --RoseGui (talk here) 12:26, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean by split - The Sims 3 Pets (Console) or The Sims 3: Plus pets? El cobayatalk here 12:44, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
No, like i suggested before. The Sims 3: Pets and The Sims 3: Pets(Console) like that. It was done with The Sims 2: Pets and it needs to happen now. There is a ton of new info, pics and gameplay videos for both versions from GamesCom. The Split needs to happen NOW before the article gets too crowded and info about both versions gets mixed together, causing the article to need a cleanup. It will benefit everyone if the split happens soon.--The Black Scorpion 17:01, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
Yes. The Black Scorpion would you mind to perform the slipt? Thank you. ^_^ --RoseGui (talk here) 17:02, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
A month or so ago, the Mods/Admins said we should wait until release. If they agree that now is a good time to split it, one of them should do it.--The Black Scorpion 11:39, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, you can do the slit. Thank you ^_^. --RoseGui (talk here) 11:59, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
i will split the article now 1 by 1 rose. Wir.wiryawan 14:30, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
Thank you! --RoseGui (talk here) 14:48, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
So happy that the split has happened. Thanks for splitting it! w00t!--The Black Scorpion 23:36, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

New Confirmation[edit source]

I've been to wikipedia, and I can say certainly, that, some of the things that I'm gonna write are 99.99% true. And not just wikipedia, there are other sites too!

New Job: Vet

New Life State: Unicorn

New town: Appaloosa Plains

New deaths: Hit by car (for animals), attacked by a wild animal (Sims)

New trait(s): Fur Allergy, Animal Lover

I'm very confident that this is true because, not only does it say in the english article but also in the French, Serbian, Portuguesse and (probably many others since I don't understand many languages). I can also say that unicorn is 100% confirmed and that anyone is free to add any more confirmed info about it. I'll write more features if I found out more. Thanks! El cobayatalk here 20:26, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know how many more times we have to say this. Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source for info on unreleased games! It was confirmed at GamesCom that there are NO new deaths or careers in the Sims 3: Pets. The only new jobs are for cats and dogs in the Console versions of the game. The game is still in Alpha and none of the traits can be confirmed at this time, as some may be removed or renamed.--The Black Scorpion 21:30, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
I found this info on SimPrograms:
After the presentations of the Middle Ages and the Sims 3 Sims for Xbox Beestenbende we finally got the Sims 3 for PC Beestenbende to see. We started the presentation is the Create a Sim mode, or rather create a pet.[3] Starting with a horse we got to see all the editing capabilities, so can simple things like the coat, mane and tail of a horse be edited. The coat can be further edited, then can there are different layers of stripes and spots are added, these spots and streaks can again rotated and scaled, and even a map of the animal to be divided, so is every part of the animal to work.

Furthermore, the sliders you see in sims available for animals, these are only on certain parts of animals used, if there is a slider to the length of the neck to determine if a huge hand in creating belly.

[4] Than the last and perhaps most important part of Create a Pet. The Sims 3 Beestenbende it is possible to play as an animal, so animals are now properties, dogs, horses and cats up to 3 properties to animals, there are approximately 20 additional properties, but also some properties of sims now work on pets. There is also the possibility to edit voice, here you can not choose from 3 votes like sims but here you have a voice through the slider you can adjust.

After the create a pet was time for the neighborhood, Appaloosa Plains. This area is near to all animal fans, I personally think a combination of Plains Appaloosa Twinbrook (The Sims 3) and Riverview (The free downloadable neighborhood). This area is recreated every rabbit hole, no one seems to other neighborhoods. The center is more hill while you also have all the rural homes. The warehouse that you know of the criminal career of the Sims 3 is completely different in Appaloosa Plains.

In addition, a dog park Plains Appaloosa, a cat park, a horse ranch and a new rabbit hole for horse racing. If you are a horse racing performs you can tell at what time your horse and you can determine whether the horse to run faster or slower. The horse ranch, you can train your horse beautiful, so there are some jumps that you also can adjust.

Cats, dogs and horses can learn all sorts of skills including hunting, jumping and racing. Sims must teach myself how to ride horses, do they just own a horse to train, this is not to teach at a school or a book.

[5] For horses there are the stables, which you find yourself in a big barn building that you now have the option of large (2 floors) stall doors placing. In this small horse stables can also be the famous "Oh" do.

Dogs can also get and tricks to earn money, this is not a career but a fun way to make money. Dogs can also some less nice things like overturning of trash or swimming in pools, but all animals have the ability to drink from lakes and ponds. But dogs have some nice features so they can dig and find treasures, a sim to take home as a date for the owner.

The cats can not do tricks for money, alas, do have more social interactions with Sims. This allows you to play nice with a laser pointer. They can also hunt, hunt for ghosts like in the console version is possible.

As you Late Night vampires have the ambitions and the robots, you now also Beestenbende yet another creature, the Unicorn. This unicorn is in some way to get just anybody to tell us how. Also, this unicorn arson, teleport or bless people. The unicorn is also adding to the household. The unicorn can be edited as well in the demo we were shown: 1, was beautiful white unicorn with a star like you would know the other side was full of flames and is more of a rocker.

Furthermore, the game features a number of other animals that walk around like deer, raccoons, and different types according loins. Some of these animals can be kept in a cage or worn, they have a number of interactions, but can not be played.

[6] Cats, dogs and horses also have memories and a biography like most sims. They also have no desire life (ordinary or desire) and they just die of old age (which I do not quite understand but it's true). Toddlers also have certain interactions with animals, children not riding, but teenagers can do this.

At the end, this is certainly a nice addition to the game, especially because everything is very well developed and the animals also really like animals. Hopefully we will soon see more of these uitbreding. El cobayatalk here 09:57, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Just found this on SimsVip:

♦ Pets will include new theme music at start up.

♦ Music in Pets includes songs by Lenka Kripac & Asher Roth.

♦ The music from the Town Life trailer will be on the radio station in Pets.

♦ Horse Saddles are completely customizable.

♦ Dog & Cat collars are completely customizable.

♦ Sims cannot walk cats on a leash, but you can take them in the car with you and hold them.

♦ Playable Pets will be able to interact with non-playable Pets as well.

♦ The genetics system for Sims applies to Pets as well.

♦ Pets do have wishes.

♦ Only adult Pets can learn skills.

♦ Pets and Wild animals will be able to interact, however they will not create relationships.

♦ Wild Animals & other minor Pets will auto-spawn in other neighborhoods. (no spawner placing required) – Add this to the crazy memory system, and you have a computer explosion waiting to happen!

♦ Wild Animal spawning will not have a disable option – No animal spawn mod here I come!

♦ PitBulls, Great Danes, Chow Chows, Pugs & Pomeranians are confirmed as Pre-Set breeds

♦ Plastic Surgery will be included for Sims. El cobayatalk here 09:57, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Werewolf... pets is not fun without werewolf. I want werewolf! NOW! lol :p Wir.wiryawan 14:27, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
I once thought there would be werewolves... You surprised me Wir! You put it in wrong section. x_x Nikel Talk 08:34, September 24, 2011 (UTC)